Board 8 > Chrono Cross Mafia Topic 1 - Good Morning, Serge!

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whatisurnameplz posted...

So do you think Corrik is scum then?

He likely would have to be unless he's just trying to mess with ulti's head.

So I would put my vote on Corrik.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Shadow_Goer16 posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

1) Nothing suggests Dragoons as mafia team.

My role PM does. I'm the daughter of the Dragoon general.

Ben are you mafia? Just tell us plz. Thx.

I have no idea about any of this flavor for the game so I'm going off on what you guys said. But I don't exactly like to Lynch off of flavor, or use that as a specific point seeing as I was once lynched over flavor. >__>

Nope, I am not mafia. But i would have loved to be on your team. So who are your buddies hm? Is Mzero one?

But Shadow, Koopa-troopas are bad guys. So you're a bad guy~

Don't lie. Lying is bad. Scumface.

Hate you. Bye.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Given how many times you've typed "Miller" this game, shouldn't you be aware of that?

Scrap this. Misread.

Who has Mercs Mafia archived?

I dont, but I'll help search if you find the archive. I think this is very important stuff goin on right now
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What are the chances of 3rd party fool being in the game? One the Miller claims could be 3rd party probably
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VeryInsane posted...

Ooh, cool tag (and I'm sorry for having to bring this upMI but)

Ulti, remember when MI was going to put you on ignore and you called him cowardly? What makes this acceptable compared to that?

Corrik, remember when you PMed me threatenening to leave my game if MI was allowed to keep Ulti on ignore l? Why is Ulti allowed to have you on ignore?

He isn't. It is clearly against the rules and he needs to replace out.

I have already acknowledged this.

I mean, he does not have me on ignore and is just saying it, but I don't care to discuss it more so.
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Shadow_Goer16 posted...

What are the chances of 3rd party fool being in the game? One the Miller claims could be 3rd party probably

There's a Chrono Cross character that looks just like a jester (Harle), but I've never played any b8 game with a Jester/Fool, so if Harle's in this game I'd doubt she'd be one.
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VeryInsane posted...

Ooh, cool tag (and I'm sorry for having to bring this upMI but)

Ulti, remember when MI was going to put you on ignore and you called him cowardly? What makes this acceptable compared to that?

Corrik, remember when you PMed me threatenening to leave my game if MI was allowed to keep Ulti on ignore l? Why is Ulti allowed to have you on ignore?

He isn't. It is clearly against the rules and he needs to replace out.

I have already acknowledged this.

I mean, he does not have me on ignore and is just saying it, but I don't care to discuss it more so.benjamin3740 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Corrik posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Not really

You are brash, proud, and a bit of a dick (no offense). Being nice is pandering, a la a pretty solid scumtell from you

One scum down.

Keep playing solitaire, amigo!

Oddity posted...

I caught up. Not really willing to sort out the 3 miller claims right now. I have to go to work like 5 mins ago. I kind of want to lynch VI for trying to make this a Corrik/Ulti day.

##Vote: VeryInsane

That's not the direction I want, it's the direction that is going to have to be in order for Town to actually win.

You see, I don't know if you know this, but teamwork and communication are extremely integral to the game of mafia. Ulti has stated that he is unwilling to communicate with Corrik. They have both claimed roles (Miller) that are essentially guaranteed to not be shot for the next few game days. So tell me, what happens to Town players that don't communicate? I'll give you a hint: Chrono Trigger Mafia Town failed to communicate. Mercs 4 Town failed to communicate.

That's right, they lose. And quite frankly, I am tired of seeing Town lose. I actually want to win this game, with as little sideshow distractions as possible. And if there are players who are unwilling to work together, then they can go die in a fire.

So I don't care if you think I am big bad scum because I am trying to wedge Corrik/Ulti. In my town eyes, it is honestly the only logical way to win this game because if they are Town they will cost this game. The only way I will accept otherwise is if someone else blatantly claims scum.

