Board 8 > I can still ignore preferred pronouns if they are Fae/Faer right

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I thought you were talking about just "being accepted as trans" in general.

Acceptance is neither a prescription medication nor surgical procedure. It's just treating people with respect & dignity.

3/10 trolling

You had a few people hooked, ngl, but you really fell flat towards the end.

Yeah, I'm so bad at trolling

Look at the horrible caliber of person youve attracted, plum. This is why I have to defend neopronouns because some jerk will go full dickhead.

I mean Ulti wasn't wrong, he was just overly generalizing.

what if i told you that overly generalizing is the same thing as being wrong

I mean, I suppose you guys are right, I just can't wrap my head around what a fae/faer person is trying to say they are. It literally does not compute in my mind. To me it does sound like one of those out there "I'm going through a phase" things.

Look at the horrible caliber of person youve attracted, plum. This is why I have to defend neopronouns because some jerk will go full dickhead.

"User is not currently an active member."

We did it!

Ah, yes, the absolute epitome of trying to get to a place of tolerance and acceptance... dancing on the graves of our defeated foes. I know I feel comforted by the fact that my lack of understanding could be met with my banning and cheers from others.

Ah, yes, the absolute epitome of trying to get to a place of tolerance and acceptance... dancing on the graves of our defeated foes. I know I feel comforted by the fact that my lack of understanding could be met with my banning and cheers from others.

I also think if you want a world of tolerance then you have to put up with assholes. They are not going away.

I didn't defend him at all. I thought he was an asshole, but I also think if you want a world of tolerance then you have to put up with assholes. They are not going away.

My point was it's fucking petty to gloat about someone getting banned.

I mean, for fucks sake, try be a little bit better of a person than them.

i wasn't gloating about him getting banned so i'm not sure why you're demanding that i respond to that point.

I didn't defend him at all. I thought he was an asshole, but I also think if you want a world of tolerance then you have to put up with assholes. They are not going away.

My point was it's fucking petty to gloat about someone getting banned.

I mean, for fucks sake, try be a little bit better of a person than them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Nope, assholes can fuck right off

Chris, I love you, and I am in general agreement with the sentiment of "assholes can fuck right off," but how many of us have been assholes in the past? No, let's reverse that. How many of us haven't been assholes in the past?

Celebrating someone else being punished is not and will never be seen as taking the high road, and you cannot claim a moral victory from the low road.

I was responding to someone that was doing exactly that, not you. I never typed your name, but you inserted yourself into the conversation anyway.

Why, exactly, did you decide you had to insert yourself into the conversation?

thank you for continuing his "trans people must act calmly and graciously at all times and must never express frustration or else forfeit the moral high ground above bigotry" argument in his absence that's exactly what was necessary

Who said that? I didn't. You said that. I said it's petty to gloat. Express frustration - for sure, absolutely do that. I am trying to listen to that, to understand the bullshit things others face that I have a hard time understanding. I don't get the fae/r thing and maybe sadly I never will but I'm listening and trying despite some people treating me like an asshole anyway.

I mean, for fucks sake, try be a little bit better of a person than them.

Celebrating someone else being punished is not and will never be seen as taking the high road, and you cannot claim a moral victory from the low road.

I mean, I suppose you guys are right, I just can't wrap my head around what a fae/faer person is trying to say they are. It literally does not compute in my mind. To me it does sound like one of those out there "I'm going through a phase" things.

I don't even know what it would take for this webbed site to ban a user from 2005 these days. Honestly he must have done it intentionally (whether account closure or account suicide), so I don't think anyone is celebrating a punishment per se.

Ah, yes, the absolute epitome of trying to get to a place of tolerance and acceptance... dancing on the graves of our defeated foes. I know I feel comforted by the fact that my lack of understanding could be met with my banning and cheers from others.

Even the quotes that don't contain these words still come down to It's petty to gloat. Teachers try to teach us this starting in Kindergarten. It is petty to gloat.

Ah, yes, the absolute epitome of trying to get to a place of tolerance and acceptance... dancing on the graves of our defeated foes. I know I feel comforted by the fact that my lack of understanding could be met with my banning and cheers from others.

The difference is you were questioning matters in a genuine way whereas he was only trying to stir the pot and create drama and did a terrible job at doing such.

If you were to be banned for your posts in this thread, I'd be fairly appalled and I'd vouch for you to be unbanned.

I appreciate the sentiment and I'll consider the possibility that I misjudged your intent... but fuck, man. I might not get banned, but it sure as hell feels like a lot of people would like it if I were. There are a whole lot more fuck you posts than there are keep trying to be better posts.

why he feels the need to automatically assume the worst of those people and treat them differently

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I think something that has gone unsaid is that the popular way for bigots to respond to non-binary people for the last however long is to tell us 'they/them' is unacceptable because it is plural. The use of grammatical pedantry as a way to deny someone's identity is obviously going to get under certain people's skin, and in that position, an easy way to respond is to suggest a new pronoun that doesn't have the singular/plural 'confusion' of they/them. Obviously, those bigots are then going to attack those new pronouns, because they don't actually care about grammar or language but are using it as an excuse to deny the existence of genderqueer people.