Board 8 > Chrono Cross Mafia Topic 2 - Where Angels Lose Their Way...

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I am tired maybe I should nap before deadline
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benjamin3740: Kind of wary of Ben since he hasn't been all out Ben. Usually he's pretty "loud". But he hasn't been as loud as I've seen in the last few games.

Corrik: Still think I would Lynch him over the lynches that have been going back and forth.

IGCD: no idea what to think of him, more on the scummy side.

Lolo_Guru: I don't really remember any posts >_> mainly because I've never played with you. So neutral right now.

MZero11: kind of neutral still. I still think he seemed more on the side of town.

Nana: seems pretty good like trying to get information from people. Leaning town.

Oddity: people wanna lynch you...someone refresh me on why? Literally the posts are jumbled together.

pjbasis: not sure what to think

red13n: not sure what to think

Sceptilesolar: not leaning either way for me.

Sheep007: no idea. Need to reread posts

Terra-enforcer: seems generally like trying to help town win, so leaning town for now

UltimaterializerX: likely town. Him counter claiming as scum doesn't make much sense to me

VeryInsane: Same as Nana.

whatisurnameplz: gonna have to go read other posts.

Buuut with that said, my vote will likely stay on Corrik because currently feel like he's most likely to be mafia. Anyone have any reasons why he wouldn't be?
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Man what have I started
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tag
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VeryInsane posted...

Man what have I started

Nothing. I decided to make a list since I haven't been too active ^_^;;
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ScareChan is replacing Lolo. Day still ends at 10PM EST.
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HELL yeah Scare.
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I'm not huge on this Oddity lynch merely because his activity lines up a bit with recent play from him.

Trying to digest pj's outburst

So Oddity is in that role where the entire game is calling him scum. I feel like most people in "that spot" flip scum.
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Leafeon13N posted...

I'm not huge on this Oddity lynch merely because his activity lines up a bit with recent play from him.

Trying to digest pj's outburst

I could get behind lynching red, too. He seems way off.
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Leafeon13N posted...

I'm not huge on this Oddity lynch merely because his activity lines up a bit with recent play from him.

Trying to digest pj's outburst

For me it's less to do with activity and more to do with inconsistency

Like calling two users scum and then voting on a third with "oh yeah let's lynch the inactives!" Then when called out for it switches to Nana
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##Dayvig: Ulti


...I heard it was the thing to do
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You are way off, Ulti. (every statement from you on my scumplay has been wrong btw,)

Anyways thats fake of course, and I am heading out right now so bad timing on the replace, but I will try and read as much as I can before day ends (which is like 5 hours?) I'll start in about an hour
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UItimaterializer posted...

So Oddity is in that role where the entire game is calling him scum. I feel like most people in "that spot" flip scum.

I am very much sware of this though and it is often true.

Its possible, moreso, a big part of me is less interested in taking king usu active b8ers off the table as i can read them later.

Also Scare the thing to do was actually to claim miller.

Was liking Terra until he got defensive against VI, as if VI was THE TOWN PLAYER MAYOR MCCHEESE and was worried everyone will follow him. Still like him better than some others.

T2P202 from Shadow is blah. Either lazy town or scum trying to look active. Some half assed "leaning town" without really saying anyone looks scummy.

Says "likes the Corrik lynch the best of the options" but doesn't say why. I think the lynch options most commonly being thrown around are Corrik, MZero, PJ, Ulti, and Oddity, and he calls town on Ulti and MZero, clueless on Ofdity and PJ, and no other comparison. It's a post to post. If you don't have thoughts on players (like Red, sheep, pj), why even include them in the post at all?

