Poll of the Day > Accidental shooting in US middle school.

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Dynalo
02/02/18 3:43:55 AM
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/los-angeles-school-shooting-1.4514437

tl;dr: 12 year old girl had a gun in her backpack, dropped it, and it went off apparently injuring 5 people, including one kid who was shot in the head.
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FatalAccident
02/02/18 4:00:59 AM
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lol america

12 year olds carrying guns

yep normal
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Cacciato
02/02/18 4:07:15 AM
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How the fuck did one round injure 5 people
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bulbinking
02/02/18 4:08:08 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
lol america

12 year olds carrying guns

yep normal


Its in L.A. so probably one of those you g dreamers we want so badly in our country.

That or a tiny gangbanger (they start them young)

Thre is no way a semiauto hndgun accidentally goes off enough to injure that many people.

Not only that, but ill bet the community would do anything to cover this up with the current political climate.
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Cacciato
02/02/18 4:09:23 AM
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Do you mean 'young'? And 'handgun'? If you're going to be critical, at least come off as intelligent, bulbin. But I know you've been here long enough to not care.
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Yellow
02/02/18 4:09:55 AM
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Cacciato posted...
How the fuck did one round injure 5 people

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LinkPizza
02/02/18 4:19:10 AM
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Yellow posted...
Cacciato posted...
How the fuck did one round injure 5 people

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aHappySacka
02/02/18 4:23:47 AM
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I thought US schools have metal detectors.
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bulbinking
02/02/18 4:25:43 AM
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Cacciato posted...
Do you mean 'young'? And 'handgun'? If you're going to be critical, at least come off as intelligent, bulbin. But I know you've been here long enough to not care.


Aww you missed my Thre error too.

Guess that means we are both idiots ;)

Yellow posted...
Cacciato posted...
How the fuck did one round injure 5 people


Because it didnt.

Look at pictures of the people who go there. They have reasons to not let the story get out.

Heck they have random searches and semi weekly lockdowns.

Public schools in LA are like low security prisons and the students made them that way.
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HelIWithoutSin
02/02/18 4:26:43 AM
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3 of the injuries were reported as superficial face wounds.
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VeeVees
02/02/18 4:31:21 AM
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Cacciato posted...
How the fuck did one round injure 5 people

trick shot
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Babbit55
02/02/18 4:34:52 AM
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And still people will stand up and say that kids cannot get guns and that it is A ok to have such easy access to weapons.

There is no good reason to own a gun. Even defence is a bad argument since you are more likely to be shot and killed if you own a gun, than if you don't!
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Mead
02/02/18 4:41:52 AM
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maybe it shouldnt be easy for children to get guns
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Babbit55
02/02/18 4:46:04 AM
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Mead posted...
maybe it shouldnt be easy for Anyone to get guns


I fixed that for you. If it is still easy for Adults, it is easy for children.

And you cannot say there isn't a problem when just schools have had 11 shootings this year (2018)! I mean common, 11 shootings in a single month, just at schools!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42804741
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bulbinking
02/02/18 4:46:52 AM
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Babbit55 posted...
And still people will stand up and say that kids cannot get guns and that it is A ok to have such easy access to weapons.

There is no good reason to own a gun. Even defence is a bad argument since you are more likely to be shot and killed if you own a gun, than if you don't!


Hey we have enough gun violence without claiming that caused by mexico!
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Babbit55
02/02/18 4:49:50 AM
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bulbinking posted...
Babbit55 posted...
And still people will stand up and say that kids cannot get guns and that it is A ok to have such easy access to weapons.

There is no good reason to own a gun. Even defence is a bad argument since you are more likely to be shot and killed if you own a gun, than if you don't!


Hey we have enough gun violence without claiming that caused by mexico!


You lost me, whats Mexico got to do with the price of fish?
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Sarcasthma
02/02/18 5:04:25 AM
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Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to own a gun.

