Board 8 > Board 8 determines the Top 100 Pokemon! {Results and Discussion Topic 4}

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Sharpedo defeats Mewtwo 14 - 13 Lol, come on

Houndoom defeats Charizard 14 - 13 Interesting

Gengar defeats Arcanine 17 - 10 Do you want the wrath of Gen to come down upon you?

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Yeah, I had suspected it for a while, but now it's official. This contest has gotten to the point where no one cares anymore.

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I care :(

Haha and I appreciate that very much!

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yessss Houndoom beat charizard

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Pokewars posted...
Gengar defeats Arcanine 17 - 10 Do you want the wrath of Gen to come down upon you?

Wrath? I have no wrath anymore. Nothing really phases me ever since I watched Arcanine lose to flipping Houndoom. After that, my expectations for my favorite pokémon putting up a decent performance reached an all-time low. Lessee... this is bound to be its... what? Third loss in a row? I'm gradually losing my ability to care about this thing anymore. >_>

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In all honesty, I'm always surprised at how well Arcanine actually does. The last three matches are pretty much the first time I've seen it perform the way I thought it would've performed before the contest.

Even its loss to Houndoom, it doesn't really make it look bad, it just seems like it stopped overperforming.

I disagree. Arcanine has always been a very popular pokémon, just not to the levels of Charizard and Mewtwo (and apparently Articuno on this board). It was pretty much proven to have decent amount of love by that other similar topic which I think was B8's Top 100 Pokémon. It ranked #3 after Articuno and above Mewtwo.

It was pretty much performing at exactly the level I expected and it's ranking was indicative of that: close to the top but never quite at the top.

Now it's experiencing an embarrassing drop in popularity or in supporters or both and it freaking sucks. It's now underperforming instead of performing at the level I've come to expect of it, and the poor votals as of late are more likely than not the cause of it, Mewtwo, and Charizard's recent uncharacteristic losses.

In fact the only "overrated" pokémon (as highly-ranked and well-beloved pokémon are so often called) that doesn't seem to be suffering popularity dips/downvoting is B8 favorite Articuno.

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Yeah, sorry Da_J. I just kind of lost interest when the Top 25 ended up being rather... boring and obvious for the most part. I guess I just don't really care where they all end up anymore.

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Yeah, and that's what I figured was largely the case now. Maybe this 4th Round was unnecessary. I'm still not sure. The format for this contest was drawn up from scratch, so if another one is held at some point in time to update the list, I'm sure countless improvements could be made. I just figured that the very top of the list is important enough to merit further voting to determine the specific order.

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Round 4 Day 11 Results

Arcanine defeats Charizard 14 - 13
Houndoom defeats Ampharos 14 - 13
Articuno defeats Scizor 18 - 9
Dragonite defeats Krookodile 17 - 10
Blastoise defeats Mewtwo 17 - 10
Zapdos defeats Sharpedo 14 - 13
Charmander defeats Tyranitar 14 - 13
Kabutops defeats Umbreon 17 - 10
Scyther defeats Bulbasaur 17 - 10
Espeon defeats Typhlosion 16 - 11
Mew defeats Snorlax 17 - 10
Squirtle defeats Heracross 18 - 9

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Current Ranking (through Day 11)
Note: Tiebrakers unknown/do not apply [Prevous rank]

1. Articuno (10-0) [3]
2. Scyther (9-1) [2]
3. Charizard (8-3) [1]
4. Scizor (8-3) [4]
5. Squirtle (7-2-1) [7]
6. Arcanine (7-3) [5]
7. Gengar (7-3) [8]
8. Ampharos (6-4-1) [6]
9. Mewtwo (6-4-1) [9]
10. Houndoom (6-4) [15]
11. Dragonite (6-4) [10]
12. Blastoise (6-4) [17]
13. Mew (5-4-1) [12]
14. Espeon (4-6-1) [14]
15. Bulbasaur (4-6-1) [20]
16. Zapdos (4-7) [13]
17. Typhlosion (3-4-3) [18]
18. Umbreon (3-4-2) [19]
19. Tyranitar (3-6-2) [16]
20. Charmander (3-7-1) [21]
21. Snorlax (3-7-1) [11]
22. Kabutops (2-8) [23]
23. Heracross (2-9) [22]
24. Sharpedo (2-9) [25]
25. Krookodile (0-10-1) [24]

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#. Pokemon: Difference (For-Against)

