Board 8 > Chrono Cross Mafia Topic 2 - Where Angels Lose Their Way...

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eaedwards6400
05/09/17 11:27:05 PM
#1:


Votals
[2] VI - (IGCD),Corrik, Oddity
[2] whatisurnameplz - MZero, Terra, IGCD,
[2] PJ - nana, whatisurnameplz
[1] MZero - Ulti, (whatisurnameplz)
[1] Lulu - Sceptile
[1] Oddity - Ben
[1] Corrik - Shadow
[0] sceptile - Shadow, (IGCD)

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eaedwards6400
05/09/17 11:28:32 PM
#2:


Votals are as of 430 in topic 1.
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Oddity
05/09/17 11:32:50 PM
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I'm going to go through the player list and post standout thoughts.

1.benjamin3740 - I had circumstances with you last game that gave me townread vibes from a mile away, bro. Not sure you're so cut and dry this game but I can't recall disliking anything you've posted (even your vote of me, completely justified).
4.Lolo_Guru - massive lurkage. Want to kill so hard.
6.Nanahara715 - People are saying nanahara is super towny but I didn't really like his attack on pj saying basically 'you read the whole topic in 6 minutes?' I timed myself and came in at 2 minutes and a half before I got to the third miller claim. Super easy. Leaning scum.
8.pjbasis - super inactive but post 207 I read towny as hell. He'd have to do something drastic for me to pick him for a day 1 lynch.

9.red13n - slight town lean
11.Shadow_Goer16 - slight scum lean, called out inactives and then didn't vote them.
13.Terra-enforcer - slight scum lean. Post 106 breadcrumbs his character and he strikes me as a savvy player. More likely scum than not.
15.VeryInsane - still trying to decide what I think of his reaction to my vote. Him suspecting me isn't surprising but.... slight town lean I guess.

Most likely scum: Nana and Shadow

Fair warning, my reads are based off of behavior and small towntells for the most part. So you might not necessarily agree with me.

As for the whole Ulti/Corrik/Mzero mess. I would really have to reread their stuff to make any sense of it and I'm just too tired. Townlean on Ulti and Corrik is just flat out lying methinx.

I'm sorry this is all I have up to this point but I'm super rl busy for this particular 48 hours :(

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Let's kill the inactive with fire people! CHOO CHOO!

And yes, I'm aware of the irony :P
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Nanahara715
05/09/17 11:35:37 PM
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Oddity posted...
I'm going to go through the player list and post standout thoughts.

1.benjamin3740 - I had circumstances with you last game that gave me townread vibes from a mile away, bro. Not sure you're so cut and dry this game but I can't recall disliking anything you've posted (even your vote of me, completely justified).
4.Lolo_Guru - massive lurkage. Want to kill so hard.
6.Nanahara715 - People are saying nanahara is super towny but I didn't really like his attack on pj saying basically 'you read the whole topic in 6 minutes?' I timed myself and came in at 2 minutes and a half before I got to the third miller claim. Super easy. Leaning scum.
8.pjbasis - super inactive but post 207 I read towny as hell. He'd have to do something drastic for me to pick him for a day 1 lynch.

9.red13n - slight town lean
11.Shadow_Goer16 - slight scum lean, called out inactives and then didn't vote them.
13.Terra-enforcer - slight scum lean. Post 106 breadcrumbs his character and he strikes me as a savvy player. More likely scum than not.
15.VeryInsane - still trying to decide what I think of his reaction to my vote. Him suspecting me isn't surprising but.... slight town lean I guess.

Most likely scum: Nana and Shadow

Fair warning, my reads are based off of behavior and small towntells for the most part. So you might not necessarily agree with me.

As for the whole Ulti/Corrik/Mzero mess. I would really have to reread their stuff to make any sense of it and I'm just too tired. Townlean on Ulti and Corrik is just flat out lying methinx.

I'm sorry this is all I have up to this point but I'm super rl busy for this particular 48 hours :(

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Let's kill the inactive with fire people! CHOO CHOO!

And yes, I'm aware of the irony :P


Terrible.

1) List.

2) Names two top scum players, votes for neither.

3) Post 207 from PJ is literally just "eh two millers probably ok" - I don't see how that read so town. This reads like he wanted to just insert that in there for some reason.

