Board 8 > Board 8 determines the Top 100 Pokemon! {Results and Discussion Topic 4}

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Da_J
08/12/11 9:07:00 PM
#251:


Current Standings (through Day 20)

1. Scyther (16-3)
2. Gengar (14-5)
3. Charizard (14-5)
4. Squirtle (13-4-2)
5. Articuno (13-5-1)
6. Blastoise (12-6-1)
7. Mewtwo (12-7-1)
8. Mew (11-7-1)
9. Umbreon (10-7-2)
10. Arcanine (11-8)
11. Scizor (11-8)
12. Espeon (10-7-2)
13. Zapdos (9-10-1)
14. Ampharos (9-9-1)
15. Houndoom (8-10-1)
16. Bulbasaur (8-10-1)
17. Dragonite (8-11)
18. Kabutops (8-11)
19. Typhlosion (6-9-4)
20. Tyranitar (6-12-2)
21. Charmander (6-13-1)
22. Snorlax (6-12-1)
23. Sharpedo (3-17)
24. Heracross (3-16)
25. Krookodile (1-16-2)

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GenesisSaga
08/12/11 9:26:00 PM
#252:


Hang in there, Arcanine. ~_~

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Da_J
08/13/11 6:48:00 AM
#253:


Round 4, Day 21 Results

Zapdos defeats Krookodile 17 - 12
Scizor defeats Tyranitar 15 - 14
Umbreon defeats Ampharos 16 - 13
Scyther defeats Charizard 15 - 14
Gengar defeats Typhlosion 16 - 13
Arcanine defeats Mew 16 - 13
Squirtle defeats Houndoom 18 - 11
Articuno defeats Heracross 22 - 7
Snorlax defeats Dragonite 16 - 13
Blastoise defeats Espeon 16 - 13
Bulbasaur defeats Sharpedo 17 - 12
Charmander defeats Kabutops 15 - 14

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swordz9
08/13/11 6:50:00 AM
#254:


At least half of those results are terrible.

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Da_J
08/13/11 6:58:00 AM
#255:


I know it. And for most of those "bad results," things started off so well in the first half of the vote!

With the win, Scyther maintains a two-game lead on Gengar, making him almost a lock for the #1 spot and essentially ending Charizard's hopes for such a position. Just 4 days remain.

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GenesisSaga
08/14/11 7:10:00 AM
#256:


Round 4, Day 22 Results:

Kabutops defeats Sharpedo 14 - 9
Bulbasaur defeats Blastoise 14 - 9
Espeon defeats Dragonite 12 - 11
Articuno defeats Snorlax 12 - 11
Houndoom defeats Heracross 13 - 10
Squirtle defeats Arcanine 14 - 9
Gengar defeats Mew 13 - 10
Charizard defeats Typhlosion 13 - 10
Scyther defeats Ampharos 12 - 11
Umbreon defeats Scizor 13 - 10
Krookodile defeats Tyranitar 14 - 9
Mewtwo defeats Zapdos 17 - 6

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speedpunk
08/14/11 12:47:00 PM
#257:


Terrible results except for Krookodile and Charizard... and Squirtle >.>

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GenesisSaga
08/14/11 12:49:00 PM
#258:


>________>

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XxmonsterxX
08/14/11 2:13:00 PM
#259:


So Mewtwo who got destroyed by Krookodile two rounds ago destroys Zapdos this round, who destroyed Krookodile last round.

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XxmonsterxX
08/16/11 1:01:00 AM
#260:


Round 4, Day 23 Results

Mewtwo defeats Tyranitar 14 - 8
Umbreon defeats Krookodile 13 - 9
Scyther defeats Scizor 13 - 9
Typhlosion defeats Ampharos 12 - 10
Charizard defeats Mew 12 - 10
Gengar defeats Squirtle 15 - 7
Heracross defeats Arcanine 12 - 10
Snorlax defeats Houndoom 13 - 9
Articuno defeats Espeon 14 - 8
Dragonite defeats Bulbasaur 13 - 9
Blastoise defeats Kabutops 12 - 10
Sharpedo defeats Charmander 12 - 10

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speedpunk
08/16/11 11:15:00 AM
#261:


Great round except for this.

