Current Events > Apparently the Moderna vaccine can cause cancer.

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

You don't look a day over 600

Lol, I suck at typing on my phone.

bnui_ransder posted...

This I can completely understand, but you see what I'm trying to say? Disregarding politics and stuff... hold on to the false claims for just a little, be skeptical and then when its proven false? Throw them in the trash.

Im more afraid of just blindly disregarding everything. We could miss something in the sea of lies.

They have been thrown in the trash. Over, and over, and over again. And yet anti-vaxxers like you keep pushing the lies, anyway.

I keep seeing the term "sea lion" ITT and all I can think of is that one mission from Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4.

Non-scientists and non-doctors arguing about clinical medicine is like watching passengers argue with the pilot how to fly the plane

Amusing but counterproductive

MarbyIsBack posted...

I keep seeing the term "sea lion" ITT and all I can think of is that one mission from Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4.

If I had a nickel for every time someone tried to use a cute animal as an unknown internet terminology phrase, I'd have two nickels. But it's weird that it happened twice

EPR-radar posted...

But personally, I think that chance is negligible. Immediately whining about it being "political" was a big tell.

I'm honestly just tired as shit about politics after trump won and its just been a spiral of bullshit

The fact that he's still even in the running is telling, but that's a landmine for another topic

bnui_ransder posted...

This I can completely understand, but you see what I'm trying to say? Disregarding politics and stuff... hold on to the false claims for just a little, be skeptical and then when its proven false? Throw them in the trash.

Im more afraid of just blindly disregarding everything. We could miss something in the sea of lies.

Like I said upthread, the professionals are already on this. For example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_Adverse_Event_Reporting_System

If TC's anecdote is real (LOL), it's been reported and will be evaluated by people who know what the fuck they are doing.

bnui_ransder posted...

This I can completely understand, but you see what I'm trying to say? Disregarding politics and stuff... hold on to the false claims for just a little, be skeptical and then when its proven false? Throw them in the trash.

Im more afraid of just blindly disregarding everything. We could miss something in the sea of lies.

So what about anecdotes where the vaccine cured someone's cancer or ED?

NightingaleMD posted...

Non-scientists and non-doctors arguing about clinical medicine is like watching passengers argue with the pilot how to fly the plane

Amusing but counterproductive

Not quite.

It's more like people posting facts a vast majority of doctors and scientists have agreed upon, vs. anti-vaxxers refusing this and continually pushing lies.

Wonder why you are pretending this isn't the case...

EPR-radar posted...

Like I said upthread, the professionals are already on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_Adverse_Event_Reporting_System

If TC's anecdote is real (LOL), it's been reported and will be evaluated by people who know what the fuck they are doing.

I missed it trying to explain I'm not an anti-vaxx dumbass, just a dumbass

NightingaleMD posted...

Non-scientists and non-doctors arguing about clinical medicine is like watching passengers argue with the pilot how to fly the plane

Amusing but counterproductive

I always associated it more with how Charles (Xavier) and Magneto (Genosha) would argue about mutants and humans living together possible or not

https://youtu.be/B-5tMPInetg?t=176

Revisited posted...

If I had a nickel for every time someone tried to use a cute animal as an unknown internet terminology phrase, I'd have two nickels. But it's weird that it happened twice

It's a pretty well-known term on boards that have a lot of political debate. It's an established term, not something we made up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

WingsOfGood posted...

So what about anecdotes where the vaccine cured someone's cancer or ED?

That's great, common sense.

Did this really happen? Makes you wonder how ED, if I'm assuming correctly, would be connected.

Never heard anything about cancer cured though, so I'm off to search now

Lots of fear mongering here

bnui_ransder posted...

I missed it trying to explain I'm not an anti-vaxx dumbass

If you're somebody who regularly pushes anti-vax talking points, like you do... You're, effectively, anti-vax.

So, uh... Stop being anti-vax.

Kradek posted...

It's a pretty well-known term on boards that have a lot of political debate. It's an established term, not something we made up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

Never heard of it before and had to Google it when accused because I usually avoid politics

I heard from newsmax that moderna contains luciferase

proof that all vaccines are satanic

bnui_ransder posted...

Never heard of it before and had to Google it when accused because I usually avoid politics

There's a neat cartoon illustration that really puts it into perspective, I'd post here here for ya, however this site fucking sucks when it comes to posting images and I'd rather not bother with the hassle. When you google it, though, it's there off to the right. An old timey looking cartoon.

bnui_ransder posted...

Makes you wonder how ED, if I'm assuming correctly, would be connected.

More surprising than cancer via too much protein?

So found an article published April of last year

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10119533/

We have reviewed sixteen case reports of COVID-19 disease with spontaneous cancer reduction of progression. Fourteen cases of remission following viral infections and two after anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. The immune response to COVID-19, may be implicated in both tumor regression, and progression. Specifically, we discuss potential mechanisms which include oncolytic and priming hypotheses, that may have contributed to the cancer regression in these cases and could be useful for future options in cancer treatment.

