Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 450: NOBODY READY FOR.... Ellsworth

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TheRock1525 07/13/18 10:44:06 PM #252:	Lopen posted... Only Roman spear I can remember liking was the one in that Survivor Series match where he actually did nearly kill Shane McMahon. Which may be one more spear than Edge has done but I think inconsistent is very generous. He also murdered Rey Mysterio and did a great one to Big Show on the ramp. I think Ambrose sold it pretty good too. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:905040318] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>Only Roman spear I can remember liking was the one in that Survivor Series match where he actually did nearly kill Shane McMahon. Which may be one more spear than Edge has done but I think inconsistent is very generous.</quote> He also murdered Rey Mysterio and did a great one to Big Show on the ramp. I think Ambrose sold it pretty good too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 07/13/18 10:57:29 PM #253:	I remember him spearing Ziggler out of the corner once That was great --- Not to be confused with XIII_Stones. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:905040981] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>I remember him spearing Ziggler out of the corner once That was great</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 07/13/18 11:20:11 PM #254:	Edge had a decent spear, it's Batista who had the running hug of mild discomfort... --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - https://imgur.com/W66HUUy http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:905041896] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Edge had a decent spear, it's Batista who had the running hug of mild discomfort...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 07/13/18 11:21:19 PM #255:	Kaitlyn was very under rated --- https://imgur.com/iuSjE6B <cite>ScareChan posted [p:905041941] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Kaitlyn was very under rated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 07/13/18 11:23:54 PM #256:	Kaitlyn and AJ were Sasha and Bayley like 3 years too early --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - https://imgur.com/W66HUUy http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:905042044] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Kaitlyn and AJ were Sasha and Bayley like 3 years too early</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/13/18 11:27:30 PM #257:	Bayley is a much better wrestler than AJ. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:905042185] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Bayley is a much better wrestler than AJ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/13/18 11:41:42 PM #258:	Also she has a pretty kickass theme. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:905042838] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Also she has a pretty kickass theme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 07/13/18 11:42:23 PM #259:	aj was fine --- GTM - Boko United survivor and dillos and nintendo and wrestling <cite>GTM posted [p:905042876] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>aj was fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 07/14/18 12:02:43 AM #260:	there have been better wrestlers than AJ but she was pretty good --- Look at all those chickens I can be impulsive! I just have to think about it first! <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:905043712] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>there have been better wrestlers than AJ but she was pretty good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/14/18 12:05:22 AM #261:	AJ was pretty not good. She was below average and this was an era without a lot of great female wrestlers anyway. Great character work, though. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:905043821] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>AJ was pretty not good. She was below average and this was an era without a lot of great female wrestlers anyway. Great character work, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:06:20 AM #262:	AJ was top 3 of her era --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905043860] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>AJ was top 3 of her era</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/14/18 12:12:42 AM #263:	Jakyl25 posted... AJ was top 3 of her era As a wrestler? Because give me her era and I'll tell you who's better. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:905044114] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>AJ was top 3 of her era</quote> As a wrestler? Because give me her era and I'll tell you who's better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:15:14 AM #264:	Main roster only <_< 2012-2014 --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905044205] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Main roster only <_< 2012-2014</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 07/14/18 12:16:02 AM #265:	AJ was probably the worst woman's wrestler of all time that wasn't regarded as one. Character work and in the ring I think she could have been good if someone gave her a direction that suited her strengths instead of "sure you can wrestle like CM Punk cause you like him even though your strikes look like garbage and you're 90 lbs" and "sure you can pretend to be a crazy person cause you like Harley Quinn even though you're not convincing at all in the role" Give her a submission based moveset (her octopus lock was pretty good) and make her play a cocky heel (which is what she did anyway while throwing in random crazy looks in there CAUSE SHE'S CRAZY) and she would've been pretty okay. