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DirtBasedSoap
03/22/24 11:26:42 AM
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I totally respect that but she says she cant drink water until sunset? Is that normal? That seems dangerous and she feels like shit.

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reincarnator07
03/22/24 11:43:44 AM
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It's normal for Muslims during Ramadan, yes. It can indeed be very dangerous.

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FortuneCookie
03/22/24 11:45:09 AM
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Ramadan doesn't let you have WATER?

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Giant_Aspirin
03/22/24 11:46:30 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Ramadan doesn't let you have WATER?

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no and Allah will be furious with you if you take even a sip

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Ricemills
03/22/24 11:47:57 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Ramadan doesn't let you have WATER?

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Yes, no food or drinks from sunrise to sunset.
Not even allowed to be angry or getting injured iirc.

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Pikachuchupika
03/22/24 11:48:38 AM
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No sex or masturbation either
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pauIie
03/22/24 11:51:43 AM
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this sounds like abuse

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Ricemills
03/22/24 11:58:41 AM
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From what i know, ramadhan on muslim countries are pretty lenient. Cutting the work hours, less physical activities, more resting time etc.
And despite hatemongers said, there is no real punishment for failing the fast.

Eating in public tho, is a total different issue.

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GS4Life
03/22/24 11:58:53 AM
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I always worry about my friend who is Muslim during Ramadan she's so tiny

it happens every year so hopefully everything works out for all those Muslims fasting


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KingInBlack
03/22/24 12:03:18 PM
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They're allowed to drink if it's life-threatening/getting sick/hurt.
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FortuneCookie
03/22/24 12:04:11 PM
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People have to go to work and they're denied water?
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ironman2009
03/22/24 12:04:44 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
People have to go to work and they're denied water?

They deny themselves water, there's water if they need/want it.

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Pikachuchupika
03/22/24 12:08:02 PM
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Question: Do you break fast if food and water accidentally falls into your mouth? Or what about when you accidentally slip and fall on someone's penis?
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ai123
03/22/24 12:09:08 PM
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If you become ill during your fasting through lack of food/water, it's OK to break.

You're not supposed to be damaging your body or ruining your health. Just practising self-discipline.

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ai123
03/22/24 12:10:35 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Question: Do you break fast if food and water accidentally falls into your mouth?
If it happens by accident, that is a gift from God.

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FortuneCookie
03/22/24 12:14:18 PM
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Is this mandatory or is it something that the more devout Muslims adhere to?
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Pikachuchupika
03/22/24 12:36:44 PM
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ai123 posted...
If it happens by accident, that is a gift from God.


Pikachuchupika posted...
Or what about when you accidentally slip and fall on someone's penis?

Applies to this as well right? :P

Actually reminds me of mormons doing the shaking the bed or soaking.
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ssb_yunglink2
03/22/24 12:43:44 PM
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Ramadan is a struggle, but i feel like some people dont understand that people observing it are allowed to eat and drink after sunset and before the next dawn.

It is definitely very hard and requires discipline, but its not life endangering for the majority of people. And if it does become life endangering, you can break the fast if it is medically necessary.

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mercurydude
03/22/24 12:49:22 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Yes, no food or drinks from sunrise to sunset.
Not even allowed to be angry or getting injured iirc.

Maybe if that rule was meant for daredevils, it would make sense, but most injuries are accidental. It's not like folks set out to stub their toes.

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Hornezz
03/22/24 12:58:35 PM
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From what I've been told, there are exemptions from fasting for young children, pregnant women, the sick and elderly etc.

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Ricemills
03/22/24 12:59:48 PM
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I had a coworker that said he failed his fast because he accidentally cut himself while slicing vegetables. He said he is forfeited from today's fast.

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Naysaspace
03/22/24 1:01:03 PM
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theists to athiests: i respect you
athiests to theists: OMG LEIK WHY WOULD U EVEN DO DIS

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Pikachuchupika
03/22/24 1:01:50 PM
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https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/ramadan-rules-what-is-allowed-16188832

Here's the rules.
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reincarnator07
03/22/24 2:26:19 PM
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Naysaspace posted...
theists to athiests: i respect you
athiests to theists: OMG LEIK WHY WOULD U EVEN DO DIS
Bolded literally doesn't happen half the time. Atheists are distrusted and actually face discrimination even here in the west, to say nothing of more... devout countries.

Can you really not think why someone would question why someone would deprive themselves of the most basic of human needs? If one is ignorant of Islam (or any other reason to fast) then it's a rational question.

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Prestoff
03/22/24 2:35:38 PM
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Ramadan is suppose to be a struggle. The funny part was I learned from my friend who is Muslim that you're not even suppose to get angry, but my Muslim coworker just always constantly complains and bitches about it while it's happening lol.

Naysaspace posted...
theists to athiests: i respect you
athiests to theists: OMG LEIK WHY WOULD U EVEN DO DIS

What the fuck are you going on about? Is it not okay for people to find things strange/weird and question about it? Even as an atheist I was told by other Christians that say "how does it feel like knowing you're going to burn in hell for all eternity by not believing that Jesus is our Lord and Savior? It's never too late to go back to him, YOU CAN BE SAVED!".

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DirtBasedSoap
03/22/24 3:11:56 PM
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Naysaspace posted...
theists to athiests: i respect you
athiests to theists: OMG LEIK WHY WOULD U EVEN DO DIS
i dont believe in any religion. i still respect everyones choice to believe/participate in something.

