Board 8 > Board 8 determines the Top 100 Pokemon! {Results and Discussion Topic 4}

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Round 4 Day 3 Results

Articuno defeats Blastoise 19 - 11
Houndoom defeats Sharpedo 16 - 14
Arcanine defeats Charmander 17 - 13
Gengar defeats Kabutops 17 - 13
Charizard defeats Bulbasaur 17 - 13
Ampharos defeats Espeon 17 - 12
Scizor defeats Snorlax 18 - 12
Heracross defeats Krookodile 16 - 14
Squirtle defeats Mewtwo 16 - 14
Zapdos defeats Mew 16 - 14
Tyranitar TIES Typhlosion 15 - 15
Scyther defeats Umbreon 17 - 13

Are we still leaving ties alone, or are we handling them differently this time?

great results mostly

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This is unfortunate. I thought more people would like Krookodile. He looks awesome.

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Squirtle defeating Mewtwo is an unexpected yet pleasant surprise, as is the tie between two of my favorites and Krookodile holding its own against Heracross.

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Oh, sorry, yes, ties are just going to be left as ties again, at least until the final day or two. And I also apologize for the weird start times, but I figured that it would be better than not having a topic at all on the day that I did not get back in enough time to start it at the usual time. But my hope is that I can just continue to start them slightly later each day to wean us back toward the usual start time without having to skip a half day of matches all at once.

That said, I'm pretty amazed at the wins by Squirtle and Zapdos. Zapdos just hasn't looked as strong as I would've expected this contest (although he did still make the Top 25, so I guess it's hard to argue with that), and Mew has been pretty great. Squirtle, on the other hand, has performed better than his record last round seemed to indicate, but I'm still shocked that he took down Mewtwo, who seemed to be flaring in popularity and was sitting atop the rankings coming into Day 4.

I honestly think a tie is a pretty fitting result for Typhlosion and Tyranitar. I honestly think they're both pretty equally amazing, though I might give the slight edge to T-Tar.

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Round 4, Day 4 Results

Typhlosion and Umbreon TIE 13 - 13
Mew defeats Tyranitar 18 - 8
Squirtle defeats Zapdos 15 - 11
Mewtwo defeats Heracross 15 - 11
Snorlax defeats Krookodile 14 - 12
Scizor defeats Espeon 15 - 11
Bulbasaur and Ampharos TIE 13 - 13
Charizard defeats Kabutops 16 - 10
Gengar defeats Charmander 17 - 9
Arcanine defeats Sharpedo 14 - 12
Blastoise defeats Houndoom 15 - 11
Articuno defeats Dragonite 15 - 11

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houndoom :(

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Friggen Sharpedo. Why don't you win? You're Sharpedo

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Round 4 Day 5 Results

Dragonite defeats Houndoom 12 - 8
Arcanine defeats Blastoise 12 – 8
Gengar defeats Sharpedo 12 – 8
Charizard defeats Charmander 14 – 6
Ampharos defeats Kabutops 11 – 9
Scizor defeats Bulbasaur 13 – 7
Espeon defeats Krookodile 13 – 7
Snorlax TIES Mewtwo 10 – 10
Zapdos defeats Heracross 12 – 8
Squirtle defeats Tyranitar 12 – 8
Umbreon TIES Mew 10 – 10
Scyther defeats Typhlosion 14 - 5

Espeon defeats Krookodile 13 – 7

Worst result ever.

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I love Espeon

But am still appalled by how terribly Krookodile has done this round, especially after looking so strong in the first two

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Round 4 Day 6 Results

Scyther defeats Mew 18 - 11
Squirtle defeats Umbreon 17 - 12
Tyranitar defeats Heracross 19 - 10
Zapdos defeats Snorlax 16 - 13
Espeon defeats Mewtwo 15 - 14
Bulbasaur defeats Krookodile 17 - 12
Scizor defeats Kabutops 17 - 12
Ampharos defeats Charmander 15 - 14
Charizard defeats Sharpedo 17 - 12
Blastoise defeats Gengar 17 - 11
Arcanine defeats Dragonite 16 - 12
Articuno defeats Houndoom 16 - 12

Poor Krookodile and Houndoom...

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starfox2245 posted...
Round 4 Day 6 Results
Zapdos defeats Snorlax 16 - 13
Espeon defeats Mewtwo 15 - 14
Blastoise defeats Gengar 17 - 11


Extremely awful results.

Holy s***! Espeon defeated Mewtwo!?!?

I didn't even notice.

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What is going ON???

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What is going ON???

I have no clue, but for obvious reasons, I'm hoping against hope that it will last...