That stuff makes some sense and all, but at the end of the day I'd rather all votes be directed towards the person believed to be scum. I came into this game knowing Ulti and Corrik were gonna go at it. So if one or both of them rolled town, I see it as my job to keep them alive. That said, they really should improve on their communication with each other,

As for what I think of them, I still see Ulti's counterclaim as pretty genuine. Corrik I'm 100% sure is lying about his. He's definitely lying about "Posting before reading he game"(He's tried that one a few times before). Either Mafia or trying to bait scum. The fact he jumped on VI right away makes me think he's baiting to see who goes for him first. Or it could just be him trying to look "not nice", after VI called him nice. Corrik is one of the hardest people for me to read. *thinks about epic fail in FCC mafia*

The same people who claimed I fake claimed Cop when I claimed it and had to be 100% lying and were WRONG will not sit here and repeat the same thing ad nauseum again. Never learn.
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MZero11 posted...

I don't think Ulti is scum because countering me as scum makes little sense. I doubt people will let him live after I flip miller (since a lot of people want to policy lynch him anyway!) so from a scum perspective it doesn't really make sense. Compare to how Scare countered Ben last game. He just acted like there could be two millers. So it looks like Town who got a little too excited.

He could be going 1 for 1 here but like why me? I'm not that good >_> and I'm basically just a vanilla power-wise

Countering Miller as SCUM is a GOOD move. It creates a WIFOM situation in which the first miller claim despite being more likely to be true is effectively a lynch shield the entire game while also providing reason to scan guilty and to never be shot.
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whatisurnameplz posted...

Shadow_Goer16 posted...

What are the chances of 3rd party fool being in the game? One the Miller claims could be 3rd party probably

There's a Chrono Cross character that looks just like a jester (Harle), but I've never played any b8 game with a Jester/Fool, so if Harle's in this game I'd doubt she'd be one.

That's because the role is softbanned.

Corrik, so you are confiming that you are Miller still, correct?
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Sceptilesolar posted...

whatisurnameplz posted...

Shadow_Goer16 posted...

What are the chances of 3rd party fool being in the game? One the Miller claims could be 3rd party probably

There's a Chrono Cross character that looks just like a jester (Harle), but I've never played any b8 game with a Jester/Fool, so if Harle's in this game I'd doubt she'd be one.

That's because the role is softbanned.

Oh okay. Never mind then.

Well I think one of the 3 miller's should be lynched. Definitely.
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Corrik posted...

MZero11 posted...

I don't think Ulti is scum because countering me as scum makes little sense. I doubt people will let him live after I flip miller (since a lot of people want to policy lynch him anyway!) so from a scum perspective it doesn't really make sense. Compare to how Scare countered Ben last game. He just acted like there could be two millers. So it looks like Town who got a little too excited.

He could be going 1 for 1 here but like why me? I'm not that good >_> and I'm basically just a vanilla power-wise

Countering Miller as SCUM is a GOOD move. It creates a WIFOM situation in which the first miller claim despite being more likely to be true is effectively a lynch shield the entire game while also providing reason to scan guilty and to never be shot.

So your claim would also be a good move if you're scum, yes?
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Shadow_Goer16 posted...

What are the chances of 3rd party fool being in the game? One the Miller claims could be 3rd party probably

3rd party fool/miller...? I somehow doubt it. I don't think bastard games without prior warning are particularly common.
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Shadow_Goer16 posted...

whatisurnameplz posted...

Shadow what do you think about Corrik's claim? Do you think that's genuine?

He also claimed miller, correct?

Nah. I don't think he is. I could only see that happening if Mzero and ulti were both mafia claiming and counter claiming to get someone to slide through the game with no issues.

Which I guess could be plausible, but probably unlikely

Been many games with multiple millers, and has been many games in which Scum has claimed Miller early. And has been games where Scum has counter claimed Miller.


I remember a game famously that Ulti hosted Called Wrestling Mafia. Where I first post claimed Town Miller as Scum. Chris counterclaimed Town Miller as Town Something else. DYL Counterclaimed Town Miller as Town Miller like 12 hours later.

I was so adamant about my claim and that Chris was lying that Chris blinked and admitted he fakeclaimed Town Miller. Which made my fake claim as Town Miller as scum look great.



