Board 8 > Sonic 3 & Knuckles, what an amazing game

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Hmmmm...

Still not sure.

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I figure I ought to play through 3D Blast just the once. It's been so long and I still haven't.

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Oh well, maybe some other time!

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Length is the worst part about 3d Blast, IMO. I enjoy the game's first few zones but it definitely ends up being much longer than 2 hours unless you're being very methodical about exploring and finishing each act. Actually I'll be honest, I've never finished the game all at once, I've only played the second half of the game with codes. There are some really fun levels back there though...

Okay well since someone else said things...

Post I deleted said the exact opposite pretty much. (I guess I revealed as much on my list >_>)
The first 3 levels range from boring to horrible. Thats why it feels long at first but the later levels kick ass. Every level after that ranges from great to awesome imo. Also having to use codes 'lol'.

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Just played S3&K again the past couple of nights and decided to call it quits during the last act of death egg. Was really fun! But... The super long acts in S&K can be extremely tiresome (sandopolis act 2, basically). Looking at it objectively, the fact that sandopolis 1 and 2 are so different should make the long acts okay...but it doesn't. Each act is still just too long to go without a break. Why does there have to be so many of the rising-sand sequences, and so many of the push-the-switch, then run sequences? There are some great level design tricks going on here, but I think Sonic 2 gets it better. Hill Top Zone, they just do a rising lava sequence once, and that's enough. More exciting and memorable that way anyway, and keeps the game speedy.

Hill Top zone also makes you do the See-saw thing like 10 times (and it was already done in Sonic 1) plus yeah it does rising crap twice and riding those platforms a ton of times. But the point is for Sandopolis its always a little different, and the level is always quite intense and exciting. Longer levels only make it worse if you don't like the design since its something you dont like for longer... Otherwise, longer levels are a ****ing blast... why put an early end to the fun, especially when its welcome isn't stayed out (and it never is).

Long levels suck in 2D. Same with the carnival night zones, act 2 takes forever. Same with marble garden...And what about people's favorite Sonic levels? Let's see, Emerald Hill, Chemical Plant, Ice Cap 2, Stardust Speedway, Star Light Zone, they're all shorter levels compared to the other levels in their games...even Sky Sanctuary probably benefits greatly from being a one-act zone.

See above~ long live long levels. Emerald Hill sucks. Chemical Plant Act 1 is very boring. Ice Cap 2 is definitely NOT short, especially if you like to explore, like me. Stardust Speedway is short because you go so damn fast through the level.

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Too bad the two worst zones in S3&K are the longest ones though

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But really, it doesn't matter as long as they're fun.

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3D Blast Saturn has the best Special Stages in the whole series alongside CD's, IMO.

wait you're saying the Sonic CD special stages are good?

my friend and I played SCD earlier, we were like "these things are the awfullest thing ever"

Man, I used to play this SEGA Sonic Arcade in the leisure mall when I was a kid.
Never made it through the first stage.
God, the rolling trackball control is not easy, making this game even more difficult.

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Man, I couldn't imagine playing a Sonic game with a rolling trackball.

Also: Waaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaah! Waaaaaaaah!

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SCD special stages are awful! Worst in the series wouldn't be a big stretch! D:

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what? SCD's definitely the best special stages.

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CD is the one classic sonic game i have never played. I also haven't played any of the modern Sonic games past Heroes, thankfully.

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KingButz posted...
CD is the one classic sonic game i have never played. I also haven't played any of the modern Sonic games past Heroes, thankfully.

Wow, you managed to play Heroes.

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Heroes is great, plays exactly like the old games, but the team system is a really cool twist

Sonic fans are bandwagoners (like most video game fans)

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I found Sonic Heroes to be...not good.

Not terrible though, I guess. It's no Shadow or 06.

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the Genesis games only please

Colors is a worthy successor.

I'm also one of the few people who likes SA1 better than SA2.

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I bought Colors but couldn't get into it. it was at that point I realized that even if it's the good kind of Sonic 3D game it probably won't be my cup of tea!

That is sad.

Because it's really good!

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yeah oh well. Sonic Generations looks kind of interesting though. I might dig the old school parts at least.

I'd like to see something other than Green Hill or City Escape, preferably a level that isn't quite as straightforward as those two.

Hopefully Sky Sanctuary.

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I wish I had a single drop of nostalgia attached to City Escape. Alas, I do not and so it doesn't sound as great as I'd expected.

I dunno, Sonic songs with vocals have yet to win me over once.

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I'm not a big fan of vocals in Sonic games either. City Escape is at least bearable though, compared to some of the other stuff out there.

Although I feel some of the enjoyment people claim to have for Sonic music is in the ironical sense.

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(Like Pumpkin Hill)

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Although "His World" isn't too bad.

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Assuming you mean the instrumental version or Solaris Phase 2!
Wait no. Those would be "great" imo.

Lyrical version "isn't too bad" if you meant that (not Zebrahead though xfd).

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Aquatic Mine > Pumpkin Hill anyday

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I still can't believe Screw Attack claimed Hydrocity is that bad.

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From: Jeff Zero | #281
I still can't believe Screw Attack claimed Hydrocity is that bad.

I know, right? Hydrocity on a worst water levels of all-time list? It should be on a best water levels list!

I mean, who seriously hates Hydrocity because it's a water level?

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I understood Hydrocity was a stand-in for all Sonic water zones... but why that level? Hydrocity and SCD's Tidal Tempest are the only water zones of the classic era I like! Must be the name which just screams "water" (though Aquatic Ruin would be a much better example...).

Vocal songs, well, I have Live and Learn and both versions of Sonic Boom in my MP3 player.(I find Escape from the City catchy, but that level brings so many bad memories - I'm stuck in Mission 4 since 2008! - that I can't bring myself into downloading it).

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Seriously, if you're going to pick a Sonic water level, pick the one that is unquestionably the most hated (Labyrinth).

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Grrrrrrrr

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You know what other cool game Sega made?

Skies of Arcadia.

What a cool game.

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I find Escape from the City catchy, but that level brings so many bad memories - I'm stuck in Mission 4 since 2008!

Wait, really? It's not that hard.

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The problem is that by the time Sonic reaches the truck, I never have enough time. I probably need to get back into trying to finish that mission.

Also, I wonder if someday I try to get times compared to these guys:
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I think I could potentially match that Knuckles Hidden Palace time!

The rest, forget about it.

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Although I don't know how someone managed 30-something seconds on Lava Reef Act 2 with Sonic. Does that not include the boss or something?

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Because there's no way you can beat the Lava Reef Act 2 boss in less than 30 seconds.

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Hmmmm...

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Man, I wish those times had vids to go with them!

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glitch through the wall or something, maybe

Some have videos... http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/sonic_&_knuckles

I even watched one of Lava Reef 2, they use a glitch to skip the boss:

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Reminder: Skies of Arcadia is still an awesome game

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Also, neat glitch

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Fun fact: did you know that Marble Garden Act I has 8 Giant Rings? With enough patience, you can become Super and get a free fifty rings all in one level!

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There's a staggering number of other ways to go in Hydrocity and Marble Garden. Marble Garden yeah, that level is humongous.

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