Board 8 > Best. Blitzball Player. EVER (in FFX). - Bracket and Discussion

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snowpork
07/03/11 7:44:00 AM
#1:


First things first, this is the account I will be using to run this tournament. Hopefully the reason why should be easy to see. Secondly, the bracket has been made!

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=404111

Alright, some notes about the bracket:
1. This is my first time ever using BracketMaker, so if something appears off, it could be that. But I think everything should look fine.
2. I seeded the players myself, trying to have as little bias as possible. If you see any major problem with a seed (not a matchup), and there is enough chatter for a change, I'll attempt to do that.
3. To determine the bracket position and matchups, I took the seeding list and randomized it inside each seed on random.org. (so I took the 1 seed list, randomized it, and then entered them in the bracket positions top to bottom).
4. I will not play around with matchups, only seeds. I don't want it to seem like I'm trying to give my, or anybody's, favorite players an easier path.

I believe predictions are enabled, so feel free to do that. The first matchup will probably be up sometime on Tuesday (July 5th), Wednesday (July 6th) at the latest. The way matches will work is a strict 24 hour voting period. No votes even a second after 24 hours will be allowed. I may make an exception if votals are really low.

One final thing I would like to say: this is a popularity contest. You will be voting for your favorite blitzer in each matchup based on whatever criteria makes them your favorite.

I hope this can be a fun tournament full of pointless banter on how awesome or not awesome blitzball and blitzball players are. I'm going to set a link over on the FFX Blitzball Board, which would hopefully get, like 1 person over here to vote consistently. Other than that one guy, it's all up to you, Board 8, to determine who the Best. Blitzball Player. Ever (in FFX) is!
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LeonhartFour
07/03/11 11:03:00 AM
#2:


Datto a 3 seed? Bleh, he was always my least favorite Auroch.

Although I approve of Graav vs. Bickson in round 1 so we're guaranteed to get rid of one right away.

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snowpork
07/03/11 1:40:00 PM
#3:


raise awareness, yo.

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snowpork
07/03/11 1:43:00 PM
#4:


Also, here's a better bracket link. I wish I could edit it into the first post.

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=404111

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M_Infernum
07/03/11 1:57:00 PM
#5:


My predictions are in. I tried to base all my decisions on overall usefulness from 1-99. So therefore...
Winner = Nimrook
That's who won on my bracket.

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Jeff Zero
07/03/11 1:58:00 PM
#6:


go my jassu

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ZaziGuado
07/03/11 5:39:00 PM
#7:


I should tag this topic with this account

(stealth bump for awareness)

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GANON1025
07/03/11 5:40:00 PM
#8:


where's jecht

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ZaziGuado
07/03/11 5:43:00 PM
#9:


I was in a coffee shop, running away from home when I heard the news. Our hero, Jecht, gone, vanished into thin air!

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vcharon
07/03/11 5:45:00 PM
#10:


Miyu Miyu MIYU

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Chrono1219
07/03/11 5:47:00 PM
#11:


Why is Nadia only a 9 seed? She's a top 10 percent player stat wise mid game or so.

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voltch
07/03/11 5:47:00 PM
#12:


STATS ARE NOT EVERYTHING!

It's about the BONDS you've made with the players.

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ZaziGuado
07/03/11 5:50:00 PM
#13:


Naida was hard for me to seed. I know she's a popular "optimal team" choice, but I didn't know how "popular" in general she was exactly. She would be one of my first seed changes if I were to make any, but unless there are others that think her seed is too high, I'll probably keep her where she is.

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Chrono1219
07/03/11 5:52:00 PM
#14:


From: voltch | #052
STATS ARE NOT EVERYTHING!

It's about the BONDS you've made with the players.


She's a female in a bikini.

That's all you should need.

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GANON1025
07/03/11 5:54:00 PM
#15:


you know what player i had a strong bond with?? JECHT but i guess he's just TOO GOOD for this contest

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vcharon
07/03/11 6:03:00 PM
#16:


voltch posted...
STATS ARE NOT EVERYTHING!