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hockeybabe89
03/22/24 3:13:28 PM
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Not drinking fluids all day is stupid.

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Xatrion
03/22/24 3:15:30 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/ramadan-rules-what-is-allowed-16188832

Here's the rules.

Who the hell makes this shit up?

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CARRRNE_ASADA
03/22/24 3:15:59 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Ramadan is suppose to be a struggle. The funny part was I learned from my friend who is Muslim that you're not even suppose to get angry, but my Muslim coworker just always constantly complains and bitches about it while it's happening lol.


I imagine its irritability due to low sugar levels.

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FortuneCookie
03/22/24 5:35:01 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/ramadan-rules-what-is-allowed-16188832

Here's the rules.

Thanks. Conversion says 5 is $6.50 USD. If it were an option, I think I would sooner pay the daily fine than go without water from sunup to sundown.
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DrizztLink
03/22/24 5:36:38 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
i dont believe in any religion. i still respect everyones choice to believe/participate in something.
I like it more when people don't quote that guy, it's nice not having to read his drivel after getting blocked.

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FortuneCookie
03/22/24 5:39:23 PM
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Eh, there's always somebody trying to start a fight. It was definitely a charged post.
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YugiNoob
03/22/24 5:59:15 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Question: Do you break fast if food and water accidentally falls into your mouth? Or what about when you accidentally slip and fall on someone's penis?
https://youtu.be/7M0U9wnI5CE?si=2EXlf7gtW_HeQHDb

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Revelation34
03/24/24 9:36:51 AM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

i dont believe in any religion. i still respect everyones choice to believe/participate in something.


Even Scientology?

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cjsdowg
03/24/24 9:43:52 AM
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Are these rules in the Muslim holy text or were they made afterwards. Like how the seven deadly sins are in the Bible as the seven deadly sins.

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Kaiganeer
03/24/24 9:44:03 AM
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you think mohammed feels disappointment while railing his 40 virgins every time someone takes a swig of water during ramadhan?
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Foppe
03/24/24 9:54:34 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Are these rules in the Muslim holy text or were they made afterwards. Like how the seven deadly sins are in the Bible as the seven deadly sins.
They are in the Quran, in the Al-Baqarah chapter.

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Mearcstapa
03/24/24 9:58:54 AM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
Question: Do you break fast if food and water accidentally falls into your mouth? Or what about when you accidentally slip and fall on someone's penis?

https://youtu.be/aDdOchBejcc

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cjsdowg
03/24/24 10:32:54 AM
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Foppe posted...
They are in the Quran, in the Al-Baqarah chapter.

Thank you.

And I use to think Lent was hard.

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Heineken14
03/24/24 10:38:57 AM
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Naysaspace posted...
theists to athiests: i respect you
athiests to theists: OMG LEIK WHY WOULD U EVEN DO DIS

Proving once again that you are incapable of posting something that isn't total bunk.

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ai123
03/24/24 10:40:34 AM
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Exactly.

The requirements that people are portraying in a negative or mocking way ('you're not even allowed to get angry'), are actually beneficial (working on kindness and understanding).

Ramadan is a struggle, but it is an experience which strengthens your relationships with God and your family.

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Revelation34
03/24/24 10:46:18 AM
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ai123 posted...

Exactly.

The requirements that people are portraying in a negative or mocking way ('you're not even allowed to get angry'), are actually beneficial (working on kindness and understanding).

Ramadan is a struggle, but it is an experience which strengthens your relationships with God and your family.


The opposite of anger is calmness, not kindness.

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Tora_Sami
03/24/24 11:03:45 AM
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Does anyone know a good English translation of the Quran? This Ramadan stuff has me curious to read it. I kind of always wanted to read the Quran, but these kinds of convos have me really thinking about it. I'm a Christian, I guess, I don't know anymore. Anyways, I believe the Torah, Bible, and Quran are parts do a greater whole. Heck I believe all religions are connected to GOD, even Buddhism. Getting way off topic, but I tried searching and the first thing that pops up on Google seems kind of iffy, I'll get it if I have to but if anyone here has a personal version they read or know others who read on, would be a big help.

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ai123
03/24/24 11:24:21 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
The opposite of anger is calmness, not kindness.
Who said it was? Being kind is an alternative response to getting angry.

I don't know what point you think you were making.

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ai123
03/24/24 11:29:30 AM
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Tora_Sami posted...
Does anyone know a good English translation of the Quran? This Ramadan stuff has me curious to read it. I kind of always wanted to read the Quran, but these kinds of convos have me really thinking about it. I'm a Christian, I guess, I don't know anymore. Anyways, I believe the Torah, Bible, and Quran are parts do a greater whole. Heck I believe all religions are connected to GOD, even Buddhism. Getting way off topic, but I tried searching and the first thing that pops up on Google seems kind of iffy, I'll get it if I have to but if anyone here has a personal version they read or know others who read on, would be a big help.
The Oxford World's Classics trans. M. A. S. Abdel Haleem.

Readable, modern English.

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Revelation34
03/24/24 11:35:26 AM
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ai123 posted...

Who said it was? Being kind is an alternative response to getting angry.

I don't know what point you think you were making.


No being calm is. Kindness has nothing to do with anger.

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