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:905044244] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>AJ was probably the worst woman's wrestler of all time that wasn't regarded as one. Character work and in the ring I think she could have been good if someone gave her a direction that suited her strengths instead of "sure you can wrestle like CM Punk cause you like him even though your strikes look like garbage and you're 90 lbs" and "sure you can pretend to be a crazy person cause you like Harley Quinn even though you're not convincing at all in the role" Give her a submission based moveset (her octopus lock was pretty good) and make her play a cocky heel (which is what she did anyway while throwing in random crazy looks in there CAUSE SHE'S CRAZY) and she would've been pretty okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 07/14/18 12:16:44 AM #266:	AJ was only top 3 if were only talking WWE , hell perhaps only if were talking about Raw. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:905044262] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>AJ was only top 3 if were only talking WWE , hell perhaps only if were talking about Raw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 07/14/18 12:17:33 AM #267:	I LIKED her character work granted she had the unfair advantage of "actually having a character" --- Look at all those chickens I can be impulsive! I just have to think about it first! <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:905044284] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>I LIKED her character work granted she had the unfair advantage of "actually having a character"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:18:19 AM #268:	Eddv posted... AJ was only top 3 if were only talking WWE , hell perhaps only if were talking about Raw. I am only talking WWE I have her behind Paige and Nikki --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905044320] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>AJ was only top 3 if were only talking WWE , hell perhaps only if were talking about Raw.</quote> I am only talking WWE I have her behind Paige and Nikki</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 07/14/18 12:19:38 AM #269:	Who is the pool in WWE from 2012-2014. I feel like I'd sooner argue AJ was the worst of the lot than top 3. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:905044372] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Who is the pool in WWE from 2012-2014. I feel like I'd sooner argue AJ was the worst of the lot than top 3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:22:48 AM #270:	Part of it is that as the Divas headliner, she was the only one consistently allowed to have matches of any length whatsoever. Like yes, Emma is a better wrestler than AJ, but there arent 2014 main roster examples of it. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905044480] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Part of it is that as the Divas headliner, she was the only one consistently allowed to have matches of any length whatsoever. Like yes, Emma is a better wrestler than AJ, but there arent 2014 main roster examples of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/14/18 12:24:42 AM #271:	Eddv posted... AJ was only top 3 if were only talking WWE , hell perhaps only if were talking about Raw. There was no brand split in her era. --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:905044547] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>AJ was only top 3 if were only talking WWE , hell perhaps only if were talking about Raw.</quote> There was no brand split in her era.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/14/18 12:26:40 AM #272:	AJ's character was awful because she was crazy but the only "crazy" thing she did on average was tilt her head because that's SO CRAZY I guess --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:905044622] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>AJ's character was awful because she was crazy but the only "crazy" thing she did on average was tilt her head because that's SO CRAZY I guess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/14/18 12:27:15 AM #273:	Beth Phoenix Natalya Paige Nikki Bella (towards the tail end of 2014) Eve Torres (post heel turn) --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:905044646] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Beth Phoenix Natalya Paige Nikki Bella (towards the tail end of 2014) Eve Torres (post heel turn)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 07/14/18 12:27:48 AM #274:	Jakyl25 posted... Part of it is that as the Divas headliner, she was the only one consistently allowed to have matches of any length whatsoever. Like yes, Emma is a better wrestler than AJ, but there arent 2014 main roster examples of it. So like are you giving AJ Lee props in the same way you could give The Kat props for being a top 3 women's wrestler in 1999 WWE here? I mean I'm pretty sure I disagree anyway with just the two names you've given + Kaitlyn but I can't decisively say Kaitlyn was much better. Maryse? Natalya? Surely some other women of note wrestled in that era --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:905044673] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Part of it is that as the Divas headliner, she was the only one consistently allowed to have matches of any length whatsoever. Like yes, Emma is a better wrestler than AJ, but there arent 2014 main roster examples of it.