Umbreon defeats Krookodile 13 - 9

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GenesisSaga
08/16/11 12:13:00 PM
#262:


Worst results ever. The best thing about that round was Scyther beating Scizor in the rematch. I believe they tied in Round 3 much to my chagrin.
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Da_J
08/16/11 1:58:00 PM
#263:


Yep, you heard it here, folks. With a win over last-place Krookodile, Scyther notches its #1 spot, as it is currently 2 games ahead of Gengar and 2 1/2 ahead of Articuno. There's nothing to say Scyther wouldn't still win out even if it gives away the two-game lead, but then it all comes down to tiebreaker points.

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Pokewars
08/16/11 2:08:00 PM
#264:


Scyther is a great choice no doubt. I would have liked to have seen maybe another format to see exactly who from the Top Five or whatever is the best, since a lot of the top pokemon had great winning streaks, but then either tied or lost to the bottom pokemon, and that's a bit of an anomaly that could screw with placement.

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Da_J
08/16/11 4:10:00 PM
#265:


Yeah, I know what you mean, but I really don't think we need to tack another round onto this contest. I figured that the Top 25 would already be enough of a tiebreaker, although I'll agree that this is probably not the most accurate Top 5. I think, however, that the voterbase is more to blame.

Meanwhile, Krookodile getting blessed by the "we don't want scyther as #1" sentiment

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GenesisSaga
08/16/11 4:14:00 PM
#266:


Da_J posted...
Meanwhile, Krookodile getting blessed by the "we don't want scyther as #1" sentiment

Yeah, you probably shouldn't have typed that little note at the beginning of the round. >_>
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Da_J
08/16/11 9:31:00 PM
#267:


I agree, but it's not as though that isn't public knowledge <_<

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XxmonsterxX
08/16/11 11:07:00 PM
#268:


Da_J posted...
Yep, you heard it here, folks. With a win over last-place Krookodile, Scyther notches its #1 spot, as it is currently 2 games ahead of Gengar and 2 1/2 ahead of Articuno. There's nothing to say Scyther wouldn't still win out even if it gives away the two-game lead, but then it all comes down to tiebreaker points.

Wait, how is it possible for Articuno to pass Scyther? Scyther has a 2 1/2 lead over Articuno with 2 matches to go. So if Articuno wins out and Scyther loses out, Scyther will be 16-5 and Articuno will be 15-5-1. Not to mention Scyther beat Articuno.

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GenesisSaga
08/17/11 9:32:00 AM
#269:


In a day of several close matches decided by a one-point lead, only one abstained vote, and one complete blowout, there was more than one upset. Also I almost missed one vote because it was misspelled >_>. A Day of Ones all around!

Round 4, Day 24 Results:

Charmander defeats Blastoise 16 - 13
Kabutops defeats Dragonite 16 - 13
Articuno destroys Bulbasaur 20 - 9
Espeon defeats Houndoom 15 - 13
Arcanine defeats Snorlax 16 - 13
Heracross defeats Gengar 15 - 14
Squirtle defeats Charizard 17 - 12
Ampharos defeats Mew 16 - 13
Typhlosion defeats Scizor 18 - 11
Scyther defeats Krookodile 15 - 14
Umbreon defeats Mewtwo 15 - 14
Tyranitar defeats Zapdos 17 - 12
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GenesisSaga
08/17/11 9:34:00 AM
#270:


Best results ever by the way.
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Da_J
08/17/11 10:17:00 AM
#271:


XxmonsterxX posted...
Da_J posted...
Yep, you heard it here, folks. With a win over last-place Krookodile, Scyther notches its #1 spot, as it is currently 2 games ahead of Gengar and 2 1/2 ahead of Articuno. There's nothing to say Scyther wouldn't still win out even if it gives away the two-game lead, but then it all comes down to tiebreaker points.

