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DifferentialEquation
12/10/18 9:45:08 PM
#201:


Kineth posted...
A 49 karma account from 2010 suddenly has an interest in telling black people what is really going on. Mods, ban this poor excuse for a human.


Ah yes, the fact that he has a life outside of Gamefaqs and only posts here infrequently means that his arguments are invalid. If anything, I'd say that it makes his arguments stronger as he's likely speaking from a position of life experience and being well educated.
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Returning_CEmen
12/10/18 9:46:26 PM
#202:


About DamnTime
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SonyFan462
12/10/18 10:04:49 PM
#203:


Can we send @Kineth there permanently?
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eggcorn
12/10/18 10:05:52 PM
#204:


SonyFan462 posted...
Can we send @Kineth there permanently?

I doubt he would be complaining being surrounded by women and all
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SonyFan462
12/10/18 10:09:20 PM
#205:


Pretty sure kineth is a black woman though
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Anti-245
12/10/18 10:18:00 PM
#206:


CornBarn posted...
Anti-245 posted...
Revisionist history, most whites directly benefited from the new deal.


Most white people today do not have any tangible benefits from the new deal.

Anti-245 posted...
You still haven't answered what categories you're using for Asians and Indians because if you break it down, many of them are in the same boat as blacks. They simply take East Asians and certain Indians and over represent them. They never do it with African immigrants who have those same attributes as Asian and Indian immigrants on the high end.


So you want me to break down "Asian and Indian" into categories...but you refuse to break White into categories? Because you know that there are whites from different parts of the world and not all of them are necessarily doing well financially. That's hypocritical.

Anti-245 posted...
Whites still possess the majority of American wealth and while others have struggled, they're wealth actually rebounded quite nicely since 2007. Again, wealth is not income. You've already said it yourself though what you described is still not the totality of wealth.

I'm waiting: why do whites have 90% of all wealth here?


Factors that aid in building wealth are having a large income, not having children before marriage, not being a single parent household, and completing college with a relevant education. After that it's simply a matter of investing.

Income is the metric that actually matters.

So, now we're going to the old "income is the only thing that matters, blacks just need to xyz to fix it" like I knew you would.
We could break whites down by wealth and show that hs dropouts have better job prospects and wealth accumulation that you could easily find but you're concerned about "income", which whites still ear more than blacks but enough to have 90% of the wealth.
All the investing in world couldn't beat that, but you've yet to answer this massive disparity so we're done.
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Anti-245
12/10/18 10:18:42 PM
#207:


Taharqa_ posted...
CornBarn posted...
Anti-245 posted...
That's not how whites generated their wealth


Yes it is. The majority of white millionaires are self-made. No inheritance, no loans, all new money.

Anti-245 posted...
For example, whites were able to generate wealth during the new deal with their houses and passing it down over generations. Blacks didn't have that privledge.


The majority of white people didn't have that privilege either.

Anti-245 posted...
Which Asians are you talking about btw? What about Indians as well?


Whites are not the ones with the largest incomes and the rate of increase in white wealth has slowed down considerably. The disparities between black and Jew and black and Asian and black and Indian are larger than between black and white.


So you ignore the reality of the well documented intergenerational transmission of inequality enacted through policies by the state and Federal government to go..."nuh uh"?

He said income is the only thing matters. Don't waste your time.
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Deadpool_18
12/10/18 10:19:19 PM
#208:


Hopefully shes properly labeled as a racist in most of the articles being written on the matter.
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Anti-245
12/10/18 10:23:49 PM
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Sad_Face
12/10/18 10:24:20 PM
#210:


I'm going to read through the topic, but as a Caribbean native, as someone who grew up around people who look like myself, I can somewhat sympathize with the girls. They want to be in a community with people who look like them and they feel like the odd ones out in their community. Growing up where I did and not having grown up in the 60's, I have had the privilege to develop my own identity and not develop that animosity towards white folks. Hell, native white people down here don't even consider themselves white (we call 'em frenchies cause they immigrated from St. Barths) and look down on white folks.

So wherever I go, because I've developed a distinct enough personality and know how to get along with just about anyone, people see "me" before they see my skin color, if that makes sense. Those girls probably have stunted identities so that they see their color as a huge defining part of who they are which clashes with the people they speak to everyday and in turn makes them want to seek their safe space.