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Yeah, the Espeon upset came out of the blue. Espeon had not been doing particularly well, and Mewtwo was the best of the non-undefeated crew

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Ah damn, the comeback came in full force lol! >_<

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:( Houndoom was doing so well but three straight losses now sigh

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Round 4, Day 7 Results

Articuno defeats Arcanine 17 - 14
Dragonite defeats Gengar 20 - 11
Charizard defeats Blastoise 17 - 14
Ampharos defeats Sharpedo 16 - 15
Charmander defeats Scizor 16 - 15
Kabutops defeats Krookodile 18 - 13
Mewtwo defeats Bulbasaur 19 - 12
Espeon defeats Zapdos 18 - 13
Snorlax defeats Tyranitar 17 - 14
Umbreon defeats Heracross 19 - 12
Scyther defeats Squirtle 16 - 15
Mew defeats Typhlosion 16 - 15

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More bad results than good for that latest update.

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So Charizard is the first to hit the 7-0 mark! Scyther and Articuno are also undefeated. Krookodile and Sharpedo sit at 0-7.

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Da_J posted...
Scyther and Articuno are also undefeated. Krookodile and Sharpedo sit at 0-7.

I wish those were reversed.

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swordz9 posted...
Da_J posted...
Scyther and Articuno are also undefeated. Krookodile and Sharpedo sit at 0-7.

I wish those were reversed.

That would be so ridiculously bad though.

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Wouln't be bad at all for me since I like Krookodile and Sharpedo a lot more than Scyther and Articuno who I don't even really care about at all.

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Well, Sharpedo even getting into the top 25 is pretty surprising... so I completely expected this. Krookodile... not so much. Granted, I think I only voted for him in one matchup, but I'm still surprised that it's doing so poorly.

Typhlosion... ugh. Perhaps any position higher than 20 might be too much to hope for here.

While I'm thinking about it, time for some stats! For those of you who are dying to know. As usual, draws are listed last when applicable.


Current Ranking (through Day 7)

1. Charizard (7-0)
2. Scyther (6-0)
3. Articuno (6-0)
4. Scizor (6-1)
5. Arcanine (6-1)
6. Ampharos (5-1-1)
7. Squirtle (5-2)
8. Gengar (5-2)
9. Mewtwo (4-2-1)
10. Dragonite (4-2)
11. Snorlax (3-3-1)
12. Mew (3-3-1)
13. Zapdos (3-4)
14. Espeon (3-4)
15. Houndoom (3-3)
16. Tyranitar (2-4-1)
17. Blastoise (2-4)
18. Typhlosion (1-3-2)
19. Umbreon (1-3-2)
20. Bulbasaur (1-5-1)
21. Charmander (1-6)
22. Heracross (1-6)
23. Kabutops (1-6)
24. Krookodile (0-7)
25. Sharpedo (0-7)



Top 25 Breakdown by Generation:

Gen 1 - 15
Gen 2 - 8
Gen 3 - Sharpedo
Gen 4 - Ø
Gen 5 - Krookodile
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I knew the top 25 would have way too much gen 1&2 stuff. Pretty gross that Gens 3-5 combined don't even have 3 Pokemon in the top 25.

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And the only 2 Gen 3-5 Pokemon are combined 0-14. Yikes

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how the hell did charmander beat scizor

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Charmander (0-6) defeats Scizor (6-0) 16 - 15

o_o

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Furious Fura posted...
how the hell did charmander beat scizor

4x type advantage. >_>

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A suggestion: Expand the stats to include votes for and against.

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Yes indeed, that 4x type advantage upset was rather shocking. Winless Charmander knocking off #1 Scizor was quite the curveball to the stat sheet.

As for including votes for and against, I suppose I can do that if you wish and are just curious to know, but I have not so far because in this format the actual scores for this round are inconsequential; destroying all of your opponents sets you up no better than squeaking by in every match. Except, of course, when the powerhouse faces off against the squeaker. There are other tiebreaker criteria used instead.

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Augh I won't have the time to tally tonight, so if tsunami or someone else can post results, I can get the next topic up sooner.

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Round 4 Day 8 Results

Typhlosion TIES Squirtle 16 - 16
Heracross defeats Scyther 17 - 15
Umbreon defeats Snorlax 18 - 14
Espeon TIES Tyranitar 16 - 16
Bulbasaur defeats Zapdos 20 - 12
Mewtwo defeats Kabutops 18- 14
Charmander TIES Krookodile 16 - 16
Scizor defeats Sharpedo 17 - 15
Blastoise defeats Ampharos 17 - 15
Charizard defeats Dragonite 19 - 13
Articuno defeats Gengar 19 - 12
Houndoom defeats Arcanine 18 - 14

This round was full of WTF

No prob. I think I'll go ahead and do the for/against thing. I'm bored anyway.