How about if you're a hunter?
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HelIWithoutSin
02/02/18 5:08:40 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to own a gun.

How about if you're a hunter?


Hand to hoof/paw/beak combat only.
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Babbit55
02/02/18 5:09:33 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to own a gun.

How about if you're a hunter?


Have the gun registered and kept at a hunting lodge.

Nothing wrong with shooting guns for sport, hunting ect, though they should be kept and locked at a location like a shooting range or hunting lodge, not in peoples homes.
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dragon504
02/02/18 5:13:59 AM
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Sarcasthma
02/02/18 5:29:39 AM
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Babbit55 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to own a gun.

How about if you're a hunter?

Have the gun registered and kept at a hunting lodge.

Wouldn't that still qualify as owning a gun?
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Babbit55
02/02/18 5:37:57 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to own a gun.

How about if you're a hunter?

Have the gun registered and kept at a hunting lodge.

Wouldn't that still qualify as owning a gun?


Technically yes, though it is kept and stored away from general use, will be significantly harder to abuse too.

I know you are trying to say well that is a good reason! Though does that really help? 11 school shooting (and JUST school shootings) in a month, a single month. Never mind the gang murders, the suicides, the general accidents. Do you really want to argue the semantics?

There is no good reason to keep a gun at home or on your person, aside from in very narrow and incredibly controlled purposes, they should be heavily registered and licenced with continuing checks on the owner to ensure they are fit to keep and own the weapon. Is that better for your semantics?
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rexcrk
02/02/18 5:47:09 AM
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So was he planning on shooting up the place or...
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FinalXemnas
02/02/18 6:54:22 AM
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People are questioning how one round injured 5 people, while I'm wondering how a kid shot in the head only ended up as "injured".
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SushiSquid
02/02/18 7:16:50 AM
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Guns do not accidentally fire, much less hit five people with one shot. This was an intentional shooting.
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BlazeAndBlade
02/02/18 7:23:06 AM
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dragon504 posted...
Nah, guns are cool.


more like dicks with how often they go off in people's hands

and both can fire blanks
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hakujo
02/02/18 7:51:14 AM
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Just give babies guns, gotta stop them peds right
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SpaceBear_
02/02/18 8:46:10 AM
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How can anyone in America still not think gun control is a problem?

Bunch of braindead hicks.
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faramir77
02/02/18 8:58:57 AM
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Cacciato posted...
How the fuck did one round injure 5 people


This. The story isn't adding up.
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streamofthesky
02/02/18 9:17:28 AM
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So, the parents are going to jail for 20 years, right?

Cause holy shit!
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What_The_Chris
02/02/18 9:30:38 AM
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so if everyone in school was allowed to have a gun, this wouldn't have happened, right, that little girl would have been stopped dead in her tracks.
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XlaxJynx007
02/02/18 9:41:53 AM
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faramir77 posted...
Cacciato posted...
How the fuck did one round injure 5 people


This. The story isn't adding up.

Yep, somethings fucky
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Blighboy
02/02/18 9:42:51 AM
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FinalXemnas posted...
People are questioning how one round injured 5 people, while I'm wondering how a kid shot in the head only ended up as "injured".

People can survive headshots, it's not uncommon especially if it just glances off the skull.
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myghostisdead
02/02/18 9:46:44 AM
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Babbit55 posted...
Sarcasthma posted...
Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to own a gun.

How about if you're a hunter?


Have the gun registered and kept at a hunting lodge.

Nothing wrong with shooting guns for sport, hunting ect, though they should be kept and locked at a location like a shooting range or hunting lodge, not in peoples homes.


Most people I know that hunt have never been to a hunting lodge although they know of hunting cabins. Cabins are usually out in the middle of nowhere, are run down and not any place to keep something valuable.

I agree we need to address the gun and idiot problem here in the US. Too many kids and nuts with guns but I am not sure of how we do it.

