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Jakyl25 posted...

I know the sample size is very small, but I feel like this is the 3rd biggest "Champion of one company shows up on another show without permission" ever, after Madusa and Mike Awesome.

Still ahead of Haku!

uhhh...Ric Flair?

Or did he have permission to steal the NWA Title <_<?

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Chronic1000 posted...

In somewhat wrestling related news: Sycho Sid's son, Frank Eudy, is going to be part of Big Brother this year.



Sorry eddv, but he's not going to be a pro wrestler. Maybe.

His other son Gunner is wrestling on the indies as Lord Humongous though!

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Jakyl25 posted...

I know the sample size is very small, but I feel like this is the 3rd biggest "Champion of one company shows up on another show without permission" ever, after Madusa and Mike Awesome.

Still ahead of Haku!

uhhh...Ric Flair?

Or did he have permission to steal the NWA Title <_<?

He wasn't actually the recognized NWA Champ when he showed up, was he?

I thought he was officially no longer champ due to his contract expiring, he was just unbeaten and still in possession of the physical title.

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In that case, there's no chance of there being an epic tag team, then!

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I really do hope they keep thewhole final 8 plus whichever of Rubix and Scorpio Sky loses in the opener.

Thatd be a hell of a division!

Johnny Yuma can go home though. Definitely the wrong RockNES Monster.

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I feel like a douche for complaining when TNA is doing so well, but there are a lot better workers out there than some of the guys they got. Props for Kenny King, Jigsaw and some others but boo to Johnny Yuma, Kid Kash, Dakota Darsow etc.

If Aries really had some pull in picking guys, where are the DGUSA? Akira Tozawa, Ricochet, Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi, PAC, Jack Evans, AR Fox, Chuck Taylor, Johnny Gargano, Low Ki, YAMATO, Hallowicked, Frightmare, Ophidian etc.

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A lot of those guys wouldn't leave dragon gate, especially the Japanese ones, though tozawa would be my go to.

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Low Ki don't wanna be there, at least not full-time. He took those two bookings last year but only because those were his only obligations and included a PPV payday.

I'm not saying Aries has pull with TNA. I'm saying Aries has pull with Kenny King.

TNA says "Hey Kenny King we hear you're a free agent, wanna come work with us?"
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Kenny: "You're right! Bye ROH!"
*Cornette Face*

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If they grabbed all the bigger names/more popular guys, each would be less important as a result. If you grab only a select few (and then have guys like Darsow as tryout job guys), it makes getting Kenny King and Jigsaw huge news.

Edit: Not factoring in guys who wouldn't want to be full-time TNA guys.

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If Aries really had some pull in picking guys, where are the DGUSA? Akira Tozawa, Ricochet, Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi, PAC, Jack Evans, AR Fox, Chuck Taylor, Johnny Gargano, Low Ki, YAMATO, Hallowicked, Frightmare, Ophidian etc.

Maybe they can do another World X-Cup.

TimJab almost begging for TNA to purge DGUSA and CHIKARA and leave them in shambles.

Is he on the ROH payroll!?

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And yeah, they only have 2 hours a week.

You can't sign 20 guys at once and promise them all TV time.

The X-Division in its current state needs like 5 or 6 legitimate title challengers and some job guys and that's pretty much it.

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I'm not saying sign all those guys I listed, I'm saying sign one of them instead of Johnny Yuma.

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But let's say Yuma's not really "signed" and he's just here to job on Impact and job on the PPV and skedaddle.

In that event I really don't think it matters if it's Johnny Yuma or Chuck Taylor.

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In that case, Chuck Taylor puts on two infinitely more entertaining matches.

Can you imagine Chuck Taylor being let loose in Universal Studios? God help us if he wanders over to Disneyworld.

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And as far as some of those guys go, it makes more sense from a business standpoint to only bring in one masked guy.

Make Rubix stand out!

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And yeah, it's like War said -- doing it this way makes Kenny King look like a star because he dominates the discussion.

Really we only mark for Rubix because we're CHIKARA marks. TNA is intending for this tournament to be all about Kenny King and Rashad Cameron.

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Jakyl25 posted...

And yeah, it's like War said -- doing it this way makes Kenny King look like a star because he dominates the discussion.

Really we only mark for Rubix because we're CHIKARA marks. TNA is intending for this tournament to be all about Kenny King and Rashad Cameron.

Itd be pretty funny if after all of this Williams or Ion walks out of Destination X as champion.

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Hey, Jigsaw could be a black guy under that mask for all we know.

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I wonder if any eagle eyed casual viewers noticed that Rashad Cameron showed up on Smackdown a week earlier with a different name and got squashed by Ryback.