Wait, how is it possible for Articuno to pass Scyther? Scyther has a 2 1/2 lead over Articuno with 2 matches to go. So if Articuno wins out and Scyther loses out, Scyther will be 16-5 and Articuno will be 15-5-1. Not to mention Scyther beat Articuno.


For the purpose of determining computer rating, the program will sometimes put one Pokemon ahead of another if their records would be identical without ties. I know it would've still been a stretch, and unlikely given the way that Scyther performed, but it was still a possibility that Articuno could've gotten by on rating points, depending on how things shook out in the last two days.

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Da_J
08/17/11 10:21:00 AM
#272:


But apparently my ill-advised statement at the beginning of the last topic did not skew things in Krookodile's favor, as it seems that it was all Scyther down the stretch. At this point, he has the number 1 spot locked up. Articuno has a pretty good shot at #2 now, with losses for Gengar and Charizard really hurting them.

I'd prefer to start the final topic of the round closer to prime time, but thanks for the early tally! I will most likely throw the current standings up sometime later today. It'll be interesting to see how things end up.

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GenesisSaga
08/17/11 10:32:00 AM
#273:


Da_J posted...
But apparently my ill-advised statement at the beginning of the last topic did not skew things in Krookodile's favor, as it seems that it was all Scyther down the stretch. At this point, he has the number 1 spot locked up. Articuno has a pretty good shot at #2 now, with losses for Gengar and Charizard really hurting them.

By my count, Krookodile was ahead by at least one point for a significant portion (about half) of the round, but yeah Scyther caught up in the end. Yay Scyther and Articuno!!

I'd prefer to start the final topic of the round closer to prime time, but thanks for the early tally! I will most likely throw the current standings up sometime later today. It'll be interesting to see how things end up.

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Pokewars
08/17/11 11:38:00 AM
#274:


So it was possible for Articuno to take 1st if I had "strategically" voted for Krookodile? Lol, but I wouldn't do that, 'cause Scyther is cool.

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speedpunk
08/17/11 12:19:00 PM
#275:


GenesisSaga posted...
Best results ever by the way.

You misspelled "Worst".

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GenesisSaga
08/17/11 12:23:00 PM
#276:


No, I spelled best correctly. :D

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Da_J
08/17/11 3:34:00 PM
#277:


Pokewars posted...
So it was possible for Articuno to take 1st if I had "strategically" voted for Krookodile? Lol, but I wouldn't do that, 'cause Scyther is cool.

There was a slim chance, but I wouldn't have banked on it. Scyther has had such a strong performance and has such a high rating that I don't think Arti would've been able to overtake him anyway.

Just as Scyther is locked into first, Krookodile is also doomed to last. Which still makes him the 25th best Pokemon ever.

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XxmonsterxX
08/17/11 3:35:00 PM
#278:


It did manage to beat Mewtwo and TIE Articuno though and almost beat Scyther, Charizard, and Gengar.

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starfox2245
08/17/11 7:30:00 PM
#279:


Scyther defeats Krookodile 15 - 14

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Whiskey_Nick
08/17/11 7:46:00 PM
#280:


Interesting how these results compare to the top 100 Pokemon I did earlier this year

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Board_8%27s_Top_100_Pokemon

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Whiskey_Nick
08/17/11 7:52:00 PM
#281:


It is mostly the same Pokemon at the top though

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Da_J
08/17/11 7:52:00 PM
#282:


Ah yes, I do recall that happening a little while ago. I think it will be interesting indeed, in that this new list will look nothing like that one! Be it the more in-depth format, the voterbase, or the host, I think things took a turn for the worse this time around. But that remains to be seen!

Edit - Actually, outside of this round, the opinions really haven't been that bad in general. So we'll just have to see whether or not this list was an improvement upon the previous one. I've tried not even to look at the final list too much myself yet, as I want to be hit with the full list not too much before the rest of you are!