This problem has only really came about in the last 30 or 40 years. Before then, I am speaking of just the knowledge of my area which is largely rural, most people had guns. People hunted, kids hunted. Hell, boys drove to school with guns in their pickup truck gun rack in the back window. ( When was the last time you saw a truck with a window gun rack?).

Yes, the guns getting into the hands of people who want to use them to injure or kill others is a problem that needs an answer but what the Hell has happened to society within this time span?
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dancer62
02/02/18 11:54:15 AM
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myghostisdead posted...

This problem has only really came about in the last 30 or 40 years. Before then, I am speaking of just the knowledge of my area which is largely rural, most people had guns. People hunted, kids hunted. Hell, boys drove to school with guns in their pickup truck gun rack in the back window. ( When was the last time you saw a truck with a window gun rack?).

what the Hell has happened to society within this time span?

Exactly! When I was a kid, we played cowboys and indians, soldiers (our dads and uncles fought WWII), G-men and robbers, etc. We ran all around the neighborhood with cap guns and air rifles, no problems.

Something is badly wrong with our culture, and guns have nothing to do with it. Does personal responsibility mean anything?
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Smarkil
02/02/18 12:15:41 PM
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Cacciato posted...
How the fuck did one round injure 5 people


They were all lined up back to back.

Also they're kids so they're like soft targets or whatevs.
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Smarkil
02/02/18 12:17:39 PM
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Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to keep a gun at home or on your person, aside from in very narrow and incredibly controlled purposes


So self defense isn't a good reason?
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Babbit55
02/02/18 1:00:59 PM
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Smarkil posted...
Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to keep a gun at home or on your person, aside from in very narrow and incredibly controlled purposes


So self defense isn't a good reason?


Genuinely no, if some is attacking you then a gun is more likely to get you killed, giving them what they want will keep you alive, if they want you dead, then a gun will not save you as they will have shot/stabbed you before you know and can get your gun.

As for home defence, you are much more likely to be killed by it, than save your life with it
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bulbinking
02/02/18 2:32:17 PM
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Babbit55 posted...
Smarkil posted...
Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to keep a gun at home or on your person, aside from in very narrow and incredibly controlled purposes


So self defense isn't a good reason?


Genuinely no, if some is attacking you then a gun is more likely to get you killed, giving them what they want will keep you alive, if they want you dead, then a gun will not save you as they will have shot/stabbed you before you know and can get your gun.

As for home defence, you are much more likely to be killed by it, than save your life with it


On a scale of one to paranoid id rate this post an 8 out of YOU ARENT GETTING SHOT IF YOU DONT HANG AROUND GANGBANGERS IN AMERICA STOP FREAKING OUT YOU ARE SAFE DUDE!
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Kyuubi4269
02/02/18 3:24:22 PM
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Babbit55 posted...
Genuinely no, if some is attacking you then a gun is more likely to get you killed, giving them what they want will keep you alive, if they want you dead, then a gun will not save you as they will have shot/stabbed you before you know and can get your gun.

As for home defence, you are much more likely to be killed by it, than save your life with it

What a load of horseshit. If that were true then police wouldn't be armed as they'd clearly just kill themselves with it every week.

If you own a gun for self defense only and never train, keeping it as a paperweight in the mean time then of course it's dangerous. This is on par with giving a toddler a sharp knife and expecting them to only eat their dinner with it.

If you are attacked then you need a decent resisting force to negotiate a reasonable outcome, unarmed you will at best be robbed and not much further along be raped and killed. You are only endangering yourself with a weapon if you cannot wield it and it's your own damn fault if it gets you killed.
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Babbit55
02/02/18 3:52:47 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Genuinely no, if some is attacking you then a gun is more likely to get you killed, giving them what they want will keep you alive, if they want you dead, then a gun will not save you as they will have shot/stabbed you before you know and can get your gun.

As for home defence, you are much more likely to be killed by it, than save your life with it

What a load of horseshit. If that were true then police wouldn't be armed as they'd clearly just kill themselves with it every week.

