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AmericaTheBrave
05/22/23 12:33:25 PM
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Woman say plus-sized women are "real women" and have movements like Healthy At Any Size.
You don't see this with men. There is no push for more plus-sized men visibility in media.

Do men not care about their rotund brethren?

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cuttin_in_farm
05/22/23 12:34:50 PM
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Plus sized men is a thing, and does get attention. Just not as much.

Men, in general, are socially accepted at different body sizes already. Women, comparatively, get a lot more shit for not being slim.

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willythemailboy
05/22/23 12:35:45 PM
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Dad bods are not shamed all that much.

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AldousIsDead
05/22/23 12:36:00 PM
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Because the problems that arise from being a fat man in our society are less crippling and more subtle than being a fat woman.

This doesn't mean that they shouldn't be addressed, but tackling the more obvious problem first shouldn't be surprising.

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Questionmarktarius
05/22/23 12:36:44 PM
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Guys don't care.
"You could stand to lose a few" gets a response of "Yeah, probably" instead of "Don't fat-shame me!!"
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lolife67
05/22/23 12:37:27 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Plus sized men is a thing, and does get attention. Just not as much.

Men, in general, are socially accepted at different body sizes already. Women, comparatively, get a lot more shit for not being slim.
This.
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NoxObscuras
05/22/23 12:39:09 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Plus sized men is a thing, and does get attention. Just not as much.

Men, in general, are socially accepted at different body sizes already. Women, comparatively, get a lot more shit for not being slim.
This. Just look at American sitcoms. The fat husband with a fit wife is a common trope. Fat women don't get anywhere near the same level of acceptance

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BurmesePenguin
05/22/23 12:39:52 PM
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TC is really upset about women existing lately

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AmericaTheBrave
05/22/23 12:40:38 PM
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willythemailboy posted...
Dad bods are not shamed all that much.

Dad bods are a meme. No woman actually likes them.

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Were_Wyrm
05/22/23 12:41:00 PM
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Because men already have representation in media as the fat stupid husband.

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Toonstrack
05/22/23 12:42:04 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Plus sized men is a thing, and does get attention. Just not as much.

Men, in general, are socially accepted at different body sizes already. Women, comparatively, get a lot more shit for not being slim.

Pretty much.

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Thud
05/22/23 12:42:14 PM
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Fat women can still be sexy and pretty.

A fat man is just fucking disgusting, period

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s0nicfan
05/22/23 12:42:16 PM
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I'm reminded of this meme:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/7/AABJX0AAEgCz.jpg

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AmericaTheBrave
05/22/23 12:42:22 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Men, in general, are socially accepted at different body sizes already. Women, comparatively, get a lot more shit for not being slim.

But what if fat guys want to be seen more than "funny best friend"? What if they want to be a leading man? Or see more fat men in video games that aren't jokes?

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andel
05/22/23 12:42:54 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Dad bods are a meme. No woman actually likes them.

women generally don't mind them.

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Hayame_Zero
05/22/23 12:43:25 PM
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There is. Dad bods are a thing, and most people - man or woman - don't give men's weight a second thought. It's not an ideology, it's just naturally accepted by most.

Women get shit on it about it way more, and that's why there's an overweight acceptance movement to begin with.

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NoxObscuras
05/22/23 12:43:29 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
But what if fat guys want to be seen more than "funny best friend"? What if they want to be a leading man? Or see more fat men in video games that aren't jokes?
What are you on about? They are very frequently the leading man

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AmericaTheBrave
05/22/23 12:44:01 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
What are you on about? They are very frequently the leading man

In a comedy where they are the butt of jokes.

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FelineCyborg
05/22/23 12:45:14 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
But what if fat guys want to be seen more than "funny best friend"? What if they want to be a leading man? Or see more fat men in video games that aren't jokes?

dude theres a dozen shows with fat, balding, stupid men with hot wives

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MedeaLysistrata
05/22/23 12:46:52 PM
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men need to be the best version of themselves in every way or else society falls apart

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andel
05/22/23 12:49:52 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
In a comedy where they are the butt of jokes.

in comedies everyone is the butt of jokes, that's how comedies work. you can't just keep moving the goalposts. dad bods are widely accepted in movies and irl by virtually everyone.