It's about the BONDS you've made with the players.


p much.

I know Miyu ends up not too good at high levels, but really any goalie will work so long as you have good offense. Miyu is a cool crusader girl; gotta love that, plus on my first playthrough helped me a lot because she's good to use in low and mid-levels.

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most_games_r_ok
07/03/11 6:07:00 PM
#17:


tag

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ZaziGuado
07/03/11 10:05:00 PM
#18:


I feel one more bump for awareness will be nice for tonight.

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ZaziGuado
07/04/11 6:20:00 PM
#19:


Oh man this starts tomorrow. I bet you are all stoked, just like I am.

Also, let me note right now (as well as in the "official" rules that will be posted in each topic): The time in which matches will be going up is going to be inconsistent. I cannot help this. I will shoot for something like 6pm CST every day, but I may be early, I may be later, or I may miss a day all together. I'll do my best to be consistent.

This being said, if anybody wants to be my stand-in "tally the votes and put up the new match" person, you can let me know (here or on AIM) and you can do that when I need you to.

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TheConductorSix
07/04/11 6:39:00 PM
#20:


1.so glad you have this account. i'm sick of people calling you zazi!

2.you know how I feel about the Bball so let's do this!

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ZaziGuado
07/04/11 6:44:00 PM
#21:


You (and everyone else) should do predix, then!

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WiggumFan267
07/04/11 7:26:00 PM
#22:


ya go my eigaar

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snowpork
07/06/11 3:23:00 PM
#23:


Day 1 Results:
(8) Jumal defeats (9) Zalitz 9-2
(12)Zamzi Ronso defeats (5) Tatts 6-5

My comments:
Match 1: I was pleased when this match was randomed because both of these guys are similar. They are both easily obtainable in Luca as FAs, and both are quite good at their respective positions in the early game. How lopsided this match was surprised me, but I guess people want relief from Keepa more often than they want relief from Jassu or Botta.

Match 2: This result was probably a combination of overrating Tatts and underrating Zamzi. I figured Tatts had that "being good" advantage, along with having Invisible Shot. But at the same time, I guess I forgot to consider the mere exposure effect with Zamzi (you encounter him often and begin to develop a preference for him), as well as the "he's a big ass Ronso" effect. Tatts is also out of the way in Kilika, so he's not played as often as I assumed.

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Jeff Zero
07/06/11 3:28:00 PM
#24:


This early into the competition I think you might also figure that some folks who don't know too much about the who's-who of blitzball might just look at the "Ronso" at the end of someone's name, recall Kimahri and go with that.

I'm a bit surprised by the first match's lopsidedness as well.

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Maniac64
07/06/11 3:31:00 PM
#25:


Found this on the first day, Awesome!


as well as the "he's a big ass Ronso" effect.

That's pretty much what did it for me. That and never really playing as or against Zalitz to my memory.

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TimJab
07/06/11 3:31:00 PM
#26:


Oh man how did I miss this.

IMO you should use these in the voting topics:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Jumal
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zalitz

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zamzi_Ronso
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Tatts

I assume it has most if not all of the players.

Go Kyou IMO.

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LeonhartFour
07/06/11 3:32:00 PM
#27:


I've never been a big fan of Ronso characters in blitzball because they're so stinkin' slow.

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snowpork
07/06/11 3:41:00 PM
#28:


From: TimJab | #026
Oh man how did I miss this.

IMO you should use these in the voting topics:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Jumal
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zalitz

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zamzi_Ronso
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Tatts

I assume it has most if not all of the players.

Go Kyou IMO.


I am using the pics from there, but yeah I don't know why it didn't occur to me to just link to the wiki pages. I guess I just like having a lot of creative control, but it'd definitely provide more clarity if I just stuck to the pages. Will do from now on.

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snowpork
07/06/11 3:52:00 PM
#29:


I recruited the entire Ronso team once. It was an interesting experience. There was a lot of breaking tackles. Facing the Guados was annoying, yet sometimes comical.

