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Yes, because at that point it was original. Remember they came out prior to this and basically helped start the cliches.

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You know that perfectly describes the TOS movies, right?

Fenriswolf posted...

In order from best to worst IMO

Jurassic Park
Jurassic World
Lost World
Jurassic Park 3
Fallen Kingdom
Dominion

Accurate.

She was underaged when they "met," so this shouldn't be surprising. It's been a poorly kept secret for years that Diddy is a groomer/creep.

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I always find this line of thinking funny. Hulk has never been a challenge to Thanos and they certainly weren't ever going to just have him beat Thanos down in the movies.

pikachupwnage posted...

No one left the ship. The worm may have been a form of life that does not require oxygen

Han and Chewie both left the ship. And they wore masks.

HornyLevel posted...

The Marvels was a sequel to a billion dollar movie. Nothing was going to save this. The interviews wouldn't have changed shit and the boxoffice followers even roughly calculated it would have added maybe $2-$4 million to the original $65-$80 million prediction.

FNAF was a critically panned movie that was released online and in theaters and still did almost double on a $30 million budget. It's at $250 now.

That's what we have to go on. There's no other tangible proof "chemistry" would have changed anything.

I disagree.

It's far more unrealistic that every planet only has one ecosystem.

Murphiroth posted...

Didn't they have to wear rebreathers while outside the ship in those scenes?

Yeah, they did.

HornyLevel posted...

It wouldn't have changed much. FNAF, which had bad reviews, over-performed and made almost double this in it's opening weekend ($80 million) just 2 weeks earlier. And it was simultaneously released on Peacock. I streamed it the day it came out.

If Dune 2 had not been delayed, The Marvels would have done even worse.

FNAF isn't the same film as the Marvels. Just because one thing happened doesn't make it true for everything.

lilORANG posted...

Weird how everyone turned on Taika after one bad movie lol. Ragnarok saved the Thor brand but I guess Love and Thunder was just too much.

Right. The "fans" are so fickle nowadays, its ridiculous.

HornyLevel posted...

Exactly, it's not that bad of a movie, which means superhero fatigue and a weak Phase 4 and 5 are very relevant here.

I'd add in the actors strike since the chemistry between the 3 leads is important to sell. J

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Even ignoring mental health struggles, there's some problems that money simply does not fix and having a lot of it may only make those problems worse.

Even ignoring the money aspect, it possible to love what you do (and your life in general) but still have some things you dislike.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

This topic is honestly wild.

The dude isnt even complaining hard. He just says I like the job, but some stuff is hard to deal with.

Which is said by anyone who does what they love as their profession. Yall lame and bitter for being so condescending to his complaints.

Its just so negative.

Pretty much. But it's also very "Internet."

Beyonce generally doesn't make direct political statements like that. She may address things in her music dbd videos but that's about it.

She also does a lot behind the scenes work/charity.

Wait. When was the second one born??

Not waiting in between births like this isn't healthy.

Tyranthraxus posted...

It was but then Disney said "no we don't want good Star Wars movies" so Zack Snyder filed off all the serial numbers and released it as an original property.

"Good movie" and Zack Snyder. Choose one.

dioxxys posted...

Yeah there were some ones that werent so great but now we dont get any good ones.

They keep trying to dump all these B list heroes on us

The MCU started with B list heroes. Why do people constantly forget or ignore that?

Corbenik posted...

Yes, but if thats too girly for then try The Originals.

Do not watch the Originals before watching the Vampire Diaries.

Kim_Seong-a posted...

I'd rather watch a genuinely bad movie over a decent chunk of MCU movies tbh. My issue with MCU's lesser outings is that they're just boring lol. At least with a bad movie I can have fun taking the piss.

If that's true then you should also be able to take the piss out of the bad MCU films. So I don't really buy this lol

No MCU film had actually been bad. "Bad" is something like "Cool As Ice."

The worst MCU movies have still been 7/10 in comparison with the average action/adventure film.

Phases 4 & 5 are only "bad" compared to Phase 3. Nothing in them have been as bad as Thor: TDW.

Irony posted...

You're correct she said white men

No, she never said that either. But keep being pathetic and lying, I guess?

Irony posted...

"This movie flopped therefore incels are the reason it flopped" - Brie Larson when A Wrinkle in Time flopped

She never said that and it's weird people like you have to lie to justify disliking her.

Calamity316 posted...

cuz thousands of incels have been saying how bad its going to be for months .

I don't think this is why. You're right in that reviews are actually pretty good but there's a few other factors as to why it's not doing well.

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Yeah, they could definitely improve the away missions a bit. But I like that we still get new content even after all this time. Kinda like DCUO.

SuperShake666 posted...

They reference No Way Home and Prowler exists in the MCU so I'd say yes.

Prowler doesn't exist in the MCU, though. Aaron does but that's not the same thing.

Vulture was in Morbius but do you really think Feige considers that part of the MCU?

He's right.

I still enjoy playing Star Trek Online and the Bridge Crew game on Oculus was pretty dope! It made me feel like I was really on a starship.

Zikten posted...

Kathleen i think is in charge of star wars. But I figured they meant what will the person running marvel do

Clearly. But if they don't know this then they probably shouldn't be in the conversation lol

boomgetchopped3 posted...