That could be HUGE and I'm surprised I never heard anything about that but I also wasnt actively searching. Imagine if they find the missing link through the vaccines to be able to beat cancer

WingsOfGood posted...

More surprising than cancer via too much protein?

I dont know shit so my immediate reaction was bringing up my uneducated fears

bnui_ransder posted...

Imagine if they find the missing link through the vaccines to be able to beat cancer

There is infact progress to cancer cures via MRna payloads (tech the vaccines used).
Will anti-vaxxers rather die of cancer than take it?

WingsOfGood posted...

There is infact progress to cancer cures via MRna payloads (tech the vaccines used).
Will anti-vaxxers rather die of cancer than take it?

They were dumb enough to eat horse paste

bnui_ransder posted...

I'm surprised I never heard anything about that

That would be because by and large there isn't a big need to spread such things. Most people don't feel the need to "prove" vaccines are good but there are plenty that feel the need to "prove" they are harmful to prey on uneducated fears.

GranAures posted...

That would be because by and large there isn't a big need to spread such things. Most people don't feel the need to "prove" vaccines are good but there are plenty that feel the need to "prove" they are harmful to prey on uneducated fears.

And its looking like I fell for the TCs bait, and I took all the heat instead

bnui_ransder posted...

And its looking like I fell for the TCs bait, and I took all the heat instead

That is why tc hasn't posted

bnui_ransder posted...

They were dumb enough to eat horse paste

And you were one of the ones posting "Hold on guys we don't know it doesn't work"

Dudebusters posted...

And you were one of the ones posting "Hold on guys we don't know it doesn't work"

No, I wasn't. I probably said something stupid like "at least it's apple flavored I guess"

your cellphone is more likely to give you cancer and you are probably using it to post that

EPR-radar posted...

If it is a normal person instead of a sea lion, then perhaps they will learn from this how to not come across as a sea lion.

"You were attacked unfairly, hope you've learned your lesson" just comes across as shitty.

bnui_ransder posted...

This I can completely understand, but you see what I'm trying to say? Disregarding politics and stuff... hold on to the false claims for just a little, be skeptical and then when its proven false? Throw them in the trash.

Im more afraid of just blindly disregarding everything. We could miss something in the sea of lies.

The problem is that the scare stories have cost lives and prolonged the pandemic. Many, many more lives than the adverse events, by a huge factor.

And their spread has been entirely politically motivated, so any plea to ignore politics is misplaced.

Adverse events are investigated and researched. And those findings go ignored by those with a political anti vax agenda: we are still hearing the old lies over and over again.

Guide posted...

I know it looks like a sealion, but, like... it's not necessarily a sealion. This can totally blow up in my face later, but I think the slim chance is enough to be uncomfortable about attacking someone.

Maybe if he'd backed it up with any kind of science, data, or even some link to a news story from a not completely sus website.

OP is literally being told by Jo Blow that her doctor said something to her. I can't imagine that someone who's just been diagnosed with cancer is going to be able to rationally and accurately filter and then repeat the cause of her diagnosis for another layman to understand.

There's not enough credibility in OP to take it at anything better than well-meaning misinformation at best, and outright antivax disinformation at worst.

DnDer posted...

Maybe if he'd backed it up with any kind of science, data, or even some link to a news story from a not completely sus website.

OP is literally being told by Jo Blow that her doctor said something to her. I can't imagine that someone who's just been diagnosed with cancer is going to be able to rationally and accurately filter and then repeat the cause of her diagnosis for another layman to understand.

There's not enough credibility in OP to take it at anything better than well-meaning misinformation at best, and outright antivax disinformation at worst.

Oh, no, excuse me, I meant the other guy. OP posted once and ran, that's a different story.

EPR-radar posted...

Like I said upthread, the professionals are already on this. For example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_Adverse_Event_Reporting_System

If TC's anecdote is real (LOL), it's been reported and will be evaluated by people who know what the fuck they are doing.

Even if it's not real, it's probably also in VAERS. Because the the database has some... issues... to be generous about it.

MarbyIsBack posted...

[citation needed]

He literally gave you a citation. A random woman told him.

85 posts for this dump and run troll huh?

Atralis posted...

You don't trust "this lady at work"?

Her husband works at Nintendo.

There is a Moderna vaccine for cancer.

Did someone get confused?

Not an antivaxxer but I saw the Moderna vaccine at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didnt want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, Oh, like youre doing now?

I was taken aback, and all I could say was Huh? but he kept cutting me off and going huh? huh? huh? and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like Sir, you need to pay for those first. At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually to prevent any electrical infetterence, and then turned around and winked at me. I dont even think thats a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.