Poll of the Day > How do you stop a loved one from spending so much on F2P games?

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Man, I thought spending about 350 or so was bad, but I found out that a friend of mine has spent almost 20k when he used to play Puzzles & Dragons, and is spending thousands a month on that anime Breath of the Wild game.
I tried talking to him about it, but he lives alone, doesn't do shit except hang out with another friend of mine(I no longer live near them), and play that anime Breath game and Weiss.(some kind of card game with anime people) He doesn't make that much(around 40k living in downtown LA), but he has so little expenses that he's kind of rolling in dough.

He refuses to stop or even lessen his gacha because he doesn't have any expenses, but it's kind of painful watching a close friend throw his money away like this.
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if he's fine with it then it's none of your business what he does

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helIy posted...

if he's fine with it then it's none of your business what he does

If he's fine being an alcoholic, it's none of your business what he does

If he's fine being a meth addict, it's none of your business what he does

If he's fine with cutting himself, it's none of your business what he does

You must be a very awesome friend, lol.
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helIy posted...

it's none of your business what he does

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You're a shittyass friend and a human being in general if you're going to let someone walk down a destructive path like that. Also, you can't cheat on a relationship that wasn't real. When are you going to grow some brain cells and understand that concept?
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no, to every single one of those things

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You talked to him about it and he is okay with his choices. He isnt hurting anyone. Grow up. Live your own life.

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Stage an intervention

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I mean this can be a problem, but I think it only becomes a major one if it is impacting the rest of his life. You might think, "Wow, $3000 what a huge waste of money!" While that might be accurate depending on his responsibilities the money might just be wasted elsewhere.

What's the difference from him spending $3000 there or on some other hobby or going out to eat or something?

It's not like if you stopped him from spending that money he would then either start saving it or investing it in something.

I've spent thousands on a mobile app lmaooo

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I wish I had thousands to spend on my hobbies

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You say it's his own disposable income. What do you think he should be spending it on? And why do you think what you want him to spend it on is more valid that what he wants to spend it on?

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Allow them. Their body, their choice.

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This is NOT the website for finding advice on this topic, lol.

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lmao, exactly

what should he spend his money on, and why do you think it's okay to decide that for him

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most everyone would argue the idiot in the topic is the one thinking they have a right to tell someone else what to do with their money

but, y'know, it's to be expected of that guy since he frequently makes questionably moral choices

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Too much is above zero

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helIy posted...

most everyone would argue the idiot in the topic is the one thinking they have a right to tell someone else what to do with their money

but, y'know, it's to be expected of that guy since he frequently makes questionably moral choices

See? This is the problem. You lack the basic brain power to understand simple concepts, lol. Trying to talk someone out of self destructive behavior isn't thinking that "I have a right to tell someone else what to do with their money."

Like seriously, you obviously can't even form the most basic ideas so why are you trying to argue with people?
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Dont agree with me? It is clear you possess puny brain, this is evidence. I am smart.

dude when you do this it is seriously the most r/iamverysmart cringe ass shit

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All you really can do is express concern/point out consequences he might not have realized and offer support if he asks for it. Unless he actually wants to get over his spending habits, trying to force him to change something he doesn't see as a problem is only going to generate resentment and drive them away, which actually increases the risk that they won't be able to recover from their problem if they do get to the point of wanting help.

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Imagine spending thousands on Genshin lol.

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Zareth posted...

Imagine spending thousands on Genshin lol.

the dude earns his money, he gets to spend it where he wants

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lihlih posted...

See? This is the problem. You lack the basic brain power to understand simple concepts, lol. Trying to talk someone out of self destructive behavior isn't thinking that "I have a right to tell someone else what to do with their money."

Like seriously, you obviously can't even form the most basic ideas so why are you trying to argue with people?

as long as they're actually covering necessary expenses just fine (and you said that they are), then it's not self destructive behavior.

you trying to control what someone does with their money is destructive behavior since it demonstrates extreme narcissism in thinking that you actually have that right when you do not

it's his money, he's doing fine and is happy with his choices.

it's straight up no different to constantly buying new games, watching every new movie as soon as they release, whatever other type of hobby you can think of, etcetera


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Buy the company and shut it down?

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lihlih posted...

Trying to talk someone out of self destructive behavior isn't thinking that "I have a right to tell someone else what to do with their money."

just spending all your money on a gacha isn't inherently self-destructive behavior, though

it's if it actively puts them in debt or something

i have a friend that throws hundreds at genshin every time a new character comes out but it's one of her only money hobbies and helps her cope with her terrible job, so why the fuck am i a terrible friend for not telling her to spend it on thirty steam games she's never play vs one anime boy she'll be obsessed with for weeks

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I mean you could make the same argument for gambling, my former stepdad has probably blown $10's of thousands on gambling over the past 50ish years. He bet's in extremely small amounts and makes enough money to make it not a huge issue, but he bets often.

It has never impacted him financially in the grand scheme though, sure that money could have been used for something better but he always had more than enough money for things that mattered.

So like anything it becomes a problem when the person is sacrificing major things that he needs for it or forgoing responsibilities like paying for his young son on needed expenses or borrowing/stealing money just to give it to gacha games.

Did he ever answer what he thinks his friend should be spending spare money on that he approves of?

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Honestly kind of surprised people here are all okay with spending thousands a month on mobile gambling. It definitely sounds like more than TC's friend can afford.

Devs want you to believe that whales are all spoiled rich people who can afford it, but most of them are just normal people suffering from mental health issues.

But PotDs the wrong place to come with personal issues.

