Poll of the Day > What do you guys think about people's lives being ruined over an accusation?

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lihlih
09/30/21 12:40:08 PM
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You know, when a person's life is ruined because someone accused them of sexual assault/rape, etc... when they haven't even been found guilty yet?

I do think that the accusations need to be taken seriously, but look at stuff like the McMartin family. Their lives were ruined, people burnt down their preschool, etc... and they found out that they didn't even do anything. Like that's pretty fucked up.

When the accusations are real, then that's a whole different story. Like Panda Global waited until they knew for sure Infiltration assaulted his wife before dropping him from the team, which was pretty good, since most teams would've just dropped the player right after the accusation, even if they didn't the person was guilty or not.

Then there's cases like Cosby, where he got off scotfree, but he's definitely guilty and only got off because the prosecutor is an asshole that gave him great deal(I'm sure he got paid a lot). Cosby's life definitely should be ruined, but there's nothing anyone can do about him anymore.

So what do you guys think?
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Lokarin
09/30/21 12:55:10 PM
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I tend to not think at all.


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Clench281
09/30/21 12:55:38 PM
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What are you expecting people to say or discuss here?

Innocent people suffering negative consequences is a bad thing. Obviously. Case closed.

Is this supposed to be some "please someone think of the falsely accused" sexual assault apologetics?


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lihlih
09/30/21 1:13:08 PM
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Clench281 posted...
What are you expecting people to say or discuss here?

Innocent people suffering negative consequences is a bad thing. Obviously. Case closed.

Is this supposed to be some "please someone think of the falsely accused" sexual assault apologetics?



Lolno, but there are things to discuss, like is it worth punishing people that get accused, because it's better than guilty people not getting punished. Then there's the opposite side, is it worth letting guilty people not get fucked because of people that might be innocent?
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Zeus
09/30/21 1:42:12 PM
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American society has become quite the Crucible, tbh. Granted, I imagine throughout much of America's history an unfounded accusation has been enough to ruin lives.

lihlih posted...
I do think that the accusations need to be taken seriously, but look at stuff like the McMartin family

The problem there is that the justice system also badly mishandled it.

lihlih posted...
Then there's cases like Cosby, where he got off scotfree, but he's definitely guilty and only got off because the prosecutor is an asshole that gave him great deal(I'm sure he got paid a lot). Cosby's life definitely should be ruined, but there's nothing anyone can do about him anymore.

At least he went to prison, unlike Woody Allen whose prosecutors kept his crimes from going to trial.

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DANTE20XX
09/30/21 1:43:27 PM
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Since when did rumors stop being just rumors until proven? Seems like sometime in the last 10 years or so.

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lihlih
09/30/21 1:59:26 PM
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DANTE20XX posted...
Since when did rumors stop being just rumors until proven? Seems like sometime in the last 10 years or so.


The McMartin trials happened way before that.
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Zeus
09/30/21 2:12:12 PM
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lihlih posted...
The McMartin trials happened way before that.

And the McMartin trials weren't just an accusation. The prosecution manufactured evidence, which made them look guilty. Had the government done its job properly, everything would have fallen apart from the get-go, or whatever actually happened would have been unearthed.

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ReturnOfFa
09/30/21 3:06:14 PM
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Clench281 posted...
What are you expecting people to say or discuss here?

Innocent people suffering negative consequences is a bad thing. Obviously. Case closed.

Is this supposed to be some "please someone think of the falsely accused" sexual assault apologetics?


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lihlih
09/30/21 3:27:13 PM
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ReturnOfFa 9/30/2021 2:06:14 PM#9
Clench281 posted...
What are you expecting people to say or discuss here?

Innocent people suffering negative consequences is a bad thing. Obviously. Case closed.

Is this supposed to be some "please someone think of the falsely accused" sexual assault apologetics?


Lol, somebody can't read.
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ReturnOfFa
09/30/21 3:29:54 PM
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I can read, cheers, I was simply affirming that I agreed with what Clench had to say in this instance. I'm not sure why you act so upset every day.