Makes me feel better about an Oddity lynch.
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Are leafeon and Sceptile the same person?
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Nana didn't you know

I am the TOWN PLAYER MAYOR MCCHEESE

Also leafeon is red
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Terra-enforcer posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Honestly the only one I feel pretty confident on scum I Oddity. I feel really confident on my Town list though (Shadow is iffy but I lean Town on her)

Just don't remember anything you've posted which is usually a bad sign

wat

That doesn't make much sense. I've posted quite a bit. Especially in my first wall of text. Not much has happened since then, and even then I've posted a substantial bit. I really don't care if you think I'm scum as long as you have a reason to believe it, but to say that I haven't posted much actually makes no sense.

Do you not feel the same way about Sheep? Or what about IGCD being more quiet than usual?

This screams "but why meeeeeeee, and not themmmmmmmm" that scum often like to do. Especially because its not even like there is a lot of pressure on Terra.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Was liking Terra until he got defensive against VI, as if VI was THE TOWN PLAYER MAYOR MCCHEESE and was worried everyone will follow him. Still like him better than some others.

T2P202 from Shadow is blah. Either lazy town or scum trying to look active. Some half assed "leaning town" without really saying anyone looks scummy.

Says "likes the Corrik lynch the best of the options" but doesn't say why. I think the lynch options most commonly being thrown around are Corrik, MZero, PJ, Ulti, and Oddity, and he calls town on Ulti and MZero, clueless on Ofdity and PJ, and no other comparison. It's a post to post. If you don't have thoughts on players (like Red, sheep, pj), why even include them in the post at all?

Makes me feel better about an Oddity lynch.

Already posted why I'd Lynch Corrik in the first topic.

A lot of people I'm neutral on seeing as it's day 1 and no one really stood out as scum to me with the exception of Corrik.

I don't believe the Miller claim and a few of his posts didn't look good to me, but I'd have to go find them again.
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Shadow_Goer16 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Was liking Terra until he got defensive against VI, as if VI was THE TOWN PLAYER MAYOR MCCHEESE and was worried everyone will follow him. Still like him better than some others.

T2P202 from Shadow is blah. Either lazy town or scum trying to look active. Some half assed "leaning town" without really saying anyone looks scummy.

Says "likes the Corrik lynch the best of the options" but doesn't say why. I think the lynch options most commonly being thrown around are Corrik, MZero, PJ, Ulti, and Oddity, and he calls town on Ulti and MZero, clueless on Ofdity and PJ, and no other comparison. It's a post to post. If you don't have thoughts on players (like Red, sheep, pj), why even include them in the post at all?

Makes me feel better about an Oddity lynch.

Already posted why I'd Lynch Corrik in the first topic.

A lot of people I'm neutral on seeing as it's day 1 and no one really stood out as scum to me with the exception of Corrik.

I don't believe the Miller claim and a few of his posts didn't look good to me, but I'd have to go find them again.

Didn't you say you'd never played with Corrik before? Nobody in this game believes his miller claim.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Shadow_Goer16 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Was liking Terra until he got defensive against VI, as if VI was THE TOWN PLAYER MAYOR MCCHEESE and was worried everyone will follow him. Still like him better than some others.

T2P202 from Shadow is blah. Either lazy town or scum trying to look active. Some half assed "leaning town" without really saying anyone looks scummy.

Says "likes the Corrik lynch the best of the options" but doesn't say why. I think the lynch options most commonly being thrown around are Corrik, MZero, PJ, Ulti, and Oddity, and he calls town on Ulti and MZero, clueless on Ofdity and PJ, and no other comparison. It's a post to post. If you don't have thoughts on players (like Red, sheep, pj), why even include them in the post at all?

Makes me feel better about an Oddity lynch.

Already posted why I'd Lynch Corrik in the first topic.

A lot of people I'm neutral on seeing as it's day 1 and no one really stood out as scum to me with the exception of Corrik.

I don't believe the Miller claim and a few of his posts didn't look good to me, but I'd have to go find them again.

Didn't you say you'd never played with Corrik before? Nobody in this game believes his miller claim.

I did say that, yes. Never said people believed, I just said he'd be the one I'd Lynch today. Lol
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Nanahara715 posted...