That being said, the founder is a hack for deciding to go Costa Rica of all islands. If you're organizing a black women's retreat, why not go to an island that is predominantly black for your safe space? WTF, we're not good enough for you? If you're gonna be racist and call for segregation, at least be consistent about it and support your own... not that we really want you anyways.
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FrisbeeDude
12/10/18 10:25:37 PM
#211:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Hopefully shes properly labeled as a racist in most of the articles being written on the matter.


why would articles print something inaccurate like that
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Kineth
12/10/18 10:26:59 PM
#212:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Hopefully shes properly labeled as a racist in most of the articles being written on the matter.


why would articles print something inaccurate like that


I dunno. Why would a guy who got purgatoried twice this year for racist shitposting be commenting on other people's racism? jic it's not clear, I'm referring to Deadpool.
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Cooldawg86
12/10/18 10:30:50 PM
#213:


Who gives a shit? 22 pages of humans smearing shit around. Humans need a real enemy. Like gears or war.
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SSMajinVegeta2
12/10/18 10:35:10 PM
#214:


Veggeta X posted...
You can't fight racism with racism. It really is that simple.


White people shouldnt have access to passports or be able to leave the US..


You cant fught hate with more hate.
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Anti-245
12/10/18 10:35:40 PM
#215:


Cooldawg86 posted...
Who gives a shit? 22 pages of humans smearing shit around. Humans need a real enemy. Like gears or war.

Or we could listen and discussion with each other without dishonesty.
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CornBarn
12/10/18 10:39:02 PM
#216:


Anti-245 posted...
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/01/how-wealth-inequality-has-changed-in-the-u-s-since-the-great-recession-by-race-ethnicity-and-income/


I don't care for demos or forbes enough to give them clicks, but this analysis and more importantly the underlying data when coupled with the Nielsen data I provided earlier in the thread all show a very different narrative than the one you've been peddling.

For example, consider how the poorest region of the country is the south. It's the region where the value of before-tax income for families with assets has historically been the lowest of any region. And that is where most black people live. And a lot of white people who are on welfare. It's almost as if living in an economically depressed region of the country, like the south or rust belt in the midwest, is not good for someone's wealth.

Also consider that the median value of net worth for families with holdings per age group shows that the age group with the lowest wealth is in the 35 to 44 range. Guess where the black working class fits into that? It's largely a very young population that has yet to enter its peak earning potential.

The amount of data in the underlying federal reserve report is truly massive and can be analyzed in so many ways. It's still ultimately silly to offer hot takes like "whites own 90% of everything" as if that means anything. The majority of whites don't own anything. It's ultimately the wealthiest top 1% of the top 1% that own a massive amount of the current wealth in the system.

I'd usually be happy to dig in and provide a lot of context but I'm afraid you've shown that you're just a low-effort troll.
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Deadpool_18
12/10/18 10:39:57 PM
#217:


Kineth posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Hopefully shes properly labeled as a racist in most of the articles being written on the matter.


why would articles print something inaccurate like that


I dunno. Why would a guy who got purgatoried twice this year for racist shitposting be commenting on other people's racism? jic it's not clear, I'm referring to Deadpool.


Lol no I didnt? Why are you always so angry?
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Kineth
12/10/18 10:41:07 PM
#218:


Oh I'm sorry. You got purged ONCE for that racist topic you made back in April or something.

Also nice one trying to complain I'm mad, as if I don't remember you going full meltdown and calling me a racist only to get purged over the exact incident I'm talking about.
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mobile_jukester
12/10/18 10:50:04 PM
#219:


Country clubs.
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JONICS
12/10/18 10:52:05 PM
#220:


I would love to prank that vacation spot by shipping a bunch of mayo
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Phenomenal_one
12/10/18 11:06:15 PM
#221:


As a fellow white person, looks like a nice vacation.
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Enderknight17
12/10/18 11:24:51 PM
#222:


YourDrunkFather posted...
People need to stop trying to justify shit like this. She's just a racist. End of story.

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Deadpool_18
12/10/18 11:26:29 PM
#223:


Kineth posted...
Oh I'm sorry. You got purged ONCE for that racist topic you made back in April or something.

Also nice one trying to complain I'm mad, as if I don't remember you going full meltdown and calling me a racist only to get purged over the exact incident I'm talking about.