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lihlih
09/30/21 4:24:17 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
I can read, cheers, I was simply affirming that I agreed with what Clench had to say in this instance. I'm not sure why you act so upset every day.


Except there's plenty to discuss here, and you'd understand this if you had even a modicum of reading comprehension.
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wwinterj25
09/30/21 4:35:35 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty is normally something I follow. Getting found guilty by law and/or actual evidence is needed though.

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Jen0125
09/30/21 4:38:02 PM
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lihlih posted...
prosecutor is an asshole that gave him great deal(I'm sure he got paid a lot)

This.. Isn't what happened.

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lihlih
09/30/21 4:45:07 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Innocent until proven guilty is normally something I follow. Getting found guilty by law and/or actual evidence is needed though.


Guilty by law sometimes is fucked too though. Like look at the San Antonio 4, Central Park 5, etc...
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Zareth
09/30/21 4:47:42 PM
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I hate the dumbasses who are always like "the fact that (accused person) isn't responding to these accusations is very telling"

Like you talk to a lawyer when you're accused and the first thing they tell you is to say nothing publicly

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SaltyAndSweet
09/30/21 5:20:30 PM
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Every situation is different. Thats all you can really say and just know that people are complicated and you gotta try to use common sense and temper details that you know alongside all the details that you dont.

There are cases of very bad people being held accountable for crimes but there are also people that get publicly shamed who do not deserve such treatment. That isnt something new though. People in general are good at persecuting each other, you see it all throughout history.

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OhhhJa
09/30/21 5:26:00 PM
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Ruining lives is awesome! The more ruined the better!
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wwinterj25
09/30/21 5:29:16 PM
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lihlih posted...
Guilty by law sometimes is fucked too though. Like look at the San Antonio 4, Central Park 5, etc...
True but at least there is some reasoning.

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agesboy
09/30/21 5:29:48 PM
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your initial post is dripping with agenda so nobody is going to really take the conversation seriously

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lihlih
09/30/21 5:41:25 PM
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agesboy posted...
your initial post is dripping with agenda so nobody is going to really take the conversation seriously


You're finding agenda where there aren't any because you're projecting hard.
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SaltyAndSweet
09/30/21 5:42:09 PM
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lihlih posted...
You're finding agenda where there aren't any because you're projecting hard.

no, hes right

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lihlih
09/30/21 5:57:34 PM
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SaltyAndSweet posted...


no, hes right


Lol, found another guy that doesn't have reading comprehension and has to project his bullshit onto my post.
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Sarcasthma
09/30/21 6:38:41 PM
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I have good reading comprehension.


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SaltyAndSweet
09/30/21 7:20:15 PM
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lihlih posted...
Lol, found another guy that doesn't have reading comprehension and has to project his bullshit onto my post.

I actual have a tremendous amount of rhythm concentration

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CinderLock
09/30/21 9:02:16 PM
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"Scotftee" he went to prison and his career and legacy are over lol that's not "scotfree"+

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SaltyAndSweet
09/30/21 9:06:32 PM
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CinderLock posted...
"Scotftee" he went to prison and his career and legacy are over lol that's not "scotfree"+

he served a an incomplete sentence after decades of freedom and public lies

Id hardly call that just

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zebatov
09/30/21 9:18:53 PM
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Some girl tried telling everyone I gave her some STD years ago. So I went and got tested and posted the negative results on the internet for everyone to see. Everyone immediately shunned her and called her a slut/stopped talking to her because shes nasty and a liar. She did it to herself, really.

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chelsea_wtf
09/30/21 9:19:39 PM
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its awesome

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Jen0125
09/30/21 9:52:54 PM
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zebatov posted...
Some girl tried telling everyone I gave her some STD years ago. So I went and got tested and posted the negative results on the internet for everyone to see. Everyone immediately shunned her and called her a slut/stopped talking to her because shes nasty and a liar. She did it to herself, really.

This happened

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