The fact remains though, any Miller claim could be fake. But, if you have a clever person as the countering Miller claim, it is more likely they counterclaimed to look Town and to create a lynch shield.
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whatisurnameplz posted...

Corrik posted...

MZero11 posted...

I don't think Ulti is scum because countering me as scum makes little sense. I doubt people will let him live after I flip miller (since a lot of people want to policy lynch him anyway!) so from a scum perspective it doesn't really make sense. Compare to how Scare countered Ben last game. He just acted like there could be two millers. So it looks like Town who got a little too excited.

He could be going 1 for 1 here but like why me? I'm not that good >_> and I'm basically just a vanilla power-wise

Countering Miller as SCUM is a GOOD move. It creates a WIFOM situation in which the first miller claim despite being more likely to be true is effectively a lynch shield the entire game while also providing reason to scan guilty and to never be shot.

So your claim would also be a good move if you're scum, yes?

Yeah you're going the same way I was about to go here. Corrik also seems like he has motivation to fakeclaim miller as scum by the same logic that Ulti does. Moreso, really, because he can try to push for two mislynches before suspicion falls upon him.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

whatisurnameplz posted...

Shadow_Goer16 posted...

What are the chances of 3rd party fool being in the game? One the Miller claims could be 3rd party probably

There's a Chrono Cross character that looks just like a jester (Harle), but I've never played any b8 game with a Jester/Fool, so if Harle's in this game I'd doubt she'd be one.

That's because the role is softbanned.

Corrik, so you are confiming that you are Miller still, correct?

I am Town Miller yes. I am not convinced any of the 3 millers have to be scum, but I would think Ulti's claim is the most suspect of the three.
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I would be incredibly surprised if Corrik were miller here.

Corrik I don't know what your motives are when you say you once fakeclaimed miller. And given how effective of a strat you said it is, it's making me wonder if you'd do it again.
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Corrik posted...

Shadow_Goer16 posted...

whatisurnameplz posted...

Shadow what do you think about Corrik's claim? Do you think that's genuine?

He also claimed miller, correct?

Nah. I don't think he is. I could only see that happening if Mzero and ulti were both mafia claiming and counter claiming to get someone to slide through the game with no issues.

Which I guess could be plausible, but probably unlikely

Been many games with multiple millers, and has been many games in which Scum has claimed Miller early. And has been games where Scum has counter claimed Miller.


I remember a game famously that Ulti hosted Called Wrestling Mafia. Where I first post claimed Town Miller as Scum. Chris counterclaimed Town Miller as Town Something else. DYL Counterclaimed Town Miller as Town Miller like 12 hours later.

I was so adamant about my claim and that Chris was lying that Chris blinked and admitted he fakeclaimed Town Miller. Which made my fake claim as Town Miller as scum look great.



The fact remains though, any Miller claim could be fake. But, if you have a clever person as the countering Miller claim, it is more likely they counterclaimed to look Town and to create a lynch shield.

Wow! Never have played a game with more than one miller. That's crazy! 0_0
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whatisurnameplz posted...

Corrik posted...

MZero11 posted...

I don't think Ulti is scum because countering me as scum makes little sense. I doubt people will let him live after I flip miller (since a lot of people want to policy lynch him anyway!) so from a scum perspective it doesn't really make sense. Compare to how Scare countered Ben last game. He just acted like there could be two millers. So it looks like Town who got a little too excited.

He could be going 1 for 1 here but like why me? I'm not that good >_> and I'm basically just a vanilla power-wise

Countering Miller as SCUM is a GOOD move. It creates a WIFOM situation in which the first miller claim despite being more likely to be true is effectively a lynch shield the entire game while also providing reason to scan guilty and to never be shot.

So your claim would also be a good move if you're scum, yes?

Second counterclaim in my mind is tricky.

As scum, it is not the brightest idea but could work I suppose. A third miller tries to show the game that more than 1 miller setup is probably likely and Miller's = Vanillas. (Which right now has no Vanillas claimed). So, scum claiming it there could pass off as Town but at the expense of possibly making two Town look good before him.