</quote> So like are you giving AJ Lee props in the same way you could give The Kat props for being a top 3 women's wrestler in 1999 WWE here? I mean I'm pretty sure I disagree anyway with just the two names you've given + Kaitlyn but I can't decisively say Kaitlyn was much better. Maryse? Natalya? Surely some other women of note wrestled in that era</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 07/14/18 12:28:13 AM #275:	Jakyl25 posted... Eddv posted... AJ was only top 3 if were only talking WWE , hell perhaps only if were talking about Raw. I am only talking WWE I have her behind Paige and Nikki I am not sure I'd take either of those over AJ partially because Paige took a while to gel --- Look at all those chickens I can be impulsive! I just have to think about it first! <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:905044690] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>AJ was only top 3 if were only talking WWE , hell perhaps only if were talking about Raw.</quote> I am only talking WWE I have her behind Paige and Nikki</quote> I am not sure I'd take either of those over AJ partially because Paige took a while to gel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/14/18 12:28:51 AM #276:	Natalya is actually a great wrestler, she just never got opportunities to really showcase it aside from NXT. --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:905044711] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Natalya is actually a great wrestler, she just never got opportunities to really showcase it aside from NXT.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:30:21 AM #277:	Lopen posted... So like are you giving AJ Lee props in the same way you could give The Kat props for being a top 3 women's wrestler in 1999 WWE here? Yes, although Ivory + Jacqueline + Tori all best Kat --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905044770] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote> So like are you giving AJ Lee props in the same way you could give The Kat props for being a top 3 women's wrestler in 1999 WWE here? </quote> Yes, although Ivory + Jacqueline + Tori all best Kat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:30:59 AM #278:	scarletspeed7 posted... Natalya is actually a great wrestler, she just never got opportunities to really showcase it aside from NXT. She actually had a great match in 2014 on Main Event with AJ Lee! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905044784] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote>Natalya is actually a great wrestler, she just never got opportunities to really showcase it aside from NXT.</quote> She actually had a great match in 2014 on Main Event with AJ Lee!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:32:45 AM #279:	Lopen posted... Maryse? Natalya? Surely some other women of note wrestled in that era Heres the WM 30 match where AJ had to wrestle every other active woman AJ Lee (c) defeated Aksana, Alicia Fox, Brie Bella, Cameron, Emma, Eva Marie, Layla, Naomi, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Rosa Mendes, Summer Rae, and Tamina Snuka by submission --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905044858] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote> Maryse? Natalya? Surely some other women of note wrestled in that era</quote> Heres the WM 30 match where AJ had to wrestle every other active woman AJ Lee (c) defeated Aksana, Alicia Fox, Brie Bella, Cameron, Emma, Eva Marie, Layla, Naomi, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Rosa Mendes, Summer Rae, and Tamina Snuka by submission</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 07/14/18 12:32:48 AM #280:	I would argue that Alicia Fox even in her tragically limited role was better and Kaitlyn as well. Kharma as well, though I guess you might not count her. Though I would take literally anyone from the Knockouts roster at the time (Gail Kim, Mickie, Tara, ODB, Taryn Tarrell, Madison Rayne, Angelina Love at the very least) over the whole lot of them. Velvet Sky and Brooke Tessmacher were probably worse than Paige and Nikki, but still better than AJ. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:905044862] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>I would argue that Alicia Fox even in her tragically limited role was better and Kaitlyn as well. Kharma as well, though I guess you might not count her. Though I would take literally anyone from the Knockouts roster at the time (Gail Kim, Mickie, Tara, ODB, Taryn Tarrell, Madison Rayne, Angelina Love at the very least) over the whole lot of them. Velvet Sky and Brooke Tessmacher were probably worse than Paige and Nikki, but still better than AJ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/14/18 12:34:27 AM #281:	Eddv posted... Velvet Sky and Brooke Tessmacher were probably worse than Paige and Nikki, but still better than AJ. What --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:905044917] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>Velvet Sky and Brooke Tessmacher were probably worse than Paige and Nikki, but still better than AJ.