Was liking Terra until he got defensive against VI, as if VI was THE TOWN PLAYER MAYOR MCCHEESE and was worried everyone will follow him. Still like him better than some others.

T2P202 from Shadow is blah. Either lazy town or scum trying to look active. Some half assed "leaning town" without really saying anyone looks scummy.

Says "likes the Corrik lynch the best of the options" but doesn't say why. I think the lynch options most commonly being thrown around are Corrik, MZero, PJ, Ulti, and Oddity, and he calls town on Ulti and MZero, clueless on Ofdity and PJ, and no other comparison. It's a post to post. If you don't have thoughts on players (like Red, sheep, pj), why even include them in the post at all?

Makes me feel better about an Oddity lynch.

I disagree about post 202 because, although I'd rather have more detailed analysis on fewer players, it's nice to know what one player is thinking about everyone. Can help show contradictions later on too. Also, wouldn't it be better for Scum to attempt to target those who aren't their teammates, rather than feign indifference to them all? Now, about this post. That last sentence really rubs me the wrong way... Why specifically Oddity? It seems like you're trying to reinforce a point which is almost completely unaffected by the post in question.
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Sheep007 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Was liking Terra until he got defensive against VI, as if VI was THE TOWN PLAYER MAYOR MCCHEESE and was worried everyone will follow him. Still like him better than some others.

T2P202 from Shadow is blah. Either lazy town or scum trying to look active. Some half assed "leaning town" without really saying anyone looks scummy.

Says "likes the Corrik lynch the best of the options" but doesn't say why. I think the lynch options most commonly being thrown around are Corrik, MZero, PJ, Ulti, and Oddity, and he calls town on Ulti and MZero, clueless on Ofdity and PJ, and no other comparison. It's a post to post. If you don't have thoughts on players (like Red, sheep, pj), why even include them in the post at all?

Makes me feel better about an Oddity lynch.

I disagree about post 202 because, although I'd rather have more detailed analysis on fewer players, it's nice to know what one player is thinking about everyone. Can help show contradictions later on too. Also, wouldn't it be better for Scum to attempt to target those who aren't their teammates, rather than feign indifference to them all? Now, about this post. That last sentence really rubs me the wrong way... Why specifically Oddity? It seems like you're trying to reinforce a point which is almost completely unaffected by the post in question.

I don't like Shadows post. It seems scummy to me. Based on Oddity's "scum list" and later decisions, I postulated that Shadow was scum with Oddity.
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Shadow_Goer16 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Shadow_Goer16 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Was liking Terra until he got defensive against VI, as if VI was THE TOWN PLAYER MAYOR MCCHEESE and was worried everyone will follow him. Still like him better than some others.

T2P202 from Shadow is blah. Either lazy town or scum trying to look active. Some half assed "leaning town" without really saying anyone looks scummy.

Says "likes the Corrik lynch the best of the options" but doesn't say why. I think the lynch options most commonly being thrown around are Corrik, MZero, PJ, Ulti, and Oddity, and he calls town on Ulti and MZero, clueless on Ofdity and PJ, and no other comparison. It's a post to post. If you don't have thoughts on players (like Red, sheep, pj), why even include them in the post at all?

Makes me feel better about an Oddity lynch.

Already posted why I'd Lynch Corrik in the first topic.

A lot of people I'm neutral on seeing as it's day 1 and no one really stood out as scum to me with the exception of Corrik.

I don't believe the Miller claim and a few of his posts didn't look good to me, but I'd have to go find them again.

Didn't you say you'd never played with Corrik before? Nobody in this game believes his miller claim.

I did say that, yes. Never said people believed, I just said he'd be the one I'd Lynch today. Lol

So, you're voting him because you don't believe his miller claim [that no one believes is true because Corrik consistently lies about his role as both town and scum and thus is a null tell, despite people telling you this] and for other posts [that you can't remember or even summarize here, so really you don't even know why you're voting him].