Boy, theres a lot to unpack here. I think you should calm down a bit.
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/10/18 11:40:05 PM
#224:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Kineth posted...
Oh I'm sorry. You got purged ONCE for that racist topic you made back in April or something.

Also nice one trying to complain I'm mad, as if I don't remember you going full meltdown and calling me a racist only to get purged over the exact incident I'm talking about.


Boy, theres a lot to unpack here. I think you should calm down a bit.


gaslighting FTW
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SideburnStalker17
12/10/18 11:53:14 PM
#225:


They are here, they are everywhere, you know? I feel like black people shouldn't even have passports. Especially black people from the United States. They need to stay in the United States. I have no advice for black people. Let us have our space, let us have our room, and go hang out with other black people.

Starting watching at 5:15 and the only thing that will change is the word "white" for "black".

What black women go through shouldn't be minimized, but that woman has some misdirected anger at all white people. She is openly promoting segregation.
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/10/18 11:59:06 PM
#226:


SideburnStalker17 posted...

What black women go through shouldn't be minimized, but that woman has some misdirected anger at all white people. She is openly promoting segregation.


basically this.
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Deadpool_18
12/11/18 12:01:27 AM
#227:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Kineth posted...
Oh I'm sorry. You got purged ONCE for that racist topic you made back in April or something.

Also nice one trying to complain I'm mad, as if I don't remember you going full meltdown and calling me a racist only to get purged over the exact incident I'm talking about.


Boy, theres a lot to unpack here. I think you should calm down a bit.


gaslighting FTW


Usual suspecks ftw
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Duck-Butter
12/11/18 12:37:40 AM
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there are white people who moved to africa and decided it was best to keep the black africans out of their area........
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Nidhoggr
12/11/18 12:45:51 AM
#229:


The way I see it, if black people want to segregate themselves then let them...
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The Wheelman1
12/11/18 12:46:59 AM
#230:


That's hella racist.
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Anti-245
12/11/18 12:54:28 AM
#231:


Duck-Butter posted...
there are white people who moved to africa and decided it was best to keep the black africans out of their area........

Self determination isn't for black people. Only whites can have that, you see.
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fhqwhgads
12/11/18 1:42:04 AM
#232:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Kineth posted...
Oh I'm sorry. You got purged ONCE for that racist topic you made back in April or something.

Also nice one trying to complain I'm mad, as if I don't remember you going full meltdown and calling me a racist only to get purged over the exact incident I'm talking about.


Boy, theres a lot to unpack here. I think you should calm down a bit.


gaslighting FTW

Learned a new word huh?
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UnfairRepresent
12/11/18 3:52:33 AM
#233:


DifferentialEquation posted...
EliteC posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Imagine if someone promoted a white vacation away from black people.


You mean places like myrtle beach, the Florida panhandle or a trump tower / trump golf course vaction package?


Please show us show us the policies of these places that don't allow black people. Also, considering that you can book your stays online, how do they stop black people from vacationing there?

and they were never seen again
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FrisbeeDude
12/11/18 3:54:03 AM
#234:


is there any scenario black people can meet under to discuss race that wont piss off the MAGA crowd?
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Kineth
12/11/18 3:55:11 AM
#235:


FrisbeeDude posted...
is there any scenario black people can meet under to discuss race that wont piss off the MAGA crowd?


Black identity is offensive to the MAGA crowd. That's why they talk about it so much. Sucks for Asian and Hispanic people because they don't even acknowledge their identity enough to denigrate it.
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Amatsukaze
12/11/18 6:21:47 AM
#236:


FrisbeeDude posted...
is there any scenario white people can meet under to discuss race that wont piss off the SJW crowd?

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Kineth
12/11/18 6:59:11 AM
#237:


Amatsukaze posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
is there any scenario white people can meet under to discuss race that wont piss off the SJW crowd?


There are plenty of scenarios. One scenario would be not putting white and black people as polar opposites like you just did and regularly do.

You want any more advice or were you just stirring the pot with no care for an answer, 462?

