Poll of the Day > Spotify ripping artists

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They pay between $0.006 to $0.0084 per stream to the holder of music rights. I wouldn't quit my day job.

Any artist that's stupid enough to get ripped off by big business has already been demoted to the rank of a puppet.
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Don't most artists make their money from tours and merchandise?

Xfma100 posted...

Don't most artists make their money from tours and merchandise?

& royalties if they're popular enough. Getting started is very difficult.
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0.6 of a cent actually seems like a lot to me. If my song gets listened to only 10 times, I earn 6 cents.

IDK, that seems like it could add up pretty well if your churn out good music
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If your song is used in two youtube videos that make it to a million views... that's, like, 0 cents 'cuz youtube
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green dragon posted...

0.6 of a cent actually seems like a lot to me. If my song gets listened to only 10 times, I earn 6 cents.

IDK, that seems like it could add up pretty well if your churn out good music

Not $0.6 cents (6/10ths of a cent), $0.006 cents (6/1000ths of a cent).

Way earlier this year, someone asked Ice T about this on Twitter, like "How much do you make on Spotify?"

His answer: "0.007 cents per play. MFs figured out how to split a penny."
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It's not exactly news that streaming services are a ripoff for artists. That why a lot of bands dont put their stuff out on spotify. Most go ahead and do it though for exposure

I guess I should ask the question:
How many views does it take to make, say, $100.
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shadowsword87 posted...

I guess I should ask the question:
How many views does it take to make, say, $100.

Way more than almost any artist will ever get

DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

Not $0.6 cents (6/10ths of a cent), $0.006 cents (6/1000ths of a cent).

Oh ok, my bad, I was given faulty info by tc
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

green dragon posted...

0.6 of a cent actually seems like a lot to me. If my song gets listened to only 10 times, I earn 6 cents.

IDK, that seems like it could add up pretty well if your churn out good music

Not $0.6 cents (6/10ths of a cent), $0.006 cents (6/1000ths of a cent).

Way earlier this year, someone asked Ice T about this on Twitter, like "How much do you make on Spotify?"

His answer: "0.007 cents per play. MFs figured out how to split a penny."

They wrote it wrong. But the math on how much they make would be right. I believe 10 plays of $0.006 would equal $0.06. Which would be 6.
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shadowsword87 posted...

I guess I should ask the question:
How many views does it take to make, say, $100.

Less than 17,000 times if they are getting the low amount of $0.006. But if they are making $0.0084, than a little less than 12,000. A lot of views/listens for only $100. But if you song is awesome, and you can get millions of hits, thats a lot of money, sort of... A million would get you about $6,000-8,400 for you doing nothing. And thats only one song and a million hits. Make like 5 songs with like a few million hits each, and thats not bad...
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LinkPizza posted...

DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

green dragon posted...

0.6 of a cent actually seems like a lot to me. If my song gets listened to only 10 times, I earn 6 cents.

IDK, that seems like it could add up pretty well if your churn out good music

Not $0.6 cents (6/10ths of a cent), $0.006 cents (6/1000ths of a cent).

Way earlier this year, someone asked Ice T about this on Twitter, like "How much do you make on Spotify?"

His answer: "0.007 cents per play. MFs figured out how to split a penny."

They wrote it wrong. But the math on how much they make would be right. I believe 10 plays of $0.006 would equal $0.06. Which would be 6.

$0.006 is, again, 6/1000ths of a cent. 6/1000th multiplied by 100 isn't 6 cents, it's 6/10ths of a cent.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

LinkPizza posted...

DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

green dragon posted...

0.6 of a cent actually seems like a lot to me. If my song gets listened to only 10 times, I earn 6 cents.

IDK, that seems like it could add up pretty well if your churn out good music

Not $0.6 cents (6/10ths of a cent), $0.006 cents (6/1000ths of a cent).

Way earlier this year, someone asked Ice T about this on Twitter, like "How much do you make on Spotify?"

His answer: "0.007 cents per play. MFs figured out how to split a penny."

They wrote it wrong. But the math on how much they make would be right. I believe 10 plays of $0.006 would equal $0.06. Which would be 6.

$0.006 is, again, 6/1000ths of a cent. 6/1000th multiplied by 100 isn't 6 cents, it's 6/10ths of a cent.

0.006 is 1/1000 of a cent. $0.006 is a different amount... the dollar sign changes the amount. For example, 6 is written like this: $0.06. So writing $0.006 is 60% of a cent.

So now the question is: Is it 0.006 of a cent or $0.006?
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Wasn't there some meme where some guy thought that $ and cent sign meant the same thing? Because you're being that guy.

$0.006 is 6/10 of a cent. A cent is a hundredth of a dollar, or $0.01. You can tell it's not 6/1000 of a cent because you're using a fucking dollar sign, not a cent sign.

Now as for the actual value they get, I'm not sure, that could be wrong, but as written, it says 6/10 of a cent.

DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

$0.006 is, again, 6/1000ths of a cent.

No, it's 6 thousandths of a dollar. The unit in that figure is dollars, not cents. 6 thousandths of a cent would be expressed as "0.006 cents." Note the absence of a dollar sign. Expressed in dollars, 6 thousandths of a cent would be $0.00006.

LinkPizza posted...

A million would get you about $6,000-8,400 for you doing nothing.

Well, except for everything that went into producing the song in the first place, to say nothing of how much goes into becoming popular enough to get a million streams of a song. There's a lot of setup that goes into being able to make that kind of money off of a song, even if the actual process of making that money is relatively passive.

I swear I thought I was hitting the cent sign. -_-
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Oh. I wasnt talking about profit. I was just talking about the amount from the song. Though, tbh, they might have made the money from the song back earlier. Like from sales and stuff...
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$0.006 per play

.6 cents per play

100 plays = $6 paid to artists

Spotify subscription is $10 a month

166 plays = $10 paid to artists

Where is the rip-off? Spotify would clearly be bankrupt if this "rip-off" was true because they would be overpaying the artists. If the average song was 4 minutes long, they could only afford 10 hours of play time per month per user.
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Ok, my math was wrong.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/how-spotify-apple-music-can-pay-musicians-more-commentary.html

These days, millions of listeners flock to streaming services to enjoy music that is either advertisement-supported or subscription based. Americans listened to an average of 32 hours per week in 2017, and that number is only rising.

32 hours a week is 1920 minutes a week

1920 minutes a week / 4 = 480 songs a week

4.34524 weeks a month * 480 songs = 2085 songs a month

$12.51 monthly payout from Spotify, apparently operating at a loss. (Monthly subscription is $10)

Spotify, for example, is still losing money, despite growing 40 percent a year.

Makes sense.

This point is the real culprit.

record labels that can take as much as 70 percent of the money royalties.

And celebrity artists are still making a shitload of money. Who cares.

Nerd corner. This topic was itching my OCD.
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