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FelineCyborg
05/22/23 12:50:47 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Dad bods are a meme. No woman actually likes them.

women overlook physical appearences way more than men do

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cuttin_in_farm
05/22/23 12:51:25 PM
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FelineCyborg posted...
women overlook physical appearences way more than men do

This is not true. In what context?

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FelineCyborg
05/22/23 12:53:05 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
This is not true. In what context?

in every context. im an ugly little goblin but the women im with overlook that and compliment me on features i dont even notice or look for in people

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Noumas
05/22/23 12:54:36 PM
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Lol Because "fat acceptance" for men has been a thing for decades, centuries even, with all the TV shows featuring fat ugly men and unbelievably hot thin wives

There's a joke about how a man being short is actually worse to women than a man being fat.

Also men are judged by the other factors beyond the physical, while women are judged by the physical "what does he do" vs "what does she look like" its just how humans are biologically wired
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Solar_Crimson
05/22/23 12:55:24 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Men, in general, are socially accepted at different body sizes already. Women, comparatively, get a lot more shit for not being slim.


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FelineCyborg
05/22/23 12:56:07 PM
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Noumas posted...
There's a joke about how a man being short is actually worse to women than a man being fat.

ive always been on the short thin side but this past year ive been putting on quite a few pounds and chicks say i look better with a gut lol.

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Ivynn
05/22/23 12:57:22 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
This is not true. In what context?

Well there is the stereotype that women favor personality and how a man carries himself more than looks. I don't how true that is (the women in my life certainly appreciate a hot guy). But it's possible for a less attractive man to have other qualities that attract a woman.*

Compared to men who like "she must be a 9 or I walk away"

*someone might bring up dating sites and how women demand the man be six feet or such. Yeah, but that's the internet tho where people tend to be at their shallowest. I'm speaking more about IRL women.

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cuttin_in_farm
05/22/23 12:59:05 PM
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FelineCyborg posted...
in every context. im an ugly little goblin but the women im with overlook that and compliment me on features i dont even notice or look for in people

Do you think ugly women arent with men who overlook their less than favorable features?

I wont derail the topic. Especially since youre referencing your own experiences. But men and women factor in appearance just about equally if intent is the same. If women just want to fuck, they probably wont entertain ugly dudes as much as dudes entertain ugly women when trying to fuck. But if dating is the goal, I genuinely feel like each gender weighs appearance pretty equally.

Just my 2 cents.

Btw. Im sure youre just overly pessimistic about your looks, bro. Dont sell yourself short.

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EthanSilver
05/22/23 12:59:16 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Healthy At Any Size.
Is this really a thing, I mean outside of fringes, which you'll find in anything really.

Point being, is it really a thing that is widespread, or just something blown out of proportion to get people outraged? Or distracted from real issues.

edit: don't get me wrong here, there is a fine line between bullying fat people, and encouraging an unhealthy life style. I've seen plenty of the former, not the latter. Outside of "outrage" spreaders.
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lolife67
05/22/23 1:01:41 PM
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Noumas posted...
its just how humans are biologically wired
I disagree. Thos isn't done inherent biological thing. It's purely based on society/culture.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
05/22/23 1:04:50 PM
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EthanSilver posted...
Is this really a thing, I mean outside of fringes, which you'll find in anything really.

Point being, is it really a thing that is widespread, or just something blown out of proportion to get people outraged? Or distracted from real issues.

edit: don't get me wrong here, there is a fine line between bullying fat people, and encouraging an unhealthy life style. I've seen plenty of the former, not the latter. Outside of "outrage" spreaders.

I hope most people realize that being overweight makes any health issue exponentially worse and significantly decreases your life span, but sometimes I am not so sure.

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NoxObscuras
05/22/23 1:06:28 PM
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EthanSilver posted...
Is this really a thing, I mean outside of fringes, which you'll find in anything really.