Also, did you want to answer Frisbee's question?
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shnangyboos
12/11/18 7:00:53 AM
#238:


I'd be interested in hearing one of those scenarios.
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/11/18 8:21:35 AM
#239:


Black people haven't figured out how to be subtle, and instead announce every intention. gotta follow the example already set and just deny being racially motivated even if all criteria is met. just give random reasons for the contempt. that's how it works from my observation.

she could filter out White people by denying them for other reasons. "oh, I'm sorry.. we actually have a no "New Balance shoe" policy." "oh, that's fine. I have a spare pair of flip flops." "ah... flip flops are the only things more banned at this resort than New Balance shoes. I'm sorry!" then when asked if race is a factor, just pretend to be outraged at the thought of the implications.
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Kineth
12/11/18 8:23:46 AM
#240:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Black people haven't figured out how to be subtle, and instead announce every intention. gotta follow the example already set and just deny being racially motivated even if all criteria is met. just give random reasons for the contempt. that's how it works from my observation.


Sadly true.
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Sad_Face
12/11/18 8:55:27 AM
#241:


FrisbeeDude posted...
is there any scenario black people can meet under to discuss race that wont piss off the MAGA crowd?

The founder could have framed it in such a way as a retreat for black women to understand themselves and learn how to embrace their color or something like that. Not "here's a retreat for black women to run away from white people".
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Kineth
12/11/18 9:03:31 AM
#242:


They could have and yes, it would have been less offensive, but I don't think that would have appeased the crowd he's referring to.
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/11/18 9:06:29 AM
#243:


Sad_Face posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
is there any scenario black people can meet under to discuss race that wont piss off the MAGA crowd?

The founder could have framed it in such a way as a retreat for black women to understand themselves and learn how to embrace their color or something like that. Not "here's a retreat for black women to run away from white people".


Her: "I'm opening a retreat for Black women to understand themselves and learn how to embrace themselves."

Some White male: "Oh! Why only for Black women? Imagine if a White woman said that for White people!?"

sorry, guy.. but it's been tested and proven time after time: ain't no pleasing folk like that.

Black people are also long overdue for not concerning themselves about White opinions when the matter is about Black people uplifting other Black people.
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DifferentialEquation
12/11/18 9:07:31 AM
#244:


Amatsukaze posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
is there any scenario white people can meet under to discuss race that wont piss off the SJW crowd?


SJWs get pissed off if there agenda is not present everywhere and at all times.

Far Cry 5 is great example. When the game was first revealed, we saw that it was about a religious cult led by white guy in rural America. SJWs were salivating because the though the game was going to be anti-Trump. Then the game turned out to basically be apolitical and SJWs were upset and dinged it for its lack of race and identity politics.

There was also this gem (one of my favorites) of the reviewer being disappointed that Mario Kart 8 only had white characters:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2014/05/mario-kart-8-review-wii-u.html
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Sad_Face
12/11/18 9:33:07 AM
#245:


Kineth posted...
They could have and yes, it would have been less offensive, but I don't think that would have appeased the crowd he's referring to.

RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Her: "I'm opening a retreat for Black women to understand themselves and learn how to embrace themselves."

Some White male: "Oh! Why only for Black women? Imagine if a White woman said that for White people!?"


Fine we'll reframe it, "I'm opening up a retreat for black women to learn about the history of their hair and how to tame it and teach their daughters to appreciate their hair as opposed to wanting to perm it and let me not advertise at a predominantly white audience."

Boom
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Kineth
12/11/18 9:36:03 AM
#246:


That's something that mothers teach their daughters and frankly, it wouldn't work. Mentioning discluding white people is all the ammo they need to start their chicanery.
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CornBarn
12/11/18 9:36:33 AM
#247:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Black people are also long overdue for not concerning themselves about White opinions when the matter is about Black people uplifting other Black people.


Does the same apply for White people and Asian people and Indian people concerned about uplifting their own people?
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Kineth
12/11/18 9:40:53 AM
#248:


CornBarn posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Black people are also long overdue for not concerning themselves about White opinions when the matter is about Black people uplifting other Black people.


Does the same apply for White people and Asian people and Indian people concerned about uplifting their own people?


What a farce of a question. Among other things, those groups aren't disenfranchised.
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pres_madagascar
12/11/18 9:45:54 AM
#249:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Imagine if someone promoted a white vacation away from black people.

They do, it's called sandals resorts.
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Devil_Katt_II
12/11/18 9:47:42 AM
#250:


I fail to have any problem with this.
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