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Corrik
05/09/17 11:37:50 PM
#5:


Reeks of someone just posting to post without really any substance. Coukd be because he is just busy.
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Leafeon13N
05/09/17 11:37:58 PM
#6:


I am mildly concerned at Oddity leaning town on me cause i haven't done much of anything yet.
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Oddity
05/09/17 11:38:24 PM
#7:


Frankly, my reads are not that strong, which is why I'm content to root out inactives. I told you my reads are based off small towntells, that post shows an inquisitive tone that I don't think scum pj would have.
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Nanahara715
05/09/17 11:38:29 PM
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Like, literally called out Shadow for calling people scum and not voting for them, immediately turns around and does the same thing
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Leafeon13N
05/09/17 11:38:57 PM
#9:


Also sorry VI you couldn't summon me because I am at work. Still am, just on break for a short bit.
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Oddity
05/09/17 11:39:13 PM
#10:


Red: correct analysis of Ulti/Corrik based off modbold.
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Nanahara715
05/09/17 11:39:16 PM
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Oddity posted...
Frankly, my reads are not that strong, which is why I'm content to root out inactives. I told you my reads are based off small towntells, that post shows an inquisitive tone that I don't think scum pj would have.


Describe the last game you played with PJ.
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Corrik
05/09/17 11:40:06 PM
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Corrik posted...
whatisurnameplz posted...
I didn't get that much sleep last night so I'm gonna go to bed now. Right now corrik is looking more and more scummy to me. I really don't understand why he's so adamant in VI by scum. I don't like how IGCD just posts one liners and votes while doing nothing substantial, like he's afraid he might say something that'll make him look scummy. Glad that Oddity is catching up. Shadow and VI both seem pretty town to me at the moment, probably the only ones I can definitely say that about. Ulti's looking less and less town after everyone's been pointing out his bad comments. I'll be back tomorrow, hopefully they more inactive people will be able to discuss then. Good night.

This almost reads like newbie scum who is upset someone thinks his teammate is scum.

Like, he seems very worried I think Vi is scum. Even moreso than the fact that I said he is scummy also. This comment is almost indefensible.

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Oddity
05/09/17 11:40:55 PM
#13:


It was CT and I just played it. He was scum and he was inactive, but I never thought to myself that he had quite that inquisitive tone. Could be easily be wrong, but that's my read of him for now.
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Oddity
05/09/17 11:41:53 PM
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Also additionally, I don't expect scumred to be that helpful (the modbold thing), he likes to lurk.
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Oddity
05/09/17 11:45:15 PM
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Which is why I said it was ironic.
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Nanahara715
05/09/17 11:45:25 PM
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Post 207 with PJ and his "inquisitive tone."

pjbasis posted...
MZero barely blinked at Ulti's counter. Almost too oddly, but very hard to make a case from that. I'll say it's more likely that they're both true.



Someone explain because I don't see it.
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Leafeon13N
05/09/17 11:45:28 PM
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Oddity posted...
Also additionally, I don't expect scumred to be that helpful (the modbold thing), he likes to lurk.


Ehh i can tell you I'd make that exact post as scum. As scum i have a tendency to substitute reads with meta far too often.
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VeryInsane
05/09/17 11:47:46 PM
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Oddity posted...
Which is why I said it was ironic.


So why

Also why the 180
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Oddity
05/09/17 11:48:51 PM
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180? Basically I was rushed this morning so I wanted to put my vote to use. Decided to point out something and vote you and see how you reacted.
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VeryInsane
05/09/17 11:49:02 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Also sorry VI you couldn't summon me because I am at work. Still am, just on break for a short bit.


I kinda figured when I posted that, as you are Cali.

But honestly was just kinda bored of flavor/host meta and wanted fun
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VeryInsane
05/09/17 11:50:40 PM
#23:


Oddity posted...
180? Basically I was rushed this morning so I wanted to put my vote to use. Decided to point out something and vote you and see how you reacted.


It wasn't that good of a case!

What did you think of Ulti ignoring Corrik?
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Oddity
05/09/17 11:52:21 PM
#24:


My case or your reaction? Ulti ignoring Corrik is Ulti being Ulti. He gets super pissed at stuff I consider petty.
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Nanahara715
05/09/17 11:52:36 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
MZero with a countervote so laughable that it makes his scumclaim even more obvious.

Glenn is not a fucking "Town Miller". Sorry, but he's not. Given FF7 mafia, flavor meta, and how much I know eaed gives busted roles to important characters in a story, that claim is a complete lie and MZero behavior since I called him out on it hasn't helped much. It's like he voted me because he's "expected" to, not because he actually thinks I'm scum.


Am I missing something? He hasn't countervoted you?
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Leafeon13N
05/09/17 11:54:52 PM
#26:


So what do you think about things that aren't the miller claim Ulti?
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VeryInsane
05/09/17 11:54:56 PM
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My reaction was basically detailing why that would have to be the road we would head towards if host didn't intervene.
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MZero11
05/09/17 11:55:27 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
MZero with a countervote so laughable that it makes his scumclaim even more obvious.

Glenn is not a fucking "Town Miller". Sorry, but he's not. Given FF7 mafia, flavor meta, and how much I know eaed gives busted roles to important characters in a story, that claim is a complete lie and MZero behavior since I called him out on it hasn't helped much. It's like he voted me because he's "expected" to, not because he actually thinks I'm scum.