Secondly, a third claim into Miller starts to look opportunistic on the other hand. Especially, just because it is the latest one and people will assume you saw the others before claiming it. This is how DYL got lynched as Town Miller being the third claim of Miller in Wrestling Mafia.

Depends how you look at it. Lots of drawbacks to scum claiming the third miller though.
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Corrik i didnt expect you to actually be serious about Miller

Its not as much about the fact that I cant accept more than one miller being in the game - it's that I think your whole "I just read up and there's already TWO miller claims???" is a lie o__o It really comes off that way to me, and you've done it before
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I'd really like to hear MZero's thoughts on what Corrik just said.
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Leafeon13N posted...

I would be incredibly surprised if Corrik were miller here.

Same.

I've seen Corrik truthfully claim twice:

Arrow mafia where he was dayvig and immediately shot the SK, though he claimed three shots not one.

Buffy Mafia where he claimed Buffy.
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I clicked on the last post of the topic to enter it and immediately posted I was Miller. Then went back and read. I always try to do that way of entering topics so I do not miss a STOP accidentally.
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whatisurnameplz posted...

Corrik I don't know what your motives are when you say you once fakeclaimed miller. And given how effective of a strat you said it is, it's making me wonder if you'd do it again.

I've fakexlaimed Miller before as town power in an attempt to not be the N1 kill (didn't work).

I've fakeclaimed Miller as scum in a first post claim and just crossed fingers there was no other miller.

I've claimed Miller truthfully and gotten lynched for it.

Fuck, in Skyrim mafia I was the only Vanilla in a game of only Millers.

I see no reason there can't be two. I think it's inherently null

Biggest issue I have with mZero is he calls his a "miller claim" which doesn't make sense if he's town. Seems like a scumslip he's blaming on husband phone.
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Didn't know you had a husband, Mzero
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Nanahara715 posted...

whatisurnameplz posted...

Corrik I don't know what your motives are when you say you once fakeclaimed miller. And given how effective of a strat you said it is, it's making me wonder if you'd do it again.

I've fakexlaimed Miller before as town power in an attempt to not be the N1 kill (didn't work).

I've fakeclaimed Miller as scum in a first post claim and just crossed fingers there was no other miller.

I've claimed Miller truthfully and gotten lynched for it.

Fuck, in Skyrim mafia I was the only Vanilla in a game of only Millers.

I see no reason there can't be two. I think it's inherently null

Biggest issue I have with mZero is he calls his a "miller claim" which doesn't make sense if he's town. Seems like a scumslip he's blaming on husband phone.

Husband phone claim
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Corrik posted...

I clicked on the last post of the topic to enter it and immediately posted I was Miller. Then went back and read. I always try to do that way of entering topics so I do not miss a STOP accidentally.

How much time was there between your miller claim and reaction post? You read the whole topic before your reaction post?
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benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik posted...

I clicked on the last post of the topic to enter it and immediately posted I was Miller. Then went back and read. I always try to do that way of entering topics so I do not miss a STOP accidentally.

How much time was there between your miller claim and reaction post? You read the whole topic before your reaction post?

I read page 1 in 2 minutes yes. Sounds about right.
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Nanahara715 posted...

f***, in Skyrim mafia I was the only Vanilla in a game of only Millers.

Really? Didn't realize it could happen that often. Still, I'm skeptical of three millers because of how harder of a job they make for the cop. I'd hope the game would be more balanced.
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And that's the difference between autocorrect and autocomplete.

My phone autocorrects "his phone" to "husband phone", it didn't autocomplete and insert words like "his phone" to "his sexy manhood phone" like MZero would be claiming his phone did.
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whatisurnameplz posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

f***, in Skyrim mafia I was the only Vanilla in a game of only Millers.

Really? Didn't realize it could happen that often. Still, I'm skeptical of three millers because of how harder of a job they make for the cop. I'd hope the game would be more balanced.

Maybe there is no cop. I don't like silly setups like that but it's not unheard of.
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whatisurnameplz posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

f***, in Skyrim mafia I was the only Vanilla in a game of only Millers.