Not a fan
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@nana day 1 sucks. No one knows for sure about anything. So you're gonna let Corrik slide by because he fake claims as town or mafia? That's kinda silly.

If anything he should be the first Lynch since he's either scum or just trolling town because that doesn't help us either way.
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Thats not necessarily trolling. Its literally just a fake claim that everyone knows is fake.

If you go the antitown route you go pj who intentionally offers nothing.

And dont get me wrong, Corrik can get awfully trolly but the claim is definitely the least of that.

Has slept claimed because I'm only 2 pages in and want him dead
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Leafeon13N posted...

Also Scare the thing to do was actually to claim miller.

I see this now and am sad since it would have been amazing
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ScareChan posted...

Has slept claimed because I'm only 2 pages in and want him dead

No. I tried to pressure him but Shadow wussed out on the vote she had on him so I voted someone else.
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Shadow_Goer16 posted...

@nana day 1 sucks. No one knows for sure about anything. So you're gonna let Corrik slide by because he fake claims as town or mafia? That's kinda silly.

If anything he should be the first Lynch since he's either scum or just trolling town because that doesn't help us either way.

Day 1 is awesome and it bothers me that people want to use "oh it's Day 1 so why bother", like how anti town is that mentality. "Its day 1 so let me not bother and let scum control The lynch let's spot them and extra kill" FFS
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Poor random Nana
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

Has slept claimed because I'm only 2 pages in and want him dead

No. I tried to pressure him but Shadow wussed out on the vote she had on him so I voted someone else.

Sweet
##vote: scept

Also vi is town
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ScareChan posted...

Also vi is town

I would be surprised if this were not true.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Honestly the only one I feel pretty confident on scum I Oddity. I feel really confident on my Town list though (Shadow is iffy but I lean Town on her)

Just don't remember anything you've posted which is usually a bad sign

wat

That doesn't make much sense. I've posted quite a bit. Especially in my first wall of text. Not much has happened since then, and even then I've posted a substantial bit. I really don't care if you think I'm scum as long as you have a reason to believe it, but to say that I haven't posted much actually makes no sense.

Do you not feel the same way about Sheep? Or what about IGCD being more quiet than usual?

Dont really like this though. Do you think Sheep and IGCD are scum or are you just jelly VI likes them?

I'm questioning his line of logic. Slightly leaning scum on IGCD, no read on sheep
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ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

Has slept claimed because I'm only 2 pages in and want him dead

No. I tried to pressure him but Shadow wussed out on the vote she had on him so I voted someone else.

Sweet
##vote: scept

Also vi is town

Well with someone that can throw their weight around, I'll help pressure scept again.

##Unvote
##Vote:Scept

I brought a bigger tooth this time @Sceptilesolar
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Terra-enforcer posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Honestly the only one I feel pretty confident on scum I Oddity. I feel really confident on my Town list though (Shadow is iffy but I lean Town on her)

Just don't remember anything you've posted which is usually a bad sign

wat

That doesn't make much sense. I've posted quite a bit. Especially in my first wall of text. Not much has happened since then, and even then I've posted a substantial bit. I really don't care if you think I'm scum as long as you have a reason to believe it, but to say that I haven't posted much actually makes no sense.

Do you not feel the same way about Sheep? Or what about IGCD being more quiet than usual?

Dont really like this though. Do you think Sheep and IGCD are scum or are you just jelly VI likes them?

I'm questioning his line of logic. Slightly leaning scum on IGCD, no read on sheep

Who's logic and what logic?
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Nanahara715 posted...

Was liking Terra until he got defensive against VI, as if VI was THE TOWN PLAYER MAYOR MCCHEESE and was worried everyone will follow him. Still like him better than some others.

T2P202 from Shadow is blah. Either lazy town or scum trying to look active. Some half assed "leaning town" without really saying anyone looks scummy.