If you own a gun for self defense only and never train, keeping it as a paperweight in the mean time then of course it's dangerous. This is on par with giving a toddler a sharp knife and expecting them to only eat their dinner with it.

If you are attacked then you need a decent resisting force to negotiate a reasonable outcome, unarmed you will at best be robbed and not much further along be raped and killed. You are only endangering yourself with a weapon if you cannot wield it and it's your own damn fault if it gets you killed.


Says someone with zero knowledge of being mugged or jumped.
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dioxxys
02/02/18 3:54:55 PM
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The golden question here is who let the 12 year old fucking walk off with a pistol in her back pack as if it was for show and tell?
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Smarkil
02/02/18 4:18:14 PM
#43:


Babbit55 posted...
Smarkil posted...
Babbit55 posted...
There is no good reason to keep a gun at home or on your person, aside from in very narrow and incredibly controlled purposes


So self defense isn't a good reason?


Genuinely no, if some is attacking you then a gun is more likely to get you killed, giving them what they want will keep you alive, if they want you dead, then a gun will not save you as they will have shot/stabbed you before you know and can get your gun.

As for home defence, you are much more likely to be killed by it, than save your life with it


Yeah, this is a terrible argument.

First of all, I'm not giving someone my shit. They're going to have to fight me for it. Do you tell a person whose being raped that they should just lie back and take it too? Secondly, if they want me dead then I absofuckinglutely want a gun. At least then I have a chance. I don't know why you think I wouldn't be able to get to it.

And no, I'm not much more likely to get killed by my gun than saved by it. Statistics are incredibly disingenuous on this.

First of all, I'm not gonna shoot myself. So suicide, which is where most of this comes from, is off the table.

Secondly, I'm not stupid and I don't have kids. So having a gun for myself makes sense. Not only do I like to protect myself like I have the god damn right to. I like shooting. It's fun. And No, I'm not gonna pay 1000 bucks for a gun to let someone keep it in their garage.
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DirtBasedSoap
02/02/18 4:20:08 PM
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i really really like the idea of only the military and police having access to guns. super smart.
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Kyuubi4269
02/02/18 4:20:15 PM
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Babbit55 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Genuinely no, if some is attacking you then a gun is more likely to get you killed, giving them what they want will keep you alive, if they want you dead, then a gun will not save you as they will have shot/stabbed you before you know and can get your gun.

As for home defence, you are much more likely to be killed by it, than save your life with it

What a load of horseshit. If that were true then police wouldn't be armed as they'd clearly just kill themselves with it every week.

If you own a gun for self defense only and never train, keeping it as a paperweight in the mean time then of course it's dangerous. This is on par with giving a toddler a sharp knife and expecting them to only eat their dinner with it.

If you are attacked then you need a decent resisting force to negotiate a reasonable outcome, unarmed you will at best be robbed and not much further along be raped and killed. You are only endangering yourself with a weapon if you cannot wield it and it's your own damn fault if it gets you killed.


Says someone with zero knowledge of being mugged or jumped.

Been mugged twice, got a knife since.
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bulbinking
02/03/18 12:12:55 PM
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dioxxys posted...
The golden question here is who let the 12 year old fucking walk off with a pistol in her back pack as if it was for show and tell?


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TheCyborgNinja
02/03/18 2:41:24 PM
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The answer will always be "more guns" if it's a shooting and "ban it" when it's anything else.
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Smiffwilm
02/03/18 4:22:59 PM
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She chose to bring it. Not an accident as far as I'm concerned.
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XlaxJynx007
02/04/18 12:52:01 AM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
i really really like the idea of only the military and police having access to guns. super smart.

But the military is commanded by Trump and cops are racist murderers
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OhhhJa
02/04/18 12:57:08 AM
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People still blaming guns when mass shootings have absolutely fucking skyrocketed in the past 5 years... did people in America not own guns until 5 years ago or something? I feel like people are ignoring a bigger problem here.
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