Really? Didn't realize it could happen that often. Still, I'm skeptical of three millers because of how harder of a job they make for the cop. I'd hope the game would be more balanced.

There's an implied assumption in your post that there is a cop.

As was mentioned up front, MZero could be mimicking Scare, who made the assumption there was no cop by a lack of Godfather. If MZero is mimicking this, he's assuming there's no cop.

There doesn't have to be a cop
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Was MZero right in that assumption?
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Excuse me, I meant to say Scare in that one game.
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Hey, can I point out something? Lolo has been on GameFaqs within the last five minutes yet has not posted in the topic since that initial non-post.
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Could be mimicking Reg in FF7 too

(Eaedwards gave some suggested roles to scum team. One being Dyne, Miller. Reg claimed that and was counter claimed oops. Still lasted like five days!)
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I'm no stranger to weird games either, I remember playing a game with no mafia, and instead there was a cult.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

Hey, can I point out something? Lolo has been on GameFaqs within the last five minutes yet has not posted in the topic since that initial non-post.

Hm

I remember reading some archives in the past and Lolo was a notorious lurker as scum, fwiw
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VeryInsane posted...

Could be mimicking Reg in FF7 too

(Eaedwards gave some suggested roles to scum team. One being Dyne, Miller. Reg claimed that and was counter claimed oops. Still lasted like five days!)

Stuff like that is why I think one of these millers has to be scum.
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whatisurnameplz posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Could be mimicking Reg in FF7 too

(Eaedwards gave some suggested roles to scum team. One being Dyne, Miller. Reg claimed that and was counter claimed oops. Still lasted like five days!)

Stuff like that is why I think one of these millers has to be scum.

I don't want to predicate a Miller lynch on 'one of them has to be scum'. Let's say two of them are town and one is scum. Well, our odds of picking out the right one are not really much better than picking a random player from the whole game to lynch. If someone has a good argument as to why one of them is scum without relying on the 'well they can't all be town' argument, that's fine. I would accept a MZero lynch at this point of the three.
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Shadow, was there any reason you voted Sceptile?
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I think that was the same thing IGCD did, just voting at the beginning of the game to generate discussion. Though based on shadow's posts in the topic I'm surprised he hasn't changed it.
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Shadow do you think scept is scum?
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benjamin3740 posted...

Shadow, was there any reason you voted Sceptile?

whatisurnameplz posted...

Shadow do you think scept is scum?

To both of you

His initial posts gave a bad vibe from me. For no particular reason, so basically I wanted to do a reaction test even though most people don't exactly fall for that anymore. XD

But yeah, that's why. Still not 100% sure on him being town though, obviously
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whatisurnameplz posted...

I think that was the same thing IGCD did, just voting at the beginning of the game to generate discussion. Though based on shadow's posts in the topic I'm surprised he hasn't changed it.

I unvoted.

I voted after seeing posts though. IGCD just voted to vote
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Thx for the clarifying, sometimes it's hard to keep track of votes.
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VeryInsane posted...

Actually that's probably as good as it's gonn get huh

Oh well!

Scratch that question and instead


WHAT DO YOU THINK OF

Corrik
Oddity
pjbasis
IGCD?
Terra?

Wow you've upgraded from four to five? :O

Corrik is fakeclaiming as always. Null tell
Nothing much on Oddity, pjbasis or IGCD because they haven't really gotten going yet.
Terra I like as town because he made some good arguments on whatisurnameplz who I also think is scum
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Honestly nameplz seems like a trap lynch to me but I honestly haven't looked much at him yet
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Nanahara715 posted...

And that's the difference between autocorrect and autocomplete.

My phone autocorrects "his phone" to "husband phone", it didn't autocomplete and insert words like "his phone" to "his sexy manhood phone" like MZero would be claiming his phone did.

I'm not going to keep arguing freaking phone meta of all things but when I'm on my phone I type like "mil" and miller pops up in suggestions, I tap it and then it gives a suggestion for the next word and I probably tapped it twice on accident and didn't notice.
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VeryInsane posted...

Honestly nameplz seems like a trap lynch to me but I honestly haven't looked much at him yet

Probably.