1. Articuno: 79 (203-124)
2. Scyther: 63 (193-130)
3. Scizor: 32 (191-159)
4. Charizard: 31 (190-159)
4. Squirtle: 31 (177-146)
6. Mewtwo: 26 (188-162)
7. Gengar: 16 (168-152)
7. Blastoise: 16 (166-150)
9. Arcanine: 11 (165-154)
10. Dragonite: 7 (163-156)
11. Mew: 6 (146-140)
12. Ampharos: 3 (176-173)
13. Houndoom: 2 (160-158)
14. Umbreon: -6 (155-161)
14. Espeon: -6 (171-177)
16. Typhlosion: -13 (153-166)
17. Bulbasaur: -14 (169-183)
18. Tyranitar: -18 (166-184)
19. Zapdos: -26 (162-188)
20. Kabutops: -28 (161-189)
21. Sharpedo: -32 (159-191)
22. Snorlax: -39 (155-194)
23. Charmander: -44 (153-197)
24. Heracross: -49 (150-199)
25. Krookodile: -52 (149-201)

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GenesisSaga posted...
I disagree. Arcanine has always been a very popular pokémon, just not to the levels of Charizard and Mewtwo (and apparently Articuno on this board). It was pretty much proven to have decent amount of love by that other similar topic which I think was B8's Top 100 Pokémon. It ranked #3 after Articuno and above Mewtwo.

It was pretty much performing at exactly the level I expected and it's ranking was indicative of that: close to the top but never quite at the top.

Now it's experiencing an embarrassing drop in popularity or in supporters or both and it freaking sucks. It's now underperforming instead of performing at the level I've come to expect of it, and the poor votals as of late are more likely than not the cause of it, Mewtwo, and Charizard's recent uncharacteristic losses.

In fact the only "overrated" pokémon (as highly-ranked and well-beloved pokémon are so often called) that doesn't seem to be suffering popularity dips/downvoting is B8 favorite Articuno.

I'm not talking about the board specifically. Before coming to this board, all signs pointed to me that Arcanine was just slightly more popular than Ninetales, then when I came here and saw it beasting through the "Save my" and this contest I was like "...whoa?". I knew it was popular, but Charizard-Mewtwo-Articuno popular? Didn't expect that.

I wasn't aware Articuno was as popular as it was before coming to this board. It's probably my... third favorite Legendary after Suicune and Mew/Lugia. On B8 it seems to be in almost everyone's top 20.

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Slight error with the updated standings. Here is the correct version.

Current Ranking (through Day 11)
Note: Tiebrakers unknown/do not apply [Prevous rank]

1. Articuno (10-0) [3]
2. Scyther (9-1) [2]
3. Charizard (8-3) [1]
4. Scizor (8-3) [4]
5. Squirtle (7-2-1) [7]
6. Arcanine (7-3) [5]
7. Gengar (7-3) [8]
8. Ampharos (6-4-1) [6]
9. Mewtwo (6-4-1) [9]
10. Houndoom (6-4) [15]
11. Dragonite (6-4) [10]
12. Blastoise (6-4) [17]
13. Mew (5-4-1) [12]
14. Espeon (4-6-1) [14]
15. Bulbasaur (4-6-1) [20]
16. Zapdos (4-7) [13]
17. Typhlosion (3-4-3) [18]
18. Umbreon (3-5-2) [19]
19. Tyranitar (3-6-2) [16]
20. Charmander (3-7-1) [21]
21. Snorlax (3-7-1) [11]
22. Kabutops (3-8) [23]
23. Heracross (2-9) [22]
24. Sharpedo (2-9) [25]
25. Krookodile (0-10-1) [24]

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#. Pokemon: Difference (For-Against)

1. Articuno: 79 (203-124)
2. Scyther: 63 (193-130)
3. Scizor: 32 (191-159)
4. Charizard: 31 (190-159)
4. Squirtle: 31 (177-146)
6. Mewtwo: 26 (188-162)
7. Gengar: 16 (168-152)
7. Blastoise: 16 (166-150)
9. Arcanine: 11 (165-154)
10. Dragonite: 7 (163-156)
11. Mew: 6 (146-140)
12. Ampharos: 3 (176-173)
13. Houndoom: 2 (160-158)
14. Umbreon: -6 (155-161)
14. Espeon: -6 (171-177)
16. Typhlosion: -13 (153-166)
17. Bulbasaur: -14 (169-183)
18. Tyranitar: -18 (166-184)
19. Zapdos: -26 (162-188)
20. Kabutops: -28 (161-189)
21. Sharpedo: -32 (159-191)
22. Snorlax: -39 (155-194)
23. Charmander: -44 (153-197)
24. Heracross: -49 (150-199)
25. Krookodile: -52 (149-201)

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I've never liked Arcanine much, and it always surprised me how well it was doing here. And it's still overperforming IMO. I mean seriously it's in 6th and you're complaining?

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If that next character battle ever rolls around I believe I'll throw a nomination to Arcanine and Articuno...maybe Gengar even. They would probably be able to knock some fodder out.