Says "likes the Corrik lynch the best of the options" but doesn't say why. I think the lynch options most commonly being thrown around are Corrik, MZero, PJ, Ulti, and Oddity, and he calls town on Ulti and MZero, clueless on Ofdity and PJ, and no other comparison. It's a post to post. If you don't have thoughts on players (like Red, sheep, pj), why even include them in the post at all?

Makes me feel better about an Oddity lynch.

As I said in that post, I don't care if he has a read on me with reasoning, but he said I wasn't doing much when I was one of the most active posters at the time. Comes across as incredibly contradictory and I only posed the other two as counterexamples to his logic as there are several others with much less of a "presence" than me who he didn't peg as scum.

And no, nothing at all implied that I thought that people would play follow the leader with VI. He hasn't done much, and I don't recall any game where that has happened with him specifically, so I have no reason at all to fear that happening.
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Why do you think Scept is scum? I've been reading him as Town so far
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Honestly the only one I feel pretty confident on scum I Oddity. I feel really confident on my Town list though (Shadow is iffy but I lean Town on her)

Just don't remember anything you've posted which is usually a bad sign

wat

That doesn't make much sense. I've posted quite a bit. Especially in my first wall of text. Not much has happened since then, and even then I've posted a substantial bit. I really don't care if you think I'm scum as long as you have a reason to believe it, but to say that I haven't posted much actually makes no sense.

Do you not feel the same way about Sheep? Or what about IGCD being more quiet than usual?

Dont really like this though. Do you think Sheep and IGCD are scum or are you just jelly VI likes them?

I'm questioning his line of logic. Slightly leaning scum on IGCD, no read on sheep

Who's logic and what logic?

VI in stating that my lack of presence was indicative of scum behavior. Came across as contradictory in many ways, and I felt it was a very weak reason for calling someone scum. I don't see why VI gets a pass after people called out whatsurname for his equally poor logic.
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Ouch, no read from everyone. That cuts deep man...

Seriously though, I know I've done a bad job so far today. Haven't really got into it and I don't have any real scumreads. My current pick would be PJ for uselessness but I really need to get my arse into gear because even after rereading I don't get much aside from vague gut feelings that God is Scum, and that's mostly due to activity and how little he's trying to take control which is barely applicable as I've not played with him for ages and this is a completely different scenario to the other game in terms of activity and other players...

*ahem*
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Hey Terra if you told me what you've done so far today maybe I'll change my mind
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##vote: pj

I will bite down this road for now. Part of me is also mildly curious who would follow.

Votals
[3] Oddity - Ben, Nana, VI
[3] sceptile - Shadow, (IGCD), Scare, IGCD
[2] MZero - Ulti, (whatisurnameplz), Sceptile
[2] PJ - (nana), whatisurnameplz, Red
[1] whatisurnameplz - (MZero), Terra, (IGCD),
[1] VI - (IGCD),Corrik, (Oddity)
[1] Corrik - Shadow
[1] Ulti - MZero
[1] Nana - Oddity
[0] Lolo - (Sceptile), (Oddity)



Day Ends in 4 Hours it takes 9 to lynch.
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Corrik, Oddity, Terra, and IGCD all have been going after VI today at some point. For reasons I dont really get either (the best argument against VI is from corrik I guess) VI's list earlier is probably not off the mark at all
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Oh Shadow is on Sceptile and Corrik

I thought she unvoted Scept?
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VeryInsane posted...

Hey Terra if you told me what you've done so far today maybe I'll change my mind

My goal this game isn't to convince you specifically I'm town, it's to press people and support the town. As I said before, I have no problem with you thinking that I'm scum as long as your suspicions are at least substantiated by viable reasoning, but your reasoning came across as weak and contradictory, hence I called you out on it.
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VeryInsane posted...

Oh I'm not denying that you've posted. I just looked at the playerlist and had trouble thinking of what you've done. Just not too memorable I guess or I'm just insane

Again, I'm saying that you posted but I couldn't think of anything you did which set warning signs and thus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7-51DeTRRQ
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