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JaKyL25
07/14/11 6:04:00 AM
#51:


Undertaker is "out injured" in a sense, but yeah, JoMo is the big missing piece right now.

Raw has "enough" faces, they're just not utilized right. On SD, I could actually see them testing out Sheamus as a face, to be honest.

When you just imagine him going up against the other top SD heels (vs. Christian, vs. Henry, vs. Wade), it feels like in every instance the crowd would side with Sheamus. Since going to SD he's been vicious but never underhanded or overly cruel.

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Dantezoid
07/14/11 6:06:00 AM
#52:


I've been waiting for the fabled Sheamus face turn since king of the ring!

It really would give SD a good mix of heel/face

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JaKyL25
07/14/11 6:07:00 AM
#53:


Even if it meant he had to apologize to Hornswoggle? <_<

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Dantezoid
07/14/11 6:07:00 AM
#54:


then drew can turn face on raw and we can finally get the Sheamus/Drew tag team

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Dantezoid
07/14/11 6:08:00 AM
#55:


not even faces apologize to hornswoggle

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JaKyL25
07/14/11 6:12:00 AM
#56:


What's funny is that they already had this problem when they turned Christian heel and made it worse.

I think maybe the new head writer on SD likes Christian enough to realize that if he didn't turn him heel he'd just end up being the guy heels went through on their way to earning a title shot against Orton. <_<

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muddersmilk
07/14/11 6:13:00 AM
#57:


I'm really not sure how Sheamus would work as a face.

But I want to see it.

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JaKyL25
07/14/11 6:15:00 AM
#58:


Just kick heel asses instead of face ones.

I mean, somehow Kane works as a face. Gotta believe that Sheamus can.

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RaidenZeroX
07/14/11 6:51:00 AM
#59:


tag

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dragon22391
07/14/11 7:04:00 AM
#60:


Thinking about a Sheamus/Drew tag team got me thinking about the tag division, which made me think about them potentially signing KoW.

And now I'm loving the idea of a Sheamus/Claudio feud.

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muddersmilk
07/14/11 7:30:00 AM
#61:


I mean, somehow Kane works as a face. Gotta believe that Sheamus can.

Good point.

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SHINE GET 64
07/14/11 7:32:00 AM
#62:


just saw The Rock's response to Cena's Austrailia rant.


so good

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X_Dante_X
07/14/11 7:40:00 AM
#63:


Thought: Punk leaving the WWE with the title doesn't mean cena will be fired.

All punk has to do is come out and announce he's taking the title back to his apartment with him, and that it'll stay in chicago with him!

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X_Dante_X
07/14/11 7:54:00 AM
#64:


hey someone in the illinois area, get me an autograph

http://www.wwe.com/nil/appearancesNEW/25021455

tom has church and can't ;_;

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07/14/11 7:59:00 AM
#65:


live from chicago illions its the ertyu show

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Tom Bombadil
07/14/11 8:13:00 AM
#66:


is anybody going to the ppv btw

I am trying to talk myself outta shelling out for tickets but I really really wanna

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dragon22391
07/14/11 8:15:00 AM
#67:


i was going to go with dante

and then he flaked because of some stupid 'class' bah

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muddersmilk
07/14/11 8:17:00 AM
#68:


All punk has to do is come out and announce he's taking the title back to his apartment with him, and that it'll stay in chicago with him!

That would be hilarious. I can just imagine Vince hiring a PI to let him know the minute the title leaves the city.

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07/14/11 8:33:00 AM
#69:


I can totally picture Dolph Ziggler('s brother) doing the shtick of wearing a fedora and flipping a coin in the corner of a alleyway

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Strife2
07/14/11 8:37:00 AM
#70:


The only scenarios at play on SD

Orton retains and faces Henry/Sheamus (BLARGH)
Christian wins and faces Orton (DOUBLE BLARGH)
Orton wins and Heel MITB winner takes it
Christian wins it and face MITB winner takes it (building them up immediately)
Christian wins it and random wrestler jumps up in the card out of necessity (like Ziggler did when he faced Edge)

Either way, SD has Orton and Kane at the top of the face crop, and that backloaded midcard. Someone has to get pushed to even it out.

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Majin Lou
07/14/11 9:11:00 AM
#71:


*wants ice cream*

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Bidoofaphilia
07/14/11 9:58:00 AM
#72:


I think we can just sum up SD's main event situation by restating that turning Christian was a big mistake.
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PrivateBiscuit1
07/14/11 10:04:00 AM
#73:


Can we just say that the Rock and Cena feud is just completely vapid and uninteresting?

Also, Sheamus would make a great face. You see how often he makes us laugh and the promos he does can easily be tailored for a face.

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voltch
07/14/11 10:20:00 AM
#74:


I read the impact spoilers, the feud I really wanted might actually come true.

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FFDragon
07/14/11 11:28:00 AM
#75:


Sports Illustrated supports the Ryder Revolution.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/more/07/12/twitter100/index.html

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JaKyL25
07/14/11 11:42:00 AM
#76:


I found this exchange from earlier in the week kinda humorous:

HulkHogan4Real Hulk Hogan
Excited about the IMPACT TAPINGS today,the pay preview was crazy hot,just hope everyone survived physically,Daniels is the man. HH

facdaniels Christopher Daniels
Wow. I must say I am honestly stunned and pleasantly surprised by that last tweet. Thank you, @HulkHogan4real , for real!

It amuses me that Daniels is legitimately surprised that Hogan would praise him.

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bryans7
07/14/11 11:48:00 AM
#77:


IAmJericho Chris Jericho
Miz RT @natashabrooks22 @IAmJericho who's your bigggest inspiration Chris?