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Also yeah I LOVE Ophidian way too much for who he is, but Jigsaw/Rubix is in every way the right call here.

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From: Jakyl25 | #371

Hey, Jigsaw could be a black guy under that mask for all we know.

given that he unmasked in roh, i can say with confidence that he is not!

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TimJab posted...

I wonder if any eagle eyed casual viewers noticed that Rashad Cameron showed up on Smackdown a week earlier with a different name and got squashed by Ryback.

I did not, in fact notice that.

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Jakyl25 posted...

And yeah, it's like War said -- doing it this way makes Kenny King look like a star because he dominates the discussion.

Really we only mark for Rubix because we're CHIKARA marks. TNA is intending for this tournament to be all about Kenny King and Rashad Cameron.

Itd be pretty funny if after all of this Williams or Ion walks out of Destination X as champion.

It really is kind of strange that they've spent ZERO time even establishing the 3 guys already on the roster who got automatic spots in the tournament as threats.

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Jakyl25 posted...

From: TheCapisBack | #370
Jakyl25 posted...

And yeah, it's like War said -- doing it this way makes Kenny King look like a star because he dominates the discussion.

Really we only mark for Rubix because we're CHIKARA marks. TNA is intending for this tournament to be all about Kenny King and Rashad Cameron.

Itd be pretty funny if after all of this Williams or Ion walks out of Destination X as champion.

It really is kind of strange that they've spent ZERO time even establishing the 3 guys already on the roster who got automatic spots in the tournament as threats.

Well one of them, maybe Ion to go along with his "guy who injures people" gimmick, is going to MURDER that guy whos name i cant remember that beat Darsow, which should do the trick.

King/Cameron/TNA Guy/ ????

I dont know about who the 4th guy in the match will be. It'd need to be a face though. .... maybe it IS Rubix!

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Well one of them, maybe Ion to go along with his "guy who injures people" gimmick, is going to MURDER that guy whos name i cant remember that beat Darsow, which should do the trick.

Flip Cassanova. A battle to see who legitimately cripples the other guy first!

Doug Williams would be the best worker to put in as the fourth guy, but "best worker" isn't necessarily what you're looking for in an Ultimate X match.

EDIT: I'm gonna guess Sonjay is the fourth guy.

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Opening video package for Destination X has gone up.

The Aries/Roode portion is great.

Aries: "This is MY TIME."

Roode: "This is MY WORLD."

Hype.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Opening video package for Destination X has gone up.

The Aries/Roode portion is great.

Aries: "This is MY TIME."

Roode: "This is MY WORLD."

Hype.

Man I dont think ive ever been this legitimately hyped for a payperview.

Ive been more hyped for individual matches, like Punk/Cena last year, but for a top to bottom PPV, this has gotta be it.

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Also yeah I forgot about Dutt.

Cameron/King/Dutt/Ion or Williams?

Thatd be a pretty insane match. The reason I was thinking Rubix was because if someone wins that opener and then wins the other qualifier thats a pretty substantial underdog push for the Ultimate X match.

But the smart money is your way.

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From: Jakyl25 | #379

Aries: "This is MY TIME."

Roode: "This is MY WORLD."

Hype.

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It'll be a good PPV I'm sure, but I can't see Aries winning the title right now so that's killing it for me. It really feels like they're building up the BFG series as the way that Roode's dominance will (or at least CAN) end, so title matches before that kinda feel like, well of course he won't lose the title. Aries will make a good show of it but it's most likely just a way to cement Roode's run even further so it's that much more epic when the BFG series winner finally takes him down.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I feel.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Opening video package for Destination X has gone up.

The Aries/Roode portion is great.

Aries: "This is MY TIME."

Roode: "This is MY WORLD."

Hype.

Man I dont think ive ever been this legitimately hyped for a payperview.

Ive been more hyped for individual matches, like Punk/Cena last year, but for a top to bottom PPV, this has gotta be it.

Wrestlemania X-SEVEN?

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It'll be a good PPV I'm sure, but I can't see Aries winning the title right now so that's killing it for me. It really feels like they're building up the BFG series as the way that Roode's dominance will (or at least CAN) end, so title matches before that kinda feel like, well of course he won't lose the title. Aries will make a good show of it but it's most likely just a way to cement Roode's run even further so it's that much more epic when the BFG series winner finally takes him down.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I feel.

That's basically how I feel about it. I just hope Aries is booked to look great in defeat, I suppose.

The match itself should be great though.

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What's important is that they're making this MATCH important. Even if (when) Roode retains, it'll feel like he really accomplished something awesome. And Aries will no doubt look great in defeat.

It's not just a reign-buffer like that mini-feud with RVD

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Jakyl25 posted...