Point being, is it really a thing that is widespread, or just something blown out of proportion to get people outraged? Or distracted from real issues.

edit: don't get me wrong here, there is a fine line between bullying fat people, and encouraging an unhealthy life style. I've seen plenty of the former, not the latter. Outside of "outrage" spreaders.
It's definitely blown out of proportion. The people that hate the body positivity movement almost always rant about how "it's encouraging an unhealthy lifestyle." But they ignore the fact that overweight people, especially overweight women, are often bullied. It's just being happy with yourself and not letting bullies affect your mental health. And mental wellbeing is objectively a good thing to encourage.

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ZannoL
05/22/23 1:06:36 PM
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Thud posted...
Fat women can still be sexy and pretty.

A fat man is just fucking disgusting, period
Umm odd thing to say.

Anyway, both women and men should be accepted for their body types.
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EthanSilver
05/22/23 1:06:44 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I hope most people realize that being overweight makes any health issue exponentially worse and significantly decreases your life span, but sometimes I am not so sure.
Same.

But again, is it even widespread? Or just part of the dramaqueen outrage brigade? Who like to blow everything out of proportion.

"That one dude wanted to marry a chair! Merriage doesn't mean anothing anymore in our socioty!"

Christ is the "chud" era annoying. >.>
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andel
05/22/23 1:20:12 PM
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it's not ok to personally attack people over their weight (*unless it is someone like trump who does blatantly attacks others for theirs*) or try and humiliate them. we should be glorifying healthy lifestyle choices, but individuals shouldn't be attacked or shamed

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FelineCyborg
05/22/23 1:27:33 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Do you think ugly women arent with men who overlook their less than favorable features?

a lot of overweight women get treated like shit by their partners. if youre on a dating site and an overweight woman you will get the most disrespectful messages. its a constant struggle getring bare minimum respect as an overweight woman

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cuttin_in_farm
05/22/23 1:35:24 PM
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FelineCyborg posted...
a lot of overweight women get treated like shit by their partners. if youre on a dating site and an overweight woman you will get the most disrespectful messages. its a constant struggle getring bare minimum respect as an overweight woman

I dont believe this to be true. At least, it specifically being bigger women. Dudes treat women in general pretty bad in a sizable amount of relationships. Its not specifically bigger women.

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FelineCyborg
05/22/23 1:41:07 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
I dont believe this to be true. At least, it specifically being bigger women. Dudes treat women in general pretty bad in a sizable amount of relationships. Its not specifically bigger women.

as somebody with a variety of female friends the overweight women get messages the skinnier ones never have to deal with

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willythemailboy
05/22/23 7:57:43 PM
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EthanSilver posted...
Same.

But again, is it even widespread? Or just part of the dramaqueen outrage brigade? Who like to blow everything out of proportion.

Like everything else, it's not all one way or the other. Yes, there are absolute nutters who think having a six foot waist is perfectly healthy. The more mainstream version is basically accepting that many women simply aren't going to lose weight and so try to maximize health outcomes with that in mind.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4386524/

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bfslick50
05/22/23 8:04:04 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
There is no push for more plus-sized men visibility in media.

Theres a ton of sitcoms and movies where the husband/dad is plus sized with a super attractive wife.

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Punished_Blinx
05/22/23 8:05:11 PM
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It's kinda weird how there was Roseanne...and then it was just fat idiot and hot nagging wife sitcoms for most shows afterwards.

There's Melissa McCarthy. She does break the mold a bit but there's really not much else.

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Anony1125
05/22/23 8:08:52 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Dad bods are a meme. No woman actually likes them.
most women won't date a man if his body fat percentage is below 20%

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Dakimakura
05/22/23 10:11:11 PM
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Fat is culturally accepted for men, just be a comedian.

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EthanSilver
05/22/23 10:13:35 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
Fat is culturally accepted for men, just be a comedian.
I'm not personally a fan, but my father-in-law loves "fluffy" the comedian. Gabriel Iglesias.
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Background_Guy
05/22/23 10:22:09 PM
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God forbid I give a serious response to this topic, but overweight women generally get a lot more shit thrown at them than overweight men do. So of course the women are more likely to go "Hey stop throwing your shit at us."
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