</quote> What</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:36:08 AM #282:	TheRock1525 posted... Beth Phoenix Natalya Paige Nikki Bella (towards the tail end of 2014) Eve Torres (post heel turn) I forgot Eve. Point. I assumed Beth had retired by the time AJ started working in 2012. If not, OF COURSE shes better. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905044975] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Beth Phoenix Natalya Paige Nikki Bella (towards the tail end of 2014) Eve Torres (post heel turn)</quote> I forgot Eve. Point. I assumed Beth had retired by the time AJ started working in 2012. If not, OF COURSE shes better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:37:20 AM #283:	Lopen posted... Who is the pool in WWE from 2012-2014. I feel like I'd sooner argue AJ was the worst of the lot than top 3. At the very least, I hope that WM match Divas list proves that no one can reasonably argue AJ as THE worst. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905045014] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>Who is the pool in WWE from 2012-2014. I feel like I'd sooner argue AJ was the worst of the lot than top 3.</quote> At the very least, I hope that WM match Divas list proves that no one can reasonably argue AJ as THE worst.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 07/14/18 12:38:40 AM #284:	Of that match listing... Alicia Fox Emma Layla (entirely on character work-- Michelle McCool held her down man) Nikki Natalya Were definitely better. There are a few that I'm on the fence of. And then of Rock's list Beth and Eve also if they counted (though Eve is another great example of a woman not playing to her strengths-- if she just cut the high risk maneuvers out of her moveset entirely she would have been pretty decent) And then Paige who is on none of the lists. That she's possibly top half of that group of like 12 women is pretty scary though --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:905045060] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Of that match listing... Alicia Fox Emma Layla (entirely on character work-- Michelle McCool held her down man) Nikki Natalya Were definitely better. There are a few that I'm on the fence of. And then of Rock's list Beth and Eve also if they counted (though Eve is another great example of a woman not playing to her strengths-- if she just cut the high risk maneuvers out of her moveset entirely she would have been pretty decent) And then Paige who is on none of the lists. That she's possibly top half of that group of like 12 women is pretty scary though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 07/14/18 12:41:06 AM #285:	StealThisSheen posted... Eddv posted... Velvet Sky and Brooke Tessmacher were probably worse than Paige and Nikki, but still better than AJ. What Ill say this for velvet - she played to her one and only strength. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:905045145] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>Velvet Sky and Brooke Tessmacher were probably worse than Paige and Nikki, but still better than AJ.</quote> What</quote> Ill say this for velvet - she played to her one and only strength.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 12:42:17 AM #286:	Anyone want to argue for Maria Menounos or Snooki? You could make a case <_< --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905045185] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Anyone want to argue for Maria Menounos or Snooki? You could make a case <_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/14/18 12:43:35 AM #287:	I once watched a match where Velvet was supposed to come into the ring to break up a pin and she got caught up on the second rope and tried to cover it by acting like she was doing the ass thing Meanwhile, the ref literally had to stop at the 2 count for several seconds before whoever just broke off the pin and went and fought with Velvet, skipping what I assume was a good three or four steps. EDIT: Another time she was I assume supposed to tag in by slapping somebody on the back, but she missed and tumbled over the top rope and had to roll back outside and do it again --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:905045230] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>I once watched a match where Velvet was supposed to come into the ring to break up a pin and she got caught up on the second rope and tried to cover it by acting like she was doing the ass thing Meanwhile, the ref literally had to stop at the 2 count for several seconds before whoever just broke off the pin and went and fought with Velvet, skipping what I assume was a good three or four steps. EDIT: Another time she was I assume supposed to tag in by slapping somebody on the back, but she missed and tumbled over the top rope and had to roll back outside and do it again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/14/18 12:50:30 AM #288:	Jakyl25 posted... Anyone want to argue for Maria Menounos or Snooki? You could make a case <_< Maria Menounos is the women's equivalent of Stephen Amell. EDIT: That's a compliment, FYI. --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:905045487] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone want to argue for Maria Menounos or Snooki? You could make a case <_<</quote> Maria Menounos is the women's equivalent of Stephen Amell. EDIT: That's a compliment, FYI.