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cjsdowg
04/29/24 2:52:30 PM
#301:


LightningThief posted...
Yet, that has nothing to do with Cjsdowgs claim and disingenuous spin that abortion and other non Israel issues he brought under Biden.

As there's absolutely no point in bringing up "its happening under his watch" as if he did it, supported it, or had the power to stop it.

But I understand your entire agenda is to spin and pivot.

There is no spin in my fucking true statement. You guys say oh you can complain about Biden no one is saying you can't and bullshit like that. Then you get upset when people make a true statement.


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hockeybabe89
04/29/24 2:55:30 PM
#302:


cjsdowg posted...
There is no spin in my fucking true statement. You guys say oh you can complain about Biden no one is saying you can't and bullshit like that. Then you get upset when people make a true statement.
Then blame Biden, bud. Instead of claiming you're just stating real events that happened to occur while Biden was in office. You're clearly making an implication, so no need to treat us like idiots.

You can't even keep it straight. You just called it a complaint after telling us you weren't saying Biden is responsible.

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Yazarogi
04/29/24 3:54:02 PM
#303:


darkphoenix181 posted...
What happened in post #291?
means that user blocked you. Probably CDowg

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cjsdowg
04/29/24 4:09:56 PM
#304:


hockeybabe89 posted...
You can't even keep it straight. You just called it a complaint after telling us you weren't saying Biden is responsible.

I am keeping straight. I pointing that you guys say people can complain about Biden. And yet when someone literally makes a true statement about him you take issue.

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Euripides
04/29/24 4:17:13 PM
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Yazarogi posted...
means that user blocked you. Probably CDowg

No, it's deleted

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LightningThief
04/29/24 4:22:54 PM
#306:


cjsdowg posted...
There is no spin in my fucking true statement. You guys say oh you can complain about Biden no one is saying you can't and bullshit like that. Then you get upset when people make a true statement.
You are spinning. It's a fucking disingenuous statement you made.

It was a discussion those things (non Israel issues) would be far worse under Trump/Republicans, and that Republicans are pushing those things. Democrats are not pushing those things and actually pushing to reverse many of those things. Yet you thought it was a good rebuttal to say things like abortion is going backwards under Biden.

You said what you said because your rebuttal earlier in this topic to your "both sides the same" bs was pointing out things like abortion and etc wouldn't be better under Biden/Democrats because "its happening under Biden." As if those things are happening because of Biden, or as if Biden can stop those things, or as if he support those things.

You are being disingenuous pretending you didn't just say what you said as if you weren't trying to both sides the same the conversation in a roundabout way. As usual.
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cjsdowg
04/29/24 4:30:59 PM
#307:


LightningThief posted...
You are spinning. It's a fucking disingenuous statement you made.

You said what you said because your rebuttal earlier in this topic to your "both sides the same" bs was pointing out things like abortion and etc wouldn't be better under Biden/Democrats because "its happening under Biden." As if those things are happening because of Biden, or as if Biden can stop those things, or as if he support those things.

The truth is this stuff has happened under Biden, things for many people are literally getting worse. And in place of complaining about any Dems. The same Dems who get up on stage and say things like how much they love Reagan and how we need a strong Republican party. You complain at the people who point the horrible shit that is going on. And you keep saying oh you are "disingenuous", that is fucking bull shit and I am sick of you saying it. Just because I point out a truth that makes you feel bad.

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LightningThief
04/29/24 4:32:43 PM
#308:


cjsdowg posted...
The truth is this stuff has happened under Biden, things for many people are literally getting worse. And in place of complaining about any Dems. The same Dems who get up on stage and say things like how much they love Reagan and how we need a strong Republican party. You complain at the people who point the horrible shit that is going on. And you keep saying oh you are "disingenuous", that is fucking bull shit and I am sick of you saying it. Just because I point out a truth that makes you feel bad.
A truth that is disingenuous to say. Those things are not happening because of Democrats or Biden. They are happening because of Republicans and Trump.

You are aware of that, yet disingenuously parade its happening under Biden.

The only bull shit is your spin.
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DrizztLink
04/29/24 4:34:10 PM
#309:


cjsdowg posted...
The truth is this stuff has happened under Biden
Do you understand the American political system?

Like, at all?

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cjsdowg
04/29/24 4:38:06 PM
#310:


LightningThief posted...
A truth that is disingenuous to say. Those things are not happening because of Democrats or Biden. They are happening because of Republicans and Trump.