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Why do you need to stop him? You said that he has very little expenses (that hes still paying), and its basically disposable income. And hes using it for something he likes. If hes asking for help, thats different. But if hes not, then it should be fine Hes having fun. And no one in getting hurt And his bills are getting paid. Everything seems fine
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You don't.
You never truly quit anything.

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What's self-destructive about his behavior? You said yourself he's "kinda rolling in dough." He's comfortable with his life, meeting his own needs, paying his bills. Not everyone wants to live frugally and save every penny, or seeks to acquire wealth. Some people are happy to live a relatively "meager" lifestyle. If he's happy, leave him alone.

Your bullshit "if he's fine being an alcoholic..." argument holds no water because by your own admission he's happy and taking care of his expenditures. People who need interventions are people who are no longer able to care for themselves, or are putting themselves in some sort of danger with their behavior. You've made no indication that your friend has any such trouble.

Sounds to me like you're a shittyass friend who doesn't respect his friends decisions and oversteps their boundaries trying to run their life for them.

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Jen0125 posted...

Did he ever answer what he thinks his friend should be spending spare money on that he approves of?

This is a guy who thinks it's a real kneeslapper to trick your kids into thinking they ate a puppy. Not exactly a Mensa candidate

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Blighboy posted...

It definitely sounds like more than TC's friend can afford.

Where does it seem like that? Based on what TC says I don't see anything like that.

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Jen0125 posted...

Where does it seem like that? Based on what TC says I don't see anything like that.

40k - 2k*12 - other expenses

I dont know the source of his friends apparent other money or why his other expenses are allegedly low, TC should know better than me or anyone else. But the vast majority of people couldn't afford that, and I don't think most people would admit that they're spending unsustainably to others until it's too late.

If he's theoretically rich, then whatever, but I find it hard to believe based on my knowledge of whales.

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Jen0125 posted...

Where does it seem like that? Based on what TC says I don't see anything like that.

Not to mention, we don't have any real figures. Just TCs baseless allegations. I doubt he's spending any where near what TC is claiming.

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Blighboy posted...

Honestly kind of surprised people here are all okay with spending thousands a month on mobile gambling. It definitely sounds like more than TC's friend can afford.

Devs want you to believe that whales are all spoiled rich people who can afford it, but most of them are just normal people suffering from mental health issues.

But PotDs the wrong place to come with personal issues.

Even if it is more than he can afford, you can't just "stop" him from doing it, any more than you can "stop" an alcoholic friend from drinking. You can (and should) express concern and provide support as appropriate, but the desire to get better ultimately has to come from them. It's not something you can force.

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Oh absolutely, you can't just lock him in a room. If it's really destructive, at a certain point you would just need to cut them out of your life (obviously it's nowhere close to that point yet).

But I would also be very concerned if I knew someone in that situation. But it depends on his friends finances which nobody in this topic (possibly even TC) have an understanding of.

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Blighboy posted...

40k - 2k*12 - other expenses

I dont know the source of his friends apparent other money or why his other expenses are allegedly low, TC should know better than me or anyone else. But the vast majority of people couldn't afford that, and I don't think most people would admit that they're spending unsustainably to others until it's too late.

If he's theoretically rich, then whatever, but I find it hard to believe based on my knowledge of whales.

I mean, we can assume. But thats about all. According to TC, hes expenses are low enough that hes somehow rolling in dough at 40k a year or whatever. We cant just say he cant afford it. According to TC, he can
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Blighboy posted...

40k - 2k*12 - other expenses

I dont know the source of his friends apparent other money or why his other expenses are allegedly low, TC should know better than me or anyone else. But the vast majority of people couldn't afford that, and I don't think most people would admit that they're spending unsustainably to others until it's too late.

If he's theoretically rich, then whatever, but I find it hard to believe based on my knowledge of whales.

It's entirely possible he lives frugally and budgets money for this.


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malaria

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Its also possible that this guy is spending like $40 a month on this game and TC is mad that he is getting less attention from his friend so he is telling stories

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When I played marvel puzzle quest we had a dude in our alliance who was a part of some extremely wealthy Saudi Arabian family, allegedly anyways. He was spending thousands of dollars every day, we could see it, and according to him easily into the 6 figures each month

it was pretty cool because for a f2p game we were all getting bonuses for his purchases so it helped us all out

I hope Shake N Bake is still doing their thing

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I have spent low thousands on a mobile game and my finances are totally fine lmao it's not impossible for normies to do

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Mead posted...

it was pretty cool because for a f2p game we were all getting bonuses for his purchases so it helped us all out

I remember playing a game like that. Everybody got gifts when people bought stuff based on the amount we spent. So, we all bought a little to help each other out...
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I think it's totally dumb but when I worked for a mobile game studio those whales were responsible for my salary, so god bless them.

https://youtu.be/wAEfeNLKwd0

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I think I spent like 80 bucks over a year of playing Dragalia Lost

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acesxhigh posted...

I think it's totally dumb but when I worked for a mobile game studio those whales were responsible for my salary, so god bless them.

Yw bb

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I have probably played 100's of free-to-play games in the last 20 years, and I can probably count on one hand the amount of times I have actually spent any money on them. I am probably their most hated player because I will literally play the same game for years, doing the "free" content and never spend a dime. LOL

That said, I probably spend $1K a month on cam girls, so I am not going to judge people who do pay on mobile games.

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There is a legit good f2p flying under the radar right now called Dicey Elementalist

its a legit good roguelike, all the micro transaction bullshit is there but never feels very necessary aside from a little bit at the beginning

its basically a turn based yahtzee RPG deck builder, and your dice are what fuels your card playing abilities instead of the usual mana or points or whatever, some spells will require certain combinations of dice or something like two pair or whatever

Ive played it a ton and only spent around $10 total to unlock the other characters and a permanent resource boost

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