Board 8 > Favorite Ace Attorney fourth case?

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A wide variety here!

2-4 > 1-4 > 3-4 > G2-4 > E2-4 > 5-4 > L-4 > 4-4 > E1-4 > 6-4 > G1-4

Maybe? The top three are set in stone. The rest, not so much.

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Oh dammit, I voted Turnabout Beginnings by accident, I meant Farewell, My Turnabout.

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2-4 is the best case in the entire series.

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KamikazePotato posted...

2-4 is the best case in the entire series.

This right here

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KamikazePotato posted...

2-4 is the best case in the entire series.

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Anyway, this is kinda mucky since some games have the epic case as case 4, and some games have kind of a prologue to the epic case as case 4. I would have just put all the epic cases together and made a separate poll for stuff like 3-4 and E1-4.

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1-4 and 2-4 blow everything else out of the water. Which makes sense, considering after that most fourth cases were used as lead-ins for epic cases and the few later closers (4-4 and L-4) have some huge issues.

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I feel bad for E2-4 because it's some real good shit, but it's gonna get dumpstered on here, given its competition.

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Farewell , My Turnabout is going to win this very easily, but this is a very strong set even when you limit it to the non-finales. There is not a weak case among them!

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Underleveled posted...

Anyway, this is kinda mucky since some games have the epic case as case 4, and some games have kind of a prologue to the epic case as case 4. I would have just put all the epic cases together and made a separate poll for stuff like 3-4 and E1-4.

Yeah, swap 1-4 and 2-4 out for 1-5 to make this much more interesting!
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I think it's fun to split the epic cases up because they always get grouped together in case polls

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For some reason I really don't remember 2-4 as much as 1-4.

Gotta replay the old ones again when I'm done with 6.

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One of these cases is above 2-4 on my tier ranking, and another is ~tied, though when I replayed the series recently to make a ranking, 2-4 did jump up a fair amount from the initial spot I had it in.


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MrSmartGuy posted...

I feel bad for E2-4 because it's some real good shit, but it's gonna get dumpstered on here, given its competition.

E2-4 is legitimately good and has a fantastic villain.

The problem the AAI games have in general is simple though: Their high points just don't match the high points of the AA series. The best Edgeworth cases are candidates for upper tier, but they're not in any discussion for the best cases of the series. I feel like that holds it back for a lot of people.

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E2-3 is the best non-epic case in the series.

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E2-3 isn't even the best non-epic case in it's own game~

Well ok, I have it and 4 pretty close to each other I will say.

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LeonhartFour posted...

E2-3 is the best non-epic case in the series.

That's a weird way to say 5-6

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Hrm

1-4 > 2-4 > 3-4 > E1-4 > E2-4 > 6-4 > L-4 > 4-4 > 5-4

Or something? None of them are bad, though 4-4 obviously has some issues and I don't even consider 5-4 to be a full case.

The top three are all amazing

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hombad46 posted...

That's a weird way to say 5-6

5-6 isn't even the best non-epic case in its own game

DD has a pretty high average case quality though

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LordoftheMorons posted...

I don't even consider 5-4 to be a full case

5-4 gets an unfair rap for this and I think it gets penalized in a lot of people's minds for it, but I really like what they did with this case. Cosmos is a top tier witness, and it has legit one of the most shocking ends of a case in the series.

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I will say though - There is one case I objectively know I have a fair bit higher than it "belongs", but I just really like the case and that's a factor too, so I don't care.

If I ever did a rankings topic, I'd get bombarded by people for putting it as high as I do. I'm sure of it~

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LeonhartFour posted...

5-4 gets an unfair rap for this and I think it gets penalized in a lot of people's minds for it, but I really like what they did with this case. Cosmos is a top tier witness, and it has legit one of the most shocking ends of a case in the series.

5-4 is a perfect set up case, but is also a fair self-contained case in it's own right. It's a non-epic case 4 - The series has 3 of them, and they're all 1-day trails that last a fairly long time. I don't see why it should be "punished" for being roughly the same.

I find 3-4 is one of the hardest cases in the entire series to judge though. I have a lot of both positive and negative feelings about it.

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as long as it's not 4-3 I wouldn't object much

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Also 3-4 is amazing. Legit top ten case.

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4-3 actually ticked up slightly for me!

...Trust me, it isn't saying much, but...

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A lot of other fun case 4s, but 1 and 2 clearly stand above. I was thinking about this a lot today, about how I'd choose between them. 1 and 2 have two of my favourite moments ever in a videogame - the metal detector and the hair flip - and those are the moments I always think about when comparing them.

But I think I give the slightest edge to 1-4 because of MvK. He's one of my favourite gaming villains.
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who voted for L-4

Crescent-Moon posted...

5-4 is a perfect set up case, but is also a fair self-contained case in it's own right. It's a non-epic case 4 - The series has 3 of them, and they're all 1-day trails that last a fairly long time. I don't see why it should be "punished" for being roughly the same.

I very much disagree that it's self-contained! It's certainly less self-contained than the first part of 6-5.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Also 3-4 is amazing. Legit top ten case.

The case never brings me to empathize or sympathize with Terry, ever. The weakness of it's defendant hurt the entire case - Especially being super creepy and pedo later in the case. Terry Fawles creeps me out.