Also, and unrelated, Chocobo is my dark horse. I bet it could make it past 2 rounds easy enough.

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From: GenesisSaga | #805
I wasn't aware Articuno was as popular as it was before coming to this board. It's probably my... third favorite Legendary after Suicune and Mew/Lugia. On B8 it seems to be in almost everyone's top 20.

It's really on the board. Overall Zapdos has always been the more popular bird, and it kind of flip flops between Moltress and Articuno. Sharpedo is another pokemon that seems to get a lot of love on the board then elsewhere. Also, it's weird to see Typhlosion in over Blaziken Most of the pokemon in the top 25 are typical though.

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Squirtle defeats Snorlax 15 - 9
Mew defeats Espeon 15 - 9
Bulbasaur defeats Typhlosion 13 - 11
Scyther defeats Kabutops 18 - 6
Umbreon defeats Charmander 16 - 8
Tyranitar defeats Sharpedo 13 - 11
Blastoise TIES Zapdos 12 - 12
Dragonite defeats Mewtwo 13 - 11
Articuno TIES Krookodile 12 - 12
Scizor defeats Houndoom 15 - 9
Arcanine defeats Ampharos 13 - 11
Gengar defeats Charizard 15 - 9


Thus ends the last perfect record. At the hands of 1-10 Krookodile.

<_<

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I know, RIGHT???

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Da_J posted...
Articuno TIES Krookodile 12 - 12

Thus ends the last perfect record. At the hands of 1-10 Krookodile.

<_<

Not gonna lie: that's hilarious. But yeah see how the low votals are skewing things?

Scizor defeats Houndoom 15 - 9

Boo.

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At least it was only a tie and not.....*shudders at the very thought*

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Current Standings (through Day 12)

1. Articuno (10-0-1)
2. Scyther (10-1)
3. Scizor (9-3)
4. Squirtle (8-2-1)
5. Gengar (8-3)
6. Arcanine (8-3)
7. Charizard (8-4)
8. Blastoise (6-4-1)
9. Mewtwo (6-5-1)
10. Ampharos (6-5-1)
11. Mew (6-4-1)
12. Dragonite (6-5)
13. Houndoom (6-5)
14. Bulbasaur (5-6-1)
15. Tyranitar (4-6-2)
16. Umbreon (4-5-2)
17. Espeon (4-7-1)
18. Typhlosion (3-5-3)
19. Zapdos (4-7-1)
20. Charmander (3-8-1)
21. Snorlax (3-8-1)
22. Kabutops (3-9)
23. Heracross (2-9)
24. Sharpedo (2-10)
25. Krookodile (0-10-2)

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I thought I voted that round but I never did. I was on around the time it ended too. Oops.
I wouldve voted Articuno too though the thought of undefeated #1 losing to the only winless Pokemon wouldve been so tempting...

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If someone within reach of a computer (and working ctrl and f keys) could tally the past round, that'd be awesome.

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Eww don't like the current standings much at all so far.

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Ill try to tally them (unless someone already did) >__>

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I did!

Round 4, day 13 Results

Gengar defeats Ampharos 16-12
Scizor defeats Arcanine 15-13
Houndoom defeats Krookodile 21-7
Mewtwo defeats Articuno 15-13
Zapdos defeats Dragonite 16-12
Blastoise defeats Tyranitar 18-10
Umbreon defeats Sharpedo 15-12
Scyther defeats Charmander 16-12
Kabutops defeats Typhlosion 14-13
Bulbasaur defeats Mew 17-11
Squirtle and Espeon TIE 14-14
Snorlax defeats Heracross 15-13

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Poor Krookodile got tripled? I like Houndoom but damn! Scizor is so meh. Bleh.

And Mewtwo broke Arty's undefeated streak when Charizard couldn't? What?

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Mewtwo > Articuno > Sharpedo > Mewtwo

>__>

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I've pretty much lost any interest I've had in this project the last few days

not because my favorite hasn't been doing well so much as the fact that the voterbase is thoroughly unrepresentative of the board

(seriously, who are half of these people voting?)

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Yep, I've heard your concerns, but I don't know what exactly I could've done about that. Advertise? It's not like I can really screen the voting very accurately or anything. I knew coming in that no one would like the final list anyway, but it's just unfortunate that only about half the voters are actually regular B8ers. It's too bad that despite the effort I had to put in, just not enough users were interested enough I guess.

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I think the issue is that a 25 day Round Robin is a bit much for most people!

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Very true, very true, but the format that we have used was approved by the 4 people that actually voiced an opinion at the beginning of the contest! Like I've said before, if another contest occurs, I'm sure there are plenty of changes that could be made to improve it. It's not as though we didn't have our fair share of random people voting in the previous rounds either!