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 07/14/18 12:51:46 AM #289:	I will say I think AJ did a few things well 1. She could talk okay. Had good flow. And cadence when she wasn't trying to be OH CRAZY. 2. As I said the submissions were decent looking when she did them 3. I liked her selling a lot. Watching AJ get rag dolled all over the place was very fun The problem is she sabotaged herself out of 1 and 2 by not having a good idea of what she was good at and just doing what she was a fan of. While in theory a good AJ match could occur she'd be throwing out these clumsy backhands and the opponent would have to sell them-- Ric Flair could get a good match out of a broom but he couldn't get a good one out of AJ Lee for this reason. And while she in theory could cut a good promo she wouldn't because her character was utterly unbelievable or she was dropping cringey "pipe bombs" or whatever else. She was a fangirl first a wrestler second. And yeah it made her really painful to watch. Honestly if her selling was not good it would be really hard to put her above much in that battle royal or whatever other than like Cameron. And it still is, really. I can't honestly say she's better than Rosa Mendes and be fully confident in it because I think AJ Lee's ability to tank a segment was much greater-- but I can't honestly say Rosa Mendes is better either cause at least AJ Lee was good at some things. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:905045533] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>I will say I think AJ did a few things well 1. She could talk okay. Had good flow. And cadence when she wasn't trying to be OH CRAZY. 2. As I said the submissions were decent looking when she did them 3. I liked her selling a lot. Watching AJ get rag dolled all over the place was very fun The problem is she sabotaged herself out of 1 and 2 by not having a good idea of what she was good at and just doing what she was a fan of. While in theory a good AJ match could occur she'd be throwing out these clumsy backhands and the opponent would have to sell them-- Ric Flair could get a good match out of a broom but he couldn't get a good one out of AJ Lee for this reason. And while she in theory could cut a good promo she wouldn't because her character was utterly unbelievable or she was dropping cringey "pipe bombs" or whatever else. She was a fangirl first a wrestler second. And yeah it made her really painful to watch. Honestly if her selling was not good it would be really hard to put her above much in that battle royal or whatever other than like Cameron. And it still is, really. I can't honestly say she's better than Rosa Mendes and be fully confident in it because I think AJ Lee's ability to tank a segment was much greater-- but I can't honestly say Rosa Mendes is better either cause at least AJ Lee was good at some things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/14/18 1:03:07 AM #290:	https://mobile.twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/1017589162848018432/video/1 This may be the greatest RKO outta nowhere. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:905045944] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>https://mobile.twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/1017589162848018432/video/1 This may be the greatest RKO outta nowhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 07/14/18 1:07:44 AM #291:	TheRock1525 posted... https://mobile.twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/1017589162848018432/video/1 This may be the greatest RKO outta nowhere. thing of beauty. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:905046112] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>https://mobile.twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/1017589162848018432/video/1 This may be the greatest RKO outta nowhere.</quote> thing of beauty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 07/14/18 1:07:58 AM #292:	also ffffff G1 starts in 4.5 hours and there is no way I'm gonna be able to wake up --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:905046119] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>also ffffff G1 starts in 4.5 hours and there is no way I'm gonna be able to wake up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/14/18 4:26:58 AM #293:	TheRock1525 posted... https://mobile.twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/1017589162848018432/video/1 This may be the greatest RKO outta nowhere. OVE does that all the time. You should have seen the one like that to the outside through a table at the Redemption PPV. Watch Impact!!! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:905051378] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>https://mobile.twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/1017589162848018432/video/1 This may be the greatest RKO outta nowhere.</quote> OVE does that all the time. You should have seen the one like that to the outside through a table at the Redemption PPV. Watch Impact!