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snowpork
07/07/11 3:33:00 PM
#30:


Pending Day 2 Results:
(4) Vuroja defeats (13) Balgerda 10-2
(3) Rin defeats (14) Shuu 11-1

My comments:
Match 1: No surprises here, other than some people actually giving a crap about Balgerda. I guess I have my own personal bias against her, but I think this was a fair result.

Match 2: Once again, no surprises. I thought I might've underrated Shuu a bit, but nobody said anything about her. Either that means I rated her correctly, or Rin is just that powerful and people weren't experiencing any ambivalence at all.

Also, we improved by one votal! Yay!

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LeonhartFour
07/07/11 3:34:00 PM
#31:


"Some people"

I never get credit for anything

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KingButz
07/07/11 3:36:00 PM
#32:


tag

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snowpork
07/07/11 3:37:00 PM
#33:


I'm above singling people out.

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Jeff Zero
07/07/11 3:37:00 PM
#34:


I have a thing against basically all the default Goers players, so bear that in mind going forward.

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SpeedYoshi
07/07/11 3:44:00 PM
#35:


ew rin winning in a blow out

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ZaziGuado
07/07/11 3:46:00 PM
#36:


I understand if you dislike Rin. I mean, the guy did force you to play SPHERE BREAK! instead of Blitzball in FFX-2.

That was a travesty.

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Jeff Zero
07/07/11 3:47:00 PM
#37:


X-2 hahahahaha

haha

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SpeedYoshi
07/07/11 3:48:00 PM
#38:


'your patronage is greatly appreciated'

aka

im ripping you off and there's nothing you can do about it

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LeonhartFour
07/07/11 3:49:00 PM
#39:


Rin also devised that dastardly plan in FFX-2 on the Mi'ihen Highroad, and he would've gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids!

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Jeff Zero
07/07/11 3:52:00 PM
#40:


LeonhartFour posted...
Rin also devised that dastardly plan in FFX-2 on the Mi'ihen Highroad, and he would've gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for those meddling kids!

X-2 hahahahahaha

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ZaziGuado
07/07/11 3:54:00 PM
#41:


Jeff Zero laughs at your foreign language.

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LeonhartFour
07/07/11 3:54:00 PM
#42:


Deranged laughing is the pretty standard reaction for people who've spent too much time playing FFX-2

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Calintares
07/07/11 4:03:00 PM
#43:


The final ought to be Nimock vs Brother, either could take the title, but I'd prefer Nimrock, as I've never let in a single goal with him as my keeper.

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ZaziGuado
07/07/11 4:05:00 PM
#44:


Remember that it's a subjective contest, so they need to have the SWAG to win as well as the SKILL.

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SpeedYoshi
07/07/11 4:05:00 PM
#45:


brother was how i got my highest score in bb
like 14-0 or something

although rooting for a wakka v kyou/ropp(or someone) final

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LeonhartFour
07/07/11 4:06:00 PM
#46:


Tidus got dis

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most_games_r_ok
07/07/11 4:08:00 PM
#47:


I think Nimrook has an easy match in the finals tbh

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ZaziGuado
07/07/11 4:11:00 PM
#48:


My ideal Final Four is (was) Tatts, Nimrook, anyone but Brother, and Zazi/Kyou.

And yeah, Nimrook looks to have a pretty nice road. That's just how the randomizing came out. But to be fair, after the upper tiers of popular characters (which I would consider being Nimrook, Tidus, Wakka, Brother, Ropp), it gets a lot harder to gauge strength.

I really hate that potential Zazi/Kyou matchup, though. If I had more control (ie, felt it fair to change the bracket at all), I would've put those two in separate regions.

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TimJab
07/08/11 7:41:00 AM
#49:


ropp owns

i had no idea other people liked him and kyou the best

they were always my two defenders

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SpeedYoshi
07/08/11 11:22:00 AM
#50:


I would use kyou as goalie early on, he would obliterate keepa

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