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How does Krookodile get tripled by Houndoom, yet tie Articuno? Ugh...

And of all pokemon to beat Articuno, I'm glad it was another favourite of mine, Mewtwo.

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oh, I'm aware that the random voters problem is unavoidable - it just becomes a lot more noticeable when votals decline

voter fatigue is a difficult issue, as there really isn't much of a solution - once it hits, it's not gonna go away

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Indeed, indeed. Which is why I was not sure having two long rounds in succession was a great idea, but no one voiced any contrary opinions at the start of the contest. Being that this is the first one of this style, I had to come up with the formatting from scratch, so obviously there's plenty of room for improvement! Thanks for the comments, though.

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Round 4 Day 14 Results

Espeon defeats Heracross 15 - 13
Squirtle defeats Bulbasaur 19 - 9
Kabutops defeats Mew 16 - 12
Typhlosion defeats Charmander 15 - 13
Scyther defeats Sharpedo 17 - 11
Blastoise defeats Umbreon 16 - 12
Tyranitar defeats Dragonite 16 - 12
Articuno defeats Zapdos 15 - 13
Mewtwo defeats Houndoom 16 - 12
Arcanine defeats Krookodile 20 - 8
Gengar defeats Scizor 18 - 10
Charizard defeats Ampharos 17 - 11

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Its Treeko, you Idiot, Spell it wirte, or dont spell it at all. - Bpluswhite

I've pretty much lost all faith in this contest. I'll continue to vote but Krookodile is getting ****ed so hard. And not in the good way.

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Round 4 Day 15 Results

Charizard defeats Scizor 16 - 9
Gengar defeats Krookodile 13 - 12
Mewtwo defeats Arcanine 13 - 12
Zapdos defeats Houndoom 14 - 11
Articuno defeats Tyranitar 15 - 10
Umbreon defeats Dragonite 17 - 8
Scyther defeats Blastoise 14 - 11
Typhlosion defeats Sharpedo 13 - 12
Mew defeats Charmander 16 - 9
Kabutops defeats Squirtle 14 - 11
Bulbasaur defeats Heracross 14 - 11
Espeon defeats Snorlax 14 - 11

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XxmonsterxX posted...
Round 4 Day 15 Results

Gengar defeats Krookodile 13 - 12
Mewtwo defeats Arcanine 13 - 12

They only lost by one flipping vote!? Dammit!

Typhlosion defeats Sharpedo 13 - 12

It only won by one flipping vote!? Dammit!

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GenesisSaga posted...
Typhlosion defeats Sharpedo 13 - 12

It only won by one flipping vote!? Dammit!

At least it won, so I can't really complain. It could have been worse. Typhlosion could have tied AGAIN.

So when will Krookodile get its first win? Or will it not win at all?

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Round 4, Day 16 results

Snorlax defeats Bulbasaur 14-9
Kabutops defeats Heracross 14-9
Squirtle defeats Charmander 12-11
Mew defeats Sharpedo 12-11
Blastoise defeats Typhlosion 13-10
Dragonite defeats Scyther 12-11
Umbreon defeats Articuno 14-9
Houndoom defeats Tyranitar 13-10
Zapdos defeats Arcanine 12-11
Gengar defeats Mewtwo 12-11
Charizard defeats Krookodile 12-11
Ampharos defeats Scizor 12-11

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Snorlax defeats Bulbasaur 14-9
Dragonite defeats Scyther 12-11
Umbreon defeats Articuno 14-9
Gengar defeats Mewtwo 12-11

Ugh.

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Dragonite defeats Scyther 12-11
Zapdos defeats Arcanine 12-11
Charizard defeats Krookodile 12-11

Ugh.

So close, and yet so far... Always.

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Scyther and Scizor losing by one :(

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I suppose the 200th post is a good time for a standings update.


Current Standings (through Day 16)

1. Scyther (13-2)
2. Articuno (12-2-1)
3. Gengar (12-3)
4. Charizard (11-4)
5. Squirtle (10-3-2)
6. Scizor (10-6)
7. Blastoise (9-5-1)
8. Mewtwo (9-6-1)
9. Arcanine (9-6)
10. Mew (8-6-1)
11. Houndoom (8-7)
12. Umbreon (7-6-2)
13. Zapdos (7-8-1)
14. Bulbasaur (7-8-1)
15. Ampharos (7-7-1)
16. Dragonite (7-8)
17. Kabutops (7-9)
18. Espeon (6-7-2)
19. Typhlosion (5-7-3)
20. Tyranitar (5-9-2)
21. Snorlax (5-9-1)
22. Charmander (3-12-1)
23. Heracross (2-13)
24. Sharpedo (2-14)
25. Krookodile (0-14-2)

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