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CyricZ
06/18/22 7:44:56 PM
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...or is it a Christian story?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/8/9/AAACPvAADW0R.jpg

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spikethedevil
06/18/22 7:45:49 PM
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Christian story? WTF?

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Mearcstapa
06/18/22 7:46:37 PM
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SW is a Christian story

lmao fuck off

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InTheEyesOfFire
06/18/22 7:47:00 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/2/AAPzE7AADW0U.jpg

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ZMythos
06/18/22 7:48:08 PM
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Bob Silverwind sounds like he has a nuanced opinion on the age of consent.

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Dragon239
06/18/22 7:48:34 PM
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Can't believe Jesus murdered all them younglings

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furb
06/18/22 7:49:03 PM
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Always has been.

https://youtu.be/iQdDRrcAOjA

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CyricZ
06/18/22 7:49:21 PM
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Enjoy the replies here for plenty of wonderful takes on "Star Wars is not supposed to be political".

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1537140794473054208

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Dakimakura
06/18/22 7:49:27 PM
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Wars, what are they good for?

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IShall_Run_Amok
06/18/22 7:50:45 PM
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I hope these sheep fuckers feel sincerely hurt and persecuted by this silly ass bullshit, tbh. They deserve to feel the emotional pain they insist on inflicting on themselves.

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Raikuro
06/18/22 7:50:48 PM
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Religion is political tho
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Jabodie
06/18/22 7:51:03 PM
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"Who's the father?"

"There was no father."

Qui Gonn's thoughts:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r3hTwsvJV_A

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ViewtifulJoe
06/18/22 7:52:46 PM
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Did he think Hayden Christensen was the character name instead of Anakin or something?
And it's a Christian story where Jesus is reconstructed as a mechanical abomination after space Judas betrays him and then sets about terrorising the galaxy for a decade or two? And then his sacrifice amounts to very little because the greater evil he destroys was secretly a clone who lived on another planet far away? And then he somehow returned?

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008Zulu
06/18/22 7:52:57 PM
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Christian Anakin goes against the establishment.
Christian Anakin murders children.
Christian Anakin gets his arms and legs chopped off, and left for dead in a lava bed for our sins.
Christian Anakin resurrects as a bad-ass Christian Darth Vader.

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Dakimakura
06/18/22 7:53:40 PM
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Do conservatives complain about lesbian pron being political?

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Kim_Seong-a
06/18/22 7:56:57 PM
#16:


That Bob Silverwind character sounds like a major dweebus

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HairyQueen
06/18/22 7:57:07 PM
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gays have all the same rights now and arent oppressed!

okay cool, heres a gay character in this new comic..

WE DONt WANT THAT!!! STOP MAKING EVERYTHING POLITICAL!!!

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CyricZ
06/18/22 8:01:31 PM
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I swear to dog I saw "Star Wars has politics. That's not the same as being political."

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wackyteen
06/18/22 8:02:32 PM
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"Just because it FEATURES Politics doesn't mean IT'S POLITICAL"

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FortuneCookie
06/18/22 8:03:25 PM
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Yes. Objectively. From the horse's mouth.

George Lucas said it was about Nixon and the Vietnam era. He's a huge Democrat. Why do conservative Star Wars fans absolutely REFUSE to accept that? Just because he inadvertently made the fascist bad guys cooler than the good guys, that does not mean he's on their team.
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CableZL
06/18/22 8:04:26 PM
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Anakin is space Jesus?

Darth Vader is Jesus in his mind?

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FortuneCookie
06/18/22 8:04:27 PM
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Also, George Lucas borrows a lot of religious content.

Willow borrowed from the Baby Moses narrative. That doesn't make it a religious story. George Lucas is a liberal and a Buddhist, not a conservative Christian.
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TwoDoorPC
06/18/22 8:04:35 PM
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remember when jesus turned to the dark side?

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Imit8m3
06/18/22 8:05:33 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/8/AAZgIXAADW0a.jpg

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wackyteen
06/18/22 8:06:37 PM
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CableZL posted...
Anakin is space Jesus?

Darth Vader is Jesus in his mind?
He's literally the chosen one and until Didney fucked the Canon, it was implied that Anakin was literally conceived by the will of the Force.

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CableZL
06/18/22 8:08:11 PM
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wackyteen posted...
He's literally the chosen one and until Didney f***ed the Canon, it was implied that Anakin was literally conceived by the will of the Force.

Darth Vader Jesus died for Episode X

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spikethedevil
06/18/22 8:09:12 PM
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wackyteen posted...
He's literally the chosen one and until Didney fucked the Canon, it was implied that Anakin was literally conceived by the will of the Force.

Ok but what about the murdering of children?

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action52
06/18/22 8:09:24 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Enjoy the replies here for plenty of wonderful takes on "Star Wars is not supposed to be political".

https://twitter.com/starwars/status/1537140794473054208
lol this dumbass bigot in the replies actually named their account "Really Smart Person"

https://twitter.com/ByronBiDisaster/status/1537271553632894976?t=8cZfYpK7A5NwXS6XIgO7dw&s=19

https://twitter.com/Doomgal46/status/1537966635180445698?t=9jHqkHnea-_4rq7hy0jYqQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/Doomgal46/status/1538240865566699521?t=dNFL23PCGYdiZr50iv2trA&s=19

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__aCEr__
06/18/22 8:11:19 PM
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Wow the cleansing of the temple was VERY different from how they told it in the Bible.

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Billyionaire
06/18/22 8:15:17 PM
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I would inject every ounce of woke-ness into Star Wars if it meant it could be good again. But that's not gonna happen

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Kim_Seong-a
06/18/22 8:18:07 PM
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If the franchise about psychic laser samurai accurately represented the real world...