What's important is that they're making this MATCH important. Even if (when) Roode retains, it'll feel like he really accomplished something awesome. And Aries will no doubt look great in defeat.

It's not just a reign-buffer like that mini-feud with RVD

This is the really important part. In this era of one month feuds, Roode/Aries is actually making it work and feel huge.

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Destination X provides a real final exam for card placement.

The last chance four-way HAS to be the opener.

Roode vs. Aries HAS to be the main event.

Ultimate X HAS to be the second-to-last match

How do you most effectively place the other 6 matches in between?

Gut instinct says that in the interest of fairness the four Ultimate X qualifiers should be matches 2-5, but then you just ran 5 X-Division matches in a row.

And then what comes before Ultimate X? Again, gut instinct says Daniels vs. Styles since that's a "bigger" match than Joe vs. Angle, but it'll be a very emotional match. You don't want to drain the crowd right before making a new star.

It's a tough task to maximize the crowd response on this one!

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Jakyl25 posted...

Destination X provides a real final exam for card placement.

The last chance four-way HAS to be the opener.

Roode vs. Aries HAS to be the main event.

Ultimate X HAS to be the second-to-last match

How do you most effectively place the other 6 matches in between?

Gut instinct says that in the interest of fairness the four Ultimate X qualifiers should be matches 2-5, but then you just ran 5 X-Division matches in a row.

And then what comes before Ultimate X? Again, gut instinct says Daniels vs. Styles since that's a "bigger" match than Joe vs. Angle, but it'll be a very emotional match. You don't want to drain the crowd right before making a new star.

It's a tough task to maximize the crowd response on this one!

Last Chance 4-way
Angle/Joe
X-Division Qualifiers
Daniels/Styles
Ultimate X
Aries/Roode

Is the most logical, but

Last Chance 4-way
Angle/Joe
3 X-Division Qualifiers
Daniels/Styles
X-Division Championship Winner Qualifier
Ultimate X
Aries/Roode

does the best job of putting over the Ultimate X winner huge while giving a slight rest between Daniels/Styles and the X-Division Title match.

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Daniels/Styles
2 X-Division Qualifiers
Ultimate X
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The downside is it doesnt feel "fair" to have the guy who wins the final qualifier immediately fight again. But if you make it a likable face, like I guess Kenny King or the winner of the Last Chance 4way it can work.

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It's a tough card because the only "break" matches are the X-Division Qualifiers, but since they're qualifying for a match later in the card you can't just toss them in like normal break matches.

It also seems kind of challenging to book the winner of the Last Chance 4-way into the Ultimate X itself, because that would put him in THREE matches in one night. It will depend what the 4-way and the winner's qualifier are like, they could be quick and not at all demanding. But I would not normally want to see someone who had already wrestled TWICE that night get put into a match as potentially dangerous as an Ultimate X, especially considering everyone else in it has already wrestled once themselves.

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One thing to consider:

The Ultimate X structure takes some time to assemble.

That could be the suitable buffer between Styles/Daniels and Ultimate X.

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MrGreenonion posted...

It's a tough card because the only "break" matches are the X-Division Qualifiers, but since they're qualifying for a match later in the card you can't just toss them in like normal break matches.

It also seems kind of challenging to book the winner of the Last Chance 4-way into the Ultimate X itself, because that would put him in THREE matches in one night. It will depend what the 4-way and the winner's qualifier are like, they could be quick and not at all demanding. But I would not normally want to see someone who had already wrestled TWICE that night get put into a match as potentially dangerous as an Ultimate X, especially considering everyone else in it has already wrestled once themselves.

I hadnt considered that. Maybe they SHOULDNT put Zema Ion in this match...

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Too bad they're not bringing back the six-sided ring like last year.

I much prefer the normal ring, but it's a great change of pace if it's just done once annually.

EDIT: But yeah then you'd have Zema Ion working 2 matches a night up on top of wires in a ring he's unfamiliar with... :-(

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Jakyl25 posted...

Too bad they're not bringing back the six-sided ring like last year.

I much prefer the normal ring, but it's a great change of pace if it's just done once annually.

EDIT: But yeah then you'd have Zema Ion working 2 matches a night up on top of wires in a ring he's unfamiliar with... :-(

Poor guy. I hope one of these days he makes us all eat our words and becomes incredible.

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Something I hadn't considered:

Devon could still defend his TV title unannounced if they REALLY felt they needed some filler.

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Vs. Robbie E!

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Here's a preview for a shoot interview with Kenny King and Rhett Titus shot 2 months ago about the state of ROH:



Highspots is rushing this to the market given current events.

Hell though, even this 3 minute preview is awesome.


This is a bad f***ing week for Ring of Honor.

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