Poll of the Day > is Terry Crews the most open transparent celebrity right now?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Seems like there is just no hiding in him he always talks about what is really going on in his life.

https://twitter.com/HLNTV/status/1011763816286310400
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He definitely seems like a pretty genuine guy.
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it's pretty fucked up Hollywood told him to stop talking about being sexually assaulted or they won't let him be in a movie
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Seems like a cucked bitch to me. If someone grabs your balls, you don't stand there and take it...
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...

Seems like a cucked bitch to me. If someone grabs your balls, you don't stand there and take it...

welcome to being black in america, take it or die
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TheSlinja posted...

TheOrangeMisfit posted...

Seems like a cucked bitch to me. If someone grabs your balls, you don't stand there and take it...

welcome to being black in america, take it or die

This is America don't catch you slipping now
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Hes lying about the whole thing. I dont trust these men hating feminists, always lying about stuff like this.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Hes lying about the whole thing. I dont trust these men hating feminists, always lying about stuff like this.

Ah yes, because this has done wonders for his career.
Look at how many great movies he has done.
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shadowsword87 posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

Hes lying about the whole thing. I dont trust these men hating feminists, always lying about stuff like this.

Ah yes, because this has done wonders for his career.
Look at how many great movies he has done.

Hes clearly doing it for the money. Just trying to ruin this poor guys career.

TheSlinja posted...

TheOrangeMisfit posted...

Seems like a cucked bitch to me. If someone grabs your balls, you don't stand there and take it...

welcome to being black in america, take it or die

Welcome to the US psychiatric clinic, we'll take away your paranoid delusions and replace them with real financial woes!
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MICHALECOLE posted...

shadowsword87 posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

Hes lying about the whole thing. I dont trust these men hating feminists, always lying about stuff like this.

Ah yes, because this has done wonders for his career.
Look at how many great movies he has done.

Hes clearly doing it for the money. Just trying to ruin this poor guys career.

What money is he getting
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The.. money

The feminism money

From feminism

Dear feminism, penis bad

Send checks to Mead
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

TheSlinja posted...

TheOrangeMisfit posted...

Seems like a cucked bitch to me. If someone grabs your balls, you don't stand there and take it...

welcome to being black in america, take it or die

Welcome to the US psychiatric clinic, we'll take away your paranoid delusions and replace them with real financial woes!

???
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MICHALECOLE posted...

The.. money

The feminism money

From feminism

Who pays for that?
Is there a company named "Feminism" that pays people to go out and speak out against sexual harassment? Congress sure doesn't.

Where does the money come from?
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Lmao this dude acting like he doesnt know where the money comes from

Yall getting trolled hard by mike

I get mad Soros Bucks for my feminism shilling
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Andromicus posted...

I get mad Soros Bucks for my feminism shilling

bucks?! that is the name for a male deer! don't you dare use that term again!!!
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OhhhJa posted...

Yall getting trolled hard by mike

how?
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I'm just wondering where all those MRA's are that keep bringing up the treatment of sexual assault against males whenever anybody suggests sexual assault against females should be taken more seriously. You'd think they'd be tripping over themselves to praise Crews' courage and offer their support, given how much of a trailblazer he's being for that cause.
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Funny that a big black man like Terry Crews is still claiming and whining he got gone groped by a nobody Hollywood agent or whatever, where Terry is a football athlete where he and teammates slapped their butts with wet towels etc.

WizardofHoth posted...

Funny that a big black man like Terry Crews is still claiming and whining he got gone groped by a nobody Hollywood agent or whatever, where Terry is a football athlete where he and teammates slapped their butts with wet towels etc.

Yes, this is absolutely the same thing

adjl posted...

I'm just wondering where all those MRA's are that keep bringing up the treatment of sexual assault against males whenever anybody suggests sexual assault against females should be taken more seriously. You'd think they'd be tripping over themselves to praise Crews' courage and offer their support, given how much of a trailblazer he's being for that cause.

Because MRAs don't think the law needs to change to suit them regarding sexual harassment.
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Very transparent. I can see right through the guy!

Kyuubi4269 posted...

adjl posted...

I'm just wondering where all those MRA's are that keep bringing up the treatment of sexual assault against males whenever anybody suggests sexual assault against females should be taken more seriously. You'd think they'd be tripping over themselves to praise Crews' courage and offer their support, given how much of a trailblazer he's being for that cause.

Because MRAs don't think the law needs to change to suit them regarding sexual harassment.