Except I didn't even counter-vote you right away. I'm not evening voting you for claiming miller either, I'm voting you for doing nothing else and coasting, and calling yourself host confirmed
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Corrik
05/09/17 11:55:27 PM
#29:


I like how I point out a clear scum post and people ignore it. Ok. Done caring about this game. See you day 2.
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MZero11
05/09/17 11:55:53 PM
#30:


Nanahara715 posted...
Am I missing something? He hasn't countervoted you?


At the end of topic 1
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VeryInsane
05/09/17 11:55:57 PM
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Ulti stop playing Hearthstone and answer red's question, buddy
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Oddity
05/09/17 11:56:55 PM
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TBQH I can't remember the specifics reaction right now (even though I just read it, so tired) but you have in general been coming off like you did last game where I wanted to lynch you even though you were town. So I guess I might be mixing your reaction to my vote with just your general behavior.
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Oddity
05/09/17 11:58:06 PM
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Oh well, going to bed.
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MZero11
05/10/17 12:02:35 AM
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Ulti is 100% scum. You're welcome
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benjamin3740
05/10/17 12:05:28 AM
#38:


Mzero, which looks worse. Ulti or whatisurnamesolongfordammit
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benjamin3740
05/10/17 12:06:24 AM
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That was a question btw.

Add these

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eaedwards6400
05/10/17 12:06:27 AM
#41:


Votals
[2] whatisurnameplz - (MZero), Terra, IGCD,
[2] Lolo - Sceptile, Odditt
[2] Oddity - Ben, Lolo
[1] MZero - Ulti, (whatisurnameplz)
[1] VI - (IGCD),Corrik, (Oddity)
[1] PJ - (nana), whatisurnameplz
[1] Corrik - Shadow
[1] Ulti - MZero
[0] sceptile - Shadow, (IGCD)

Day ends Wednesday 10PM EST it takes 9 to lynch.

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benjamin3740
05/10/17 12:07:12 AM
#42:


UltimaterializerX posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Mzero, which looks worse. Ulti or whatisurnamesolongfordammit

nameplz by virtue of not being host confirmed town. What kind of question is this?

I'm asking Mzero because he's called you both confirmed scum and I havent heard his opinion on the other guy in ahwile and just wondering when he made the jump to you
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VeryInsane
05/10/17 12:07:50 AM
#43:


Pretty sure Oddity unvoted me and went to Lolo and Nana switched to Oddity

Unless you are being picky with the :
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IfGodCouldDie
05/10/17 12:07:56 AM
#44:


Corrik posted...
I like how I point out a clear scum post and people ignore it. Ok. Done caring about this game. See you day 2.

I cared.
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eaedwards6400
05/10/17 12:08:55 AM
#45:


VeryInsane posted...
Pretty sure Oddity unvoted me and went to Lolo and Nana switched to Oddity

Unless you are being picky with the :


No just being sleepy and should probably ignore the game. Fixed
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IfGodCouldDie
05/10/17 12:10:58 AM
#46:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I think IGCD is town (generally if he looks like utter trash, he's town)

So you think I look like a better player when I am scum?
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MZero11
05/10/17 1:13:44 AM
#47:


benjamin3740 posted...
Mzero, which looks worse. Ulti or whatisurnamesolongfordammit


I swear I replied to this already but I don't see my post anywhere O_O

Ulti looks worse because nameplz has at least poked around and tried to look around at other options and contribute in other ways. Ulti has done literally nothing other than try to ride his "counter" claim on me, which makes me think he came into today planning to do that. Remember how I hounded Death in the last game? Scum hates to let go of a mislynch when it looks attainable, but nameplz jumped off me pretty easy but Ulti refuses to look any other direction (even though he should know 2 millers isn't unheard of)

Furthermore, claiming "host confirmed" is awful
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VeryInsane
05/10/17 1:14:44 AM
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Anybody else worth talking about MZero
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MZero11
05/10/17 1:15:14 AM
#49:


benjamin3740 posted...
I'm asking Mzero because he's called you both confirmed scum and I havent heard his opinion on the other guy in ahwile and just wondering when he made the jump to you


I never called nameplz confirmed scum, and as for Ulti I was just mocking him for saying "Corrik is 100% scum. You're welcome" 138 times in Mercs 4 mafia >_> (Corrik was town btw) I'm not actually saying Ulti is confirmed scum
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MZero11
05/10/17 1:19:15 AM
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VeryInsane posted...
Anybody else worth talking about MZero


Problem is Ulti created nice diversion with his counter-claim so scum can lay low today. Lolo Guru is especially concerning because he posted on page 1 and hasn't been seen since

Other than that, I made a case on nameplz being opportunistic and following Ulti so willingly. Pjbasis should contribute more when he's around, didn't really add much. Same with Terra
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