Wow. I only voted Heracross because (as a pokémon not from Gen 1 competing against a pokémon from Gen 1) I figured Scyther would demolish it. Oops.

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Alrighty, thanks, starfox. Yeah, little bit of craziness going on, I see.

Charizard reasserts his dominance, Scyther suffers its first loss at the hand of one-win Heracross, and Charmander follows up his stunning #1 upset by failing to put away bottom-of-the-barrel Krookodile. And for whatever reason, I find the Tyranitar-Espeon tie rather fitting. Speaking of ties, Typhlosion falls to 19th after picking up a round-high 3rd draw.

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Oh alright, if you'd like to do that too, that'd be great! Saves me the time after getting the next topic up!

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Okay, here are the for and against rankings. I ranked them by the total difference between the votes cast for a pokemon and votes against them in order to compensate for the fact that some pokemon have had byes.

#. Pokemon: Difference (For-Against)

1. Articuno: 48 (130-82)
2. Scizor: 42 (138-96)
3. Scyther: 41 (124-83)
4. Charizard: 37 (135-98)
5. Mewtwo: 24 (129-105)
6. Arcanine: 21 (127-106)
7. Squirtle: 18 (126-108)
8. Dragonite: 13 (108-95)
9. Gengar: 12 (122-110)
10. Ampharos: 9 (121-112)
11. Houndoom: 0 (101-101)
11. Mew: 0 (101-101)
13. Umbreon: -3 (99-102)
14. Blastoise: -4 (98-102)
15. Espeon: -5 (114-119)
16. Typhlosion: -12 (96-108)
17. Snorlax: -15 (109-124)
18. Zapdos: -16 (109-125)
19. Tyranitar: -18 (108-126)
20. Bulbasaur: -22 (106-128)
21. Kabutops: -28 (103-131)
22. Sharpedo: -34 (100-134)
23. Heracross: -36 (99-135)
24. Krookodile: -38 (98-136)
25. Charmander: -40 (97-137)

And after doing all of this, I think I figured out how that program (or Da_J, whichever did it) determined the schedule, as irrelevant as that may be. :D

Round 4 Day 9 Results

Gengar defeats Houndoom 17 - 13
Articuno defeats Charizard 20 - 10
Ampharos defeats Dragonite 16 - 14
Blastoise defeats Scizor 19 - 11
Sharpedo defeats Krookodile 17 - 13
Mewtwo defeats Charmander 18 - 12
Kabutops defeats Zapdos 16 - 14
Bulbasaur defeats Tyranitar 17 - 13
Umbreon defeats Espeon 15 - 14
Scyther defeats Snorlax 21 - 9
Typhlosion defeats Heracross 16 - 13
Squirtle defeats Mew 17 - 13

Too much Articuno love on this board. Aside from that and Espeon losing the results were mostly good.

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Certainly wasn't expecting Charizard to get doubled like that, but then scores don't actually matter this round- only wins to losses, so getting doubled won't set it back much if at all.

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These are, perhaps, the best results ever. Articuno doubling arguably the most popular pokemon ever, and the ones I voted for that lost, lost to respectable opponents.

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Sooo close for Espeon :(

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From: Pokewars | Posted: 7/29/2011 5:31:29 AM | #146
These are, perhaps, the best results ever. Articuno doubling arguably the most popular pokemon ever, and the ones I voted for that lost, lost to respectable opponents.

wow. Articuno winning was great, but otherwise an awful day

Scizor, Houndoom, Tyranitar, Heracross all losing, that's 4 of my top 5 pokemon right there :(

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Alright, here's the deal. Starting tomorrow, I will again be gone for about a week. This time, however, internet access is expected. Since it has been so in the past, I see no reason why not to expect to be able to get on the internet this time. Hopefully, you won't notice anything different, but if a day or two goes by without a new topic or I mysteriously disappear for a week, that's why. In such an event, help keeping this topic alive is greatly appreciated.

I also figure that we should at least give everyone a bye week, meaning 25 days in the Round-Robin, and then go from there. I feel like that should be plenty, though, since this contest has already gone on long enough!

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A few major upsets in this one.

Round 4 Day 10 Results

Mew defeats Heracross 15 - 12
Typhlosion defeats Snorlax 14 - 13
Scyther defeats Espeon 16 - 11
Bulbasaur defeats Umbreon 14 - 13
Tyranitar defeats Kabutops 16 - 11
Charmander defeats Zapdos 14 - 13
Sharpedo defeats Mewtwo 14 - 13
Blastoise defeats Krookodile 15 - 12
Scizor defeats Dragonite 16 - 11
Articuno defeats Ampharos 16 - 11
Houndoom defeats Charizard 14 - 13
Gengar defeats Arcanine 17 - 10