Male victims of sexual assault don't need reliable legal recourse for holding their attackers accountable?
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adjl posted...

Male victims of sexual assault don't need reliable legal recourse for holding their attackers accountable?

"reliable"

If all sexual assault claims were reliably turned in to prosecutions, you'd have a lot of wrongful arrests.

You have appropriate legal recourse.
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OhhhJa posted...

Very transparent. I can see right through the guy!

Is he a ghost?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

If all sexual assault claims were reliably turned in to prosecutions, you'd have a lot of wrongful arrests.

How is that in any way what I said? How could you possibly look at "reliable legal recourse" and get "automatic guilty verdict for every complaint"?
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adjl posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

If all sexual assault claims were reliably turned in to prosecutions, you'd have a lot of wrongful arrests.

How is that in any way what I said? How could you possibly look at "reliable legal recourse" and get "automatic guilty verdict for every complaint"?

As I alluded to, the word "reliable". What else could the world reliable mean in the context of holding somebody accountable? If you take somebody to court then they are already made to give their account and justify what they did.
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i like how peopel say he's' doing it for the money

the prosecutors have already declined against a suit
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

As I alluded to, the word "reliable". What else could the world reliable mean in the context of holding somebody accountable?

Consistently arriving at the correct verdict, perhaps? "Reliable" does not in any way imply false positives on its own.
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adjl posted...

"Reliable" does not in any way imply false positives on its own.

The word colloquially has a positive connotation

to imply otherwise would be disingenuous, to say the least.
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adjl posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

As I alluded to, the word "reliable". What else could the world reliable mean in the context of holding somebody accountable?

Consistently arriving at the correct verdict, perhaps? "Reliable" does not in any way imply false positives on its own.

Reliable implies consistency to some degree and you don't even know if their verdicts are wrong.

Their job is to examine the facts and decide if the evidence is sufficient to determine guilt, this is no different in cases of sexual assault and so you cant claim a discrepancy with sexual assault cases.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

The word colloquially has a positive connotation

"Positive" in the sense of "good," certainly. "Positive" in the sense of "affirmative," much less so. "Positive" in the sense of false positives, not at all. False positives are the opposite of reliability.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Their job is to examine the facts and decide if the evidence is sufficient to determine guilt, this is no different in cases of sexual assault and so you cant claim a discrepancy with sexual assault cases.

Except that sexual assaults are notoriously under-investigated. Sure, once you get into court, the burden of proof is applied reasonably, but if the facts haven't been properly collected in the first place, you're not going to end up with a verdict that reflects the facts.
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adjl posted...

Except that sexual assaults are notoriously under-investigated. Sure, once you get into court, the burden of proof is applied reasonably, but if the facts haven't been properly collected in the first place, you're not going to end up with a verdict that reflects the facts.

A sexual assault case isn't going to have much evidence to begin with, so unless you feel you actually have evidence, I don't know why you would seek prosecution. Regardless of how you have been wronged, it's not the job of the law to listen and believe.

So please, explain to me what would be not "properly collected" evidence in a case which lacks much to find in the first place. If you believe evidence wasn't collected then you must know it exists yet not present it.
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So its not ok for a hollywood agent or whatever to grab a big black dude's junk but its fine for football athletes to horse around slapping each other in the butts with wet towels etc?

WizardofHoth posted...

So its not ok for a hollywood agent or whatever to grab a big black dude's junk but its fine for football athletes to horse around slapping each other in the butts with wet towels etc?

Have you ever been on an athletic team?
Or are you confusing gay porn with real life?
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WizardofHoth posted...

So its not ok for a hollywood agent or whatever to grab a big black dude's junk but its fine for football athletes to horse around slapping each other in the butts with wet towels etc?

Correct.
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shadowsword87 posted...

WizardofHoth posted...

So its not ok for a hollywood agent or whatever to grab a big black dude's junk but its fine for football athletes to horse around slapping each other in the butts with wet towels etc?

Have you ever been on an athletic team?
Or are you confusing gay porn with real life?

He can only relate to what goes on at the bathhouse
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

So please, explain to me what would be not "properly collected" evidence in a case which lacks much to find in the first place. If you believe evidence wasn't collected then you must know it exists yet not present it.