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 07/14/18 7:04:54 AM #294:	G1 is WWE --- Congrats to Eli Ayase's #1 fan BK_Sheikah00 on winning the BYIG Guru Contest. <cite>voltch posted [p:905053729] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>G1 is WWE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steiner 07/14/18 9:12:12 AM #295:	did YOSHI-HASHI just have the match of the night --- This body makes me feel eternal. All this pain is an illusion. <cite>Steiner posted [p:905056418] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>did YOSHI-HASHI just have the match of the night</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/14/18 11:18:19 AM #296:	TheRock1525 posted... https://mobile.twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/1017589162848018432/video/1 This may be the greatest RKO outta nowhere. I watched this match last night and the lead-up to this is quite hilarious. People deliver about 9 different cutters. --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:905060723] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>https://mobile.twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/1017589162848018432/video/1 This may be the greatest RKO outta nowhere.</quote> I watched this match last night and the lead-up to this is quite hilarious. People deliver about 9 different cutters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 07/14/18 11:45:36 AM #297:	Impact has been so good lately. And so free of charge on twitch pretty often. Fucking Tessa Blanchard at Rise against Kris Wolf. Holy mama. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:905061912] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Impact has been so good lately. And so free of charge on twitch pretty often. Fucking Tessa Blanchard at Rise against Kris Wolf. Holy mama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 07/14/18 11:46:41 AM #298:	Eddv posted... Impact has been so good lately. And so free of charge on twitch pretty often. Fucking Tessa Blanchard at Rise against Kris Wolf. Holy mama. Impact has been really, legitimately good. There are good story arcs going in weird places, and at least one really bang-up match on every show. --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:905061959] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote>Impact has been so good lately. And so free of charge on twitch pretty often. Fucking Tessa Blanchard at Rise against Kris Wolf. Holy mama.</quote> Impact has been really, legitimately good. There are good story arcs going in weird places, and at least one really bang-up match on every show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 07/14/18 1:28:31 PM #299:	Watching the G1 now. Can someone tell me why there's a particular disdain for Elgin, especially among American fans? I don't get it. Every match I've seen from him this year has been good to very good. And his match a few years ago with Naito was exceptional. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:905066552] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote>Watching the G1 now. Can someone tell me why there's a particular disdain for Elgin, especially among American fans? I don't get it. Every match I've seen from him this year has been good to very good. And his match a few years ago with Naito was exceptional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 07/14/18 1:31:38 PM #300:	ExThaNemesis posted... Watching the G1 now. Can someone tell me why there's a particular disdain for Elgin, especially among American fans? I don't get it. Every match I've seen from him this year has been good to very good. And his match a few years ago with Naito was exceptional. Because he was RoHs Roman Reigns for a hot minute and people never forgave him. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/chXIw06 <cite>Eddv posted [p:905066719] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>ExThaNemesis posted...</cite> <quote>Watching the G1 now. Can someone tell me why there's a particular disdain for Elgin, especially among American fans? I don't get it. Every match I've seen from him this year has been good to very good. And his match a few years ago with Naito was exceptional.</quote> Because he was RoHs Roman Reigns for a hot minute and people never forgave him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 07/14/18 1:34:41 PM #301:	Eddv posted... ExThaNemesis posted... Watching the G1 now. Can someone tell me why there's a particular disdain for Elgin, especially among American fans? I don't get it. Every match I've seen from him this year has been good to very good. And his match a few years ago with Naito was exceptional. Because he was RoHs Roman Reigns for a hot minute and people never forgave him. That may have been true before, but Elgin recovered everyone's love after a couple of good G1 runs. What sent him back on people's shitlist was him alledgedly covering for a rapist. --- Congrats to Eli Ayase's #1 fan BK_Sheikah00 on winning the BYIG Guru Contest. <cite>voltch posted [p:905066889] in All-Purpos... [t:76774666]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eddv posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ExThaNemesis posted...</cite> <quote>Watching the G1 now. Can someone tell me why there's a particular disdain for Elgin, especially among American fans? I don't get it. Every match I've seen from him this year has been good to very good. And his match a few years ago with Naito was exceptional.</quote> Because he was RoHs Roman Reigns for a hot minute and people never forgave him.</quote> That may have been true before, but Elgin recovered everyone's love after a couple of good G1 runs. What sent him back on people's shitlist was him alledgedly covering for a rapist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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