You are aware of that, yet disingenuously parade its happening under Biden.

The only bull shit is your spin.

I have literally blamed Republicans for it. Hell even in this very topic . How is that spin.


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Nok_Su_Kow
04/29/24 4:38:43 PM
#311:


cjsdowg posted...
I am keeping straight. I pointing that you guys say people can complain about Biden. And yet when someone literally makes a true statement about him you take issue.

"Under Biden's watch!"
"I'm not blaming Biden!"
"I can't complain about Biden!"

You're being ridiculous.
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Yazarogi
04/29/24 4:47:22 PM
#312:


Oh ok I just say that because if CJ is saying anything recently like on post 291 I cant see it. Usually I can see deleted user message I thought

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Deej
04/29/24 4:50:56 PM
#313:


DrizztLink posted...
Do you understand the American political system?

Like, at all?
I'm guessing no

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cjsdowg
04/29/24 4:53:05 PM
#314:


Deej posted...
I'm guessing no

And like you are with most things, you would be wrong.

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Shadow_Don
04/29/24 4:59:57 PM
#315:


cjsdowg posted...
I have literally blamed Republicans for it. Hell even in this very topic . How is that spin.

Its not that you arent blaming Republicans

The problem is when we talk about the potential consequences of another trump presidency you respond with "roe was overturned under biden"

The point and the implications here is that it doesn't matter if its a dem or a republican in the WH with respect to lgbt or women's rights.

But thats totally absurd and disingenuous. If Hillary had won we know for a fact that roe would not have been overturned and Republicans wouldn't have the greenlight to attack the lgbt communities without their SC as they are doing now.. You're just gaslighting those communities into giving up electoral power. Its so gross.

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hockeybabe89
04/29/24 6:15:41 PM
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My dog permanently damaged my hand while Trump was in office.

See how that makes it sound like Trump is responsible for my hand?

@cjsdowg You can't have it both ways. You can't say you aren't blaming Biden for Roe's death and then turn around and lament how you aren't allowed to complain about Roe being overturned on Biden's watch.

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divot1338
04/29/24 6:31:02 PM
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On the subject of dogs I have to say that Commander was absolutely correct. Weird people were always standing too close and watching his human.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c0982bdf.jpg

I guarantee the Secret Service agent who got bit made the first aggressive move.

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Ubergeneral3
04/29/24 6:53:11 PM
#318:


It's the same for both presidents. Neither of them are really going to do anything other than give a scolding from biden and a pat of the back from trump.

Historians won't care about this difference they aren't doing anything to stop it.

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Paragon21XX
04/29/24 7:00:18 PM
#319:


divot1338 posted...
On the subject of dogs I have to say that Commander was absolutely correct. Weird people were always standing too close and watching his human.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c0982bdf.jpg

I guarantee the Secret Service agent who got bit made the first aggressive move.
Nope. You might have a case in a one-off incident, but after 24 biting incidents, Biden obviously didn't socialize Commander at all.

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nocturnal_traveler
04/29/24 7:43:12 PM
#320:


Ubergeneral3 posted...
It's the same for both presidents. Neither of them are really going to do anything other than give a scolding from biden and a pat of the back from trump.

Historians won't care about this difference they aren't doing anything to stop it.
If history is anything to go by, neither are going to be mentioned for what they did or didn't do regarding Israel. Only what they did or didn't do for America.

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WingsOfGood
04/29/24 9:56:27 PM
#321:


Diceheist posted...
I'm referring to how Bernie complained about money in politics, corporate welfare, a weakening social safety net, warmongering, waves of people losing their health coverage during a national pandemic because it was tied to jobs lost during lockdown, destructive voting records, etc. but people just collectively decided his complaints weren't serious enough to justify a political revolution.

I think many saw Bernie as too radical infact rather than that his complaints weren't serious enough.

Perhaps if housing keeps climbing people will remember what Bernie fought for and that it was just right.
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WingsOfGood
04/30/24 11:38:41 AM
#322:


Shadow_Don posted...
The problem is when we talk about the potential consequences of another trump presidency you respond with "roe was overturned under biden"

I saw an article today about the Supreme court was 1 vote away from ending our democracy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/legal-experts-shameful-supreme-court-puts-us-one-vote-away-from-the-end-of-democracy/ar-AA1nRWLC
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wanderingshade
04/30/24 1:20:26 PM
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And they said it can't happen here.

Okay, so it's a book by Sinclar Lewis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here

And it does indeed appear to be happening here.

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