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MabusIncarnate
06/18/22 8:20:21 PM
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The Republic, Empire, Rebellion, Senate. Nope, no politics here.

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DespondentDeity
06/18/22 8:22:19 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
The Republic, Empire, Rebellion, Senate. Nope, no politics here.

The Seditionist Trade Federation which were political pawns of a fascist overlord.

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Xethuminra
06/18/22 8:23:42 PM
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So it's Jesus

But he's twisted and evil, and wears armor, and is badly burnt
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CyricZ
06/18/22 8:25:02 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
So it's Jesus

But he's twisted and evil, and wears armor, and is badly burnt
Don't forget the robot parts!

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NES4EVER
06/18/22 8:25:24 PM
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So why did jesus to palpatines bidding?

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Xethuminra
06/18/22 8:27:07 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Don't forget the robot parts!
They're there because he's burnt and it's part of the armor, but yes

NES4EVER posted...
So why did jesus to palpatines bidding?
Well, he had a philosophy that life would be better under imperial rule and he thought he was saving his family from war.
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averagejoel
06/18/22 8:31:16 PM
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it is political. but it's also not really a stretch to call it a christian narrative -- the main characters are essentially portrayed as messianic figures

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A_Good_Boy
06/18/22 8:32:32 PM
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What's the allegorical connection to the Bible where Jesus is supposed to have murdered a bunch of children and participated in hunting down and slaughtering his former companions and colleagues?

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Oubliettes
06/18/22 8:35:58 PM
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star wars is just a hero's journey/monomyth retelling pretty much beat by beat

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Verdekal
06/18/22 8:42:28 PM
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The Empire is space Nazis. Duh.

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A_Good_Boy
06/18/22 8:44:08 PM
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Where's the part in the Bible where Jesus tried to murder his son because he couldn't convince him to team up and conquer Rome?

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lightwarrior78
06/18/22 8:50:24 PM
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OT not much. Nothing in the movie goes over what the conflict is about beyond one side is willing to destroy planets and others that don't like that fight back. No economics. No religion beyond Jedi (sith weren't even named), no culture. Anything there was added in interpretation in interviews and the EU.

PT more a political morality tale / badly written political thriller than something making apolitical point on anything. "Democracy = good, monarch = bad for no other reason than monarchy headed up by asshole" doesn't exactly constitue a deep politcal conversation.

ST who the fuck knows. What was the first order fighting for again? Did it have anything to do but be evil and hunt rebels?

It's kind of a dumb point still, but then, having gay people just to go "look how good and progressive we are" isn't exactly on political par with say, the arc in the EU Black Fleet Crisis and Leia's struggles with if the republic should get involved in a conflict of independant species jsut because one commited genocide on others to get their stolen planets back.

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averagejoel
06/18/22 8:55:16 PM
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lightwarrior78 posted...
OT not much. Nothing in the movie goes over what the conflict is about beyond one side is willing to destroy planets and others that don't like that fight back. No economics. No religion beyond Jedi (sith weren't even named), no culture. Anything there was added in interpretation in interviews and the EU.
have you even seen A New Hope?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/8/AAUjppAADW04.png

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Hayame Zero
06/18/22 8:55:28 PM
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Christian allegories are common, but Anakin isn't even a good analogy. That just makes Jesus sound worse lol

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Doom_Art
06/18/22 8:57:38 PM
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lightwarrior78 posted...
Anything there was added in interpretation in interviews
My dude Lucas has been pretty vocal about basing the Empire on the US and the Rebels on the Vietcong. You may not have seen it yourself, but the intent was clearly there by the creator.

lightwarrior78 posted...
something making apolitical point on anything.
its about the corruption of a democratic form of government by a power hungry politician who takes advantage of stagnation and a frustrated public to sell war with another government

this politician then uses the war to gain public support for consolidating power around himself and purging his enemies

how is that not political

lightwarrior78 posted...
ST who the fuck knows.
kylo ren is absolutely a take on the "angry radicalized young white man"

something we see a lot of nowadays

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IShall_Run_Amok
06/18/22 9:09:31 PM
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The sequel trilogy is, of course, vague on most political points, but I do think that characters like Kylo and Hux bear enough of a resemblance to the way actual fascists think and behave to say that the films, at the very least, accidentally hit on something. Maz Kanata is also really awful. That has nothing to do with politics, but it brings me joy to shit on a fictional character without being prompted to do so.

Take that, Maz.

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Nerevar791
06/20/22 10:10:56 PM
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wackyteen posted...
He's literally the chosen one and until Didney fucked the Canon, it was implied that Anakin was literally conceived by the will of the Force.
Disney Star Wars is canon and nothing has changed about Anakin's origin.

There's a lot more to Jesus than the virgin birth you know?

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Nerevar791
06/20/22 10:11:54 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
The sequel trilogy is, of course, vague on most political points, but I do think that characters like Kylo and Hux bear enough of a resemblance to the way actual fascists think and behave to say that the films, at the very least, accidentally hit on something. Maz Kanata is also really awful. That has nothing to do with politics, but it brings me joy to shit on a fictional character without being prompted to do so.

Take that, Maz.
I've actually seen some people say they initially hated how the worldbuilding was conceived in the ST but have come around to it, seeing as it involves a resurgent fascist movement being placated by a weak, centrist government all-too-willing to offer them concessions rather than risk conflict.

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NonDairyMiltank
06/20/22 10:13:46 PM
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Is Star Wars political?
wars are literally political lol

war is politics with violence dialed up to the max

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