Testimony, most notably. Collecting testimony from a recently-traumatized victim is a delicate process, and police often don't do it properly, resulting in the loss of key details that could have resulted in a conviction. The prevailing attitude of "this is going to be hard to prove" also discourages many victims from reporting in the first place, even in cases where there is physical evidence to be collected.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Regardless of how you have been wronged, it's not the job of the law to listen and believe.

It is actually the job of law enforcement to listen and believe. A certain degree of judgement is important to avoid wasting resources on obviously frivolous cases, but for somebody with no history of making false reports and no obvious psychosis (or other mental condition that would be very likely to result in blatant fabrications), a genuine effort should be made to take their claims seriously and investigate them to the fullest possible extent, whatever those claims are.

As much as people like to cite false sexual assault accusations as being a major problem, they aren't actually all that common, almost always fit a well-established pattern consistent with the behaviour of pathological liars, and virtually never result in an actual conviction. They're nowhere near a significant enough issue to affect how readily sexual assault claims are taken seriously, even in cases where concrete proof isn't immediately available.
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WizardofHoth posted...

So its not ok for a hollywood agent or whatever to grab a big black dude's junk but its fine for football athletes to horse around slapping each other in the butts with wet towels etc?

Yep. Exactly. You got it now...
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WizardofHoth posted...

So its not ok for a hollywood agent or whatever to grab a big black dude's junk but its fine for football athletes to horse around slapping each other in the butts with wet towels etc?

Provided the football players in question are okay with that? Yes. If not, not so much. The only salient factor here is consent. Without proper consent, sexual conduct of any sort is bad. With it, anything's fair game.
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Terry Crews is an american, no a world treasure
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adjl posted...

WizardofHoth posted...

So its not ok for a hollywood agent or whatever to grab a big black dude's junk but its fine for football athletes to horse around slapping each other in the butts with wet towels etc?

Provided the football players in question are okay with that? Yes. If not, not so much. The only salient factor here is consent. Without proper consent, sexual conduct of any sort is bad. With it, anything's fair game.

That's true. If the big black dude wanted the Hollywood agent to grab his junk, and the Hollywood agent wanted to grab the big black dude's junk, then it would have been fine...
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LinkPizza posted...

adjl posted...

WizardofHoth posted...

So its not ok for a hollywood agent or whatever to grab a big black dude's junk but its fine for football athletes to horse around slapping each other in the butts with wet towels etc?

Provided the football players in question are okay with that? Yes. If not, not so much. The only salient factor here is consent. Without proper consent, sexual conduct of any sort is bad. With it, anything's fair game.

That's true. If the big black dude wanted the Hollywood agent to grab his junk, and the Hollywood agent wanted to grab the big black dude's junk, then it would have been fine...

Precisely. But because the big black dude didn't want his junk grabbed, and the Hollywood agent threatened the dude's career (a very credible threat for any actor without an established career) if he resisted, it was not fine.
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adjl posted...

Testimony, most notably. Collecting testimony from a recently-traumatized victim is a delicate process, and police often don't do it properly, resulting in the loss of key details that could have resulted in a conviction.

What do they "not do properly"? I'm not aware of them collecting testimony differently in sexual assault cases.

adjl posted...

The prevailing attitude of "this is going to be hard to prove" also discourages many victims from reporting in the first place, even in cases where there is physical evidence to be collected.

So because people don't find the facts consoling, that's the fault of law enforcement? You probably shouldn't push for punishing others if you haven't got a good way of proving it, you'll only be wasting people's time. This is not different in sexual assault cases.

adjl posted...

It is actually the job of law enforcement to listen and believe.

They're actually supposed to believe the accused is innocent, which is directly in conflict with believing the accuser.

adjl posted...

A certain degree of judgement is important to avoid wasting resources on obviously frivolous cases, but for somebody with no history of making false reports and no obvious psychosis (or other mental condition that would be very likely to result in blatant fabrications), a genuine effort should be made to take their claims seriously and investigate them to the fullest possible extent, whatever those claims are.

A genuine effort should be made in all accusations regardless of prior history or mental illness. And it is.

adjl posted...

As much as people like to cite false sexual assault accusations as being a major problem, they aren't actually all that common, almost always fit a well-established pattern consistent with the behaviour of pathological liars, and virtually never result in an actual conviction. They're nowhere near a significant enough issue to affect how readily sexual assault claims are taken seriously, even in cases where concrete proof isn't immediately available.

That's irrelevant, we do not live in a society where your word is enough alone to punish anybody for anything. You will need proof and if you do not have it then you need to accept that nobody can help you get revenge in good conscience.
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