I found it hard to get into the case early on, because I just didn't care about the defendant, and partly because 3-1 already spoiled in multiple ways that the case is going to go horribly wrong. Then, even when I cared about the case, which was built cleverly from the ground up, despite very little actual evidence, I still didn't care about the defendant. He is unlikable, and his death, which was supposed to be impactful, totally missed the mark with me.

3-4 could've been an easy high tier case with a better defendant. Instead it's probably my most conflicted case in the entire series. No matter where I put it, it doesn't feel right. That's why I eventually just stuck in right in the middle and stopped thinking about it.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

I very much disagree that it's self-contained! It's certainly less self-contained than the first part of 6-5.

I actually wasn't even counting 6-5.

I ranked the two halves of 6-5 separately. They're two outright separate cases to me.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

I very much disagree that it's self-contained! It's certainly less self-contained than the first part of 6-5.

5-4 ended with a "Not Guilty" verdict. It also ended me pondering whether Simon, who was sure Starbuck was guilty, was "the only sane man" in the room.

It gave a Not Guilty verdict and made me wonder if that Not Guilty verdict was incorrect. It did a good enough job.

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6-5 is two cases in a trenchcoat

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Paratroopa1 posted...

who voted for L-4

magic truly does exist

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Hbthebattle posted...

6-5 is two cases in a trenchcoat

It's the world's most giant case

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6-5 feels more like two cases than 5-4 and 5-5 do
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I voted for 6-4 as a joke. Anyway, here go the real rankings:

2-4 > 1-4 > 3-4 > E1-4 > 5-4 > L-4 > 4-4 > 6-4

2-4 is rightfully praised as the saving grace of Justice for All. Pretty much perfect.

1-4 is the real reason people fall in love with this series. 1-3 sets the groundwork for "twists" while 1-4 lays the foundation for the series' emotional payoffs.

3-4 is also ridiculously good and is the perfect "lead-in to epic case" that 5-4 and 6-5 (first day) both emulate (to varying degrees of success). Maybe the most emotional moment in the series.

E1-4 is the prequel case right? With young Miles and Mack Rell, the worst and worst-named character in the series? If so it's a bright spot from E1.

5-4 is 3-4 except awkward. DD's storytelling and pacing is just plain weird sometimes. The characters are fine it's just the whole thing feels "off" somehow.

L-4 is where I start forgetting the game. I have no idea if this is the last case in the game or what. Regardless, it doesn't really matter, as L-3 is the high point of the game and it kind of sucks after that.

4-4 woof. This case just made me feel bad for existing or caring about the series. I can at least see how this game would've worked if Hobonix was a completely new character. A failed experiment. I like Vera though!

6-4 - unfortunate that this is really Athena's only case, as it's such obvious filler. It's actually kind of funny (Athena and Simon try their best to salvage this trainwreck), but it's just so culturally niche. It's better than the dregs of 2-3 and 4-3 but it's probably the third worst case.

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colliding posted...

E1-4 is the prequel case right? With young Miles and Mack Rell, the worst and worst-named character in the series?

hey now Mack Rell isn't even the worst named character in that case!

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LeonhartFour posted...

hey now Mack Rell isn't even the worst named character in that case!

you're right. I completely forgot about the dead man

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although I'd say Romein LeTouse is still the worst name in the series because it's not even clever or relevant to the character in any way, it's just a dumb name for the sake of a dumb name

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Deid Mann and Rheel Neh'mu are hilarious and I wouldn't have their names be anything else

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hey now I won't have anyone besmirching Rheel Neh'mu or any of the Khura'in names

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Inga's full name is the worst one

It's dumb enough as is, but using it on an actual character is unforgivable!

Also 6-4 is good

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6-4 is the Rakugo one, right?

Worst case in the entire series. IIRC when I was posting about it here while playing I was actually getting legitimately angry about how bad it was, like it was actually pissing me off that they made it at all.

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I can't really ding 5-4 too much for not feeling like a complete case, when G2-4 is a much worse offender about it. That one felt like it was split up to signify a tone change, since G2-4 ended after the second investigation day.

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Mewtwo59 posted...

I can't really ding 5-4 too much for not feeling like a complete case, when G2-4 is a much worse offender about it. That one felt like it was split up to signify a tone change, since G2-4 ended after the second investigation day.

oh yeah that one felt more arbitrary than 5-4 because at least 5-4's signified the end of a case

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LOL the two people that voted for 6-4
What a horrible case

Anyway
2-4 > 1-4 > 3-4 > E2-4 > The rest > 5-4 > 6-4
1-4 and 2-4 are totally dominating the poll so 3-4 and E2-4 don't get the love they deserve sadly

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KamikazePotato posted...

2-4 is the best case in the entire series.

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6-4 is awesome

Voted 2-4, it's great, everyone knows it's great. Didn't even think about which to vote for here.

But I do think 6-4 is very solid! I feel like it gets back to the tighter murder mysteries of the original trilogy, and watching Athena and Simon treat Nahyuta like the clown he is ("Never!") is great. Terrible defendant but at least he's not that important.

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yeah it's gotta be 2-4 here, with 1-4 hot on its heels, and then everything else just miles away

for the rest i might go E1-4 > 3-4 > E2-4 > L-4, 4-4, 5-4, 6-4 in some unimportant order
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