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XxmonsterxX
08/17/11 7:53:00 PM
#283:


Krookodile and Sharpedo not found lol

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Pokewars
08/17/11 7:57:00 PM
#284:


Whiskey_Nick posted...
Interesting how these results compare to the top 100 Pokemon I did earlier this year

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Board_8%27s_Top_100_Pokemon


I held off on voting for that one to actually figure out who I liked more and such, and ended up forgetting about it, lol.

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GenesisSaga
08/17/11 8:00:00 PM
#285:


Whiskey_Nick posted...
Interesting how these results compare to the top 100 Pokemon I did earlier this year

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Board_8%27s_Top_100_Pokemon


1. Charizard
3. Arcanine
4. Mewtwo
8. Jolteon
9. Vaporeon


O, how the Mighty have fallen...

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Da_J
08/17/11 8:03:00 PM
#286:


Well, Charizard looks to finish probably 5th in this contest, and Scyther and Arcanine have nearly swapped places. Not quite as many Eeveelutions to be seen, although Espeon did make it in this one.

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SpeedYoshi
08/18/11 5:25:00 PM
#287:


hell yeah scyther

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GenesisSaga
08/18/11 6:36:00 PM
#288:


I'm gonna let you guys know I can't tally right now. I'm in the middle of a movie I can't record. Unless everyone wants to wait another hour and a half, someone else might need to step in.

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Da_J
08/18/11 7:13:00 PM
#289:


I can't believe

IT'S FINALLY OVER

I should be able to tally up these final results in 15 minutes or so, and I plan to have the final list up over the weekend!

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Da_J
08/18/11 8:04:00 PM
#290:


With the last vote, Genesis was able to give Umbreon the win, pull Sharpedo up into a tie, and bring Scyther within one. Otherwise, not an overly eventful final day of voting. Other than the overall winner going down for just the 4th time. Oh, and Krookodile picking up a solid 3rd win of the round, which proves inconsequential since he was sitting 2 games out of 24th.


Umbreon defeats Zapdos 15 - 14
Mewtwo defeats Scyther 15 - 14
Krookodile defeats Typhlosion 16 - 13
Mew defeats Scizor 18 - 11
Squirtle defeats Ampharos 18 - 11
Charizard defeats Heracross 18 - 11
Gengar defeats Snorlax 16 - 13
Espeon defeats Arcanine 15 - 13
Bulbasaur defeats Houndoom 17 - 12
Articuno defeats Kabutops 20 - 10
Dragonite defeats Charmander 16 - 12
Sharpedo TIES Blastoise 14 - 14

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GenesisSaga
08/18/11 8:55:00 PM
#291:


Aw... what!?

Half of those results stink! =\

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swordz9
08/18/11 8:56:00 PM
#292:


Wow, only 2 bad outcomes in that update. I'm surprised.

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Chrono1219
08/18/11 8:56:00 PM
#293:


Yeah any match Articuno wins is bad.

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Pokewars
08/18/11 8:57:00 PM
#294:


^ What the....soooo baaad.

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swordz9
08/18/11 9:00:00 PM
#295:


Yeah, I can agree with that. I've always felt Articuno got way too much love here so it's nice seeing it lose matches.

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Leafeon13N
08/18/11 11:14:00 PM
#296:


how the hell can you guys hate on Articuno.

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barreldragon88
08/18/11 11:25:00 PM
#297:


Leafeon13N posted...
how the hell can you guys hate on Articuno.

Seriously.


Word.

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SuorGenoveffa
08/19/11 3:03:00 AM
#298:


Articuno hate really makes you lame guys.
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speedpunk
08/19/11 5:32:00 AM
#299:


These results... They please me.

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swordz9
08/19/11 10:56:00 AM
#300:


I don't really hate Articuno. I just think it's severely overrated on b8. It's not bad at all, but I probably wouldn't even have it in my top 100 Pokemon.

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