Kathleen, whats the game plan here?

Who is Kathleen??

Zikten posted...

My guess is both Steve and Tony are going to return

That's not happening anytime soon.

Blue_Popo posted...

Need to improve process too and not have to reshoot all the time

The vast majority of films have reshoots. It's very common.

VeggetaX posted...

I disagree.

You want Hallie Berry as Storm? Lane Cyclops and boring Rogue? Really?

McMarbles posted...

The part where the only other option will not only not give them what they want but will be actively harmful to them and pretty much everyone else.

While true, this is basically saying we shouldn't expect our politicians to do what we want them to. And that's not good at all. At some point, the whole "lesser of two evils" gets played out.

mach25687 posted...

I don't see this show being that mature, Think it going to be like Falcon and the Winter Soldier without the banter.

Did you watch the trailer?

Tyranthraxus posted...

Superman is known for lots of things, his strength isn't generally his biggest quality.

This is absolutely incorrect.

Ivynn posted...

I guess it's time to admit the Disney+ experiment was a failure. They greenlit too much, diluted the brand, and stretched themselves too thin. It doesn't help that the D+ shows were mid with only Wandavision and Loki being the critical standouts.

Not at all. Most of their shows are actually at the top in terms of streaming numbers. They just stumbled in subjective quality but that's an easy hurdle to overcome.

specialkid8 posted...

People have serious selective memory when it comes to the first three phase. Thanos had literally one actual scene in the entirety of the franchise leading up to Infinity War and a few name drops in GotG. Most of the stones were just macguffins until they were tied back in. There was no build up whatsoever of his threat beyond the occasional vague "something big is coming" lines. We already know more of who Kang is and what's coming from him from his two appearances than we did about Thanos before Infinity War.

Not to mention all the complaints about how Thanos "didn't do anything and just sat in a chair all the time." People now have forgotten that and apparently he was all over the place lol

Revelation34 posted...

Only if you never read a single comic.

Been collecting since the mid-80s, so yeah I know what I'm talking about.

JustaSandwich posted...

The thing with that is people didn't just magically get hyped for B and C-list characters out of nowhere. It was the unique formula of establishing a bunch of heroes in solo movies and then bringing them together (in a way that connected plot threads from the separate heroes' movies) that raised hype into the stratosphere.

Marvel can't maintain the hype without regular big crossover events. People aren't gonna drool over Shang Chi and Moon Knight just because they exist in the same universe as other heroes. They gotta actually cross over and have fun and meaningful interactions with other heroes.

Correct. As I said earlier, I get that Disney Plus needed content and I'm all for more comic stuff but they did it wrong. They should've linked the shows with the films better. For example, if you do WandaVision then have Dr. Strange 2 come out a few months later. Captain America 4 should be released within a year of the Falcon and Winter Soldier show. Werewolf by Night should've been paired with Blade. Limit it to 2-3 shows per year and 2 films that connect to 1 or 2 of the shows.

Of course, I admit this is all said in hindsight.

Punished_Blinx posted...

Disney was the company who released the outliers only a few years ago.

Stuff like them focusing on Disney+ is also a major reason why the landscape is different.

Yup. I understand they needed content but they planned it all wrong.

Punished_Blinx posted...

That's true to an extent.

But perhaps it is harder today to make a quality superhero movie that stands out since there has been so many. More of the same isn't enough anymore.

I'm sure that's part of it. And what you and I are discussing in another topic. Things are different now for a number of reasons. That's why Marvel Studios stepping back and saying they're going to make adjustments is a good thing.

Punished_Blinx posted...

I guess we'll see where it lands but not every movie is flopping this year. Disney has to figure out where this went wrong if they don't want this to be the new norm for them.

Of course they're outliers but still far less successes than previous years and ticket sales are down overall. The landscape is different now.

VFalcone posted...

My overall point was that people aren't going to buy tickets to see a movie about characters they don't know or care about even if it gets 98% Rotten Tomatoes, so the movies fail automatically.

And my point is the entire history of films proves you wrong. Nobody knew who Neo, Luke Skywalker, John. McClain and hundreds of others were prior to seeing their movies. Now they are household names. Recognition matters far less than quality.

VFalcone posted...

DC is a special case though because their movies were just straight bad. Their goodwill was burned after their third movie lol. DCEU had Man of Steel and Wonder Woman that both did well. Then BvS came out, then JL... and it was a wrap. DCEU died before it could start because the movies were too bad and the public won't forgive that.

You're proving my point. Having A listers are irrelevant if your movie is bad. Just like having unknown characters doesn't matter if the movie is good. Quality is the main factor, not character awareness.

Punished_Blinx posted...

Considering Captain Marvel was a billion dollar movie and Ms Marvel was one of the more popular comic book heroes without a movie if this does flop it's pretty undeniable that Marvel Studios fucked up here right? At least it's the most direct example.

Not necessarily considering the stars can't really promote this. And Iman Vellani's personality would probably go a long way to selling audiences on seeing it. There's also a few other considerations like the fact people simply aren't going to the movies the same way they did pre-pandemic. Sales are down all around.