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ScareChan
07/14/11 11:58:00 AM
#78:


Miz vs Jericho Tweet off 2 aww yeah


Sheamus as a face works really well because it makes everything fresh. But if they keep Orton as the top lone face progressionally Henry should be going up against Orton next since he's the hottest heel they have. Sheamus can fight Christian then fight Orton after that. By then Cody should be ready to do a good feud with Orton. He should be ready now but other guys are taking some priority here. Cody and Ted taking on Orton now that Cody is actually knoweldgeable and has some drive is going to be a good feud. He just uses Ted like Miz used Riley.

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07/14/11 12:45:00 PM
#79:


I enjoyed this

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/218-pro-wrestling-wwe/59729245

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Haguile
07/14/11 1:16:00 PM
#80:


http://marvel.com/news/story/16282/fightin_fanboys_zack_ryder

Ryder is doing The Miz's strategy of "if you don't get a push GET PUBLICITY LIKE HELL UNTIL YOU DO!"

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PepsiPlunge
07/14/11 1:22:00 PM
#81:


I have even more love for Zack after reading that.

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PepsiPlunge
07/14/11 1:26:00 PM
#82:


Oh and Wang, Steen announced his EVOLVE debut. **** yeah!

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Haguile
07/14/11 2:20:00 PM
#83:


http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwesuperstars

Superstars is up! Time to see Ryder vs Santino.
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Haguile
07/14/11 2:27:00 PM
#84:


...Holy s*** @ that "let's go ryder" chant. That was really loud!
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JaKyL25
07/14/11 2:45:00 PM
#85:


http://www.youtube.com/longislandicedz

Episode 22 is up, you heard it here first!

He said he was uploading it so I just kept refreshing his page and hit it at 0 views. Should I screencap that? <_<

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Haguile
07/14/11 2:50:00 PM
#86:


Yes you should!

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JaKyL25
07/14/11 2:55:00 PM
#87:


external image

WWWYKI

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voltch
07/14/11 2:55:00 PM
#88:


b8toleratesimpact later tonight!

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JaKyL25
07/14/11 3:00:00 PM
#89:


I didn't catch Ziggler/Venkman this week, where were they hanging out at?

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Wanglicious
07/14/11 3:52:00 PM
#90:


came home. saw email.

Finley's at it. Steen's at it. I'm at it front row stage. aw yeah.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/14/11 3:54:00 PM
#91:


Man, I just rewatched the RAW main event promo and Cena just made it unbearable. He could've sounded like he had a good point, but instead he sounded like an insufferable doofus who couldn't get to his point. When he did, he was just such a jackass for trying to say Punk was doing so much wrong when... he really wasn't at all. It also hurts when you can tell he still barely takes it (like everything else) very seriously until... Punk started talking about sports teams?

This is what set Cena off and shook him? That he said some of his sports teams think they're the underdog still? And that he said that Cena isn't the underdog anymore and is instead a dynasty? How is this even offensive and why is Cena upset over this? It doesn't make any sense for Cena to be suddenly taking it seriously since he's not the underdog.

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XxSoulxX
07/14/11 3:57:00 PM
#92:


Calling a Red Sox fan a Yankee is a pretty huge diss. I know if someone called me a Maple Leaf or a Red Wing I'd be pissed too.

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Wanglicious
07/14/11 4:15:00 PM
#93:


except he's always treated things like that's the case. the sports team references totally worked here because it's an apt analogy, at least with the Red Sox. they were the underdogs and then they became champ. and they continued to pretend like they're anything else but really, by all means they're Yankees-lite right now and it's a pretty personal rivalry to some within the areas (and one of sports most defined rivalries too).

but Cena's always talking a big game about how he's still here, how he never gives up, keeps coming back, etc like it's something else, AND he was doing it earlier this night. ....but Punk tore through all that in 2 minutes and told it to Cena straight. it's actually the first time someone flat out acknowledges Cena not just as 'the top dog!' but calls him out on the reality of what he is and what he says or pretends is the case. it's offensive because it's true, but he doesn't want to admit it or pretends that's the case. it's a pretty perfect spot for something to happen to the Cena character really - the realization that he's been on the top for years, that it hasn't just been a title after a title of hardship; Cena's a guy who wouldn't consider himself to be the Superman everyone's claimed he is (and the announcers have even said as such recently!), but the record says he absolutely is. it's stopped being about beating the best. he's at the top of that mountain already. people go after him for it - that's the Nexus story, but the lesson wasn't learned then. he had to be the underdog in that situation with the group vs. 1 situation. it's probably the only other time someone went after Cena for a similar reason. when Sheamus went after HHH, who went after Cena? who's ever gone after Cena?

but this is just 1 on 1. Punk's not playing something unfair. Punk's got the passion, the proven hard work and dedication, but doesn't have what Cena has - never has had what Cena has. and it's no matter of jealousy as much as it's acknowledgement and standing up. Cena's been Superman all along, but he's almost always put into situations where he has to BE Superman to get out as well and starts as the 'underdog' only to save the day. even the whole deal with the Rock has him being 'the underdog' there.

that situation doesn't exist here. and Punk forced him to realize that said situation doesn't exist anymore, and hasn't for years. Cena can no longer, in good faith, prance around like he's the cheerful lead that wants a challenge... because he's gone beyond that. few challenges to him remain.


to one-line this tl;dr bit: what does Superman do when he realizes that not only can he do it all, but he already has?


he punches the guy who made him realize this in the mouth.

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PepsiPlunge
07/14/11 4:37:00 PM
#94:


Wanglicious posted...
came home. saw email.

Finley's at it. Steen's at it. I'm at it front row stage. aw yeah.


HELL YEAH!

Who will Steen kill the night of his debut?!

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Coffee Ninja
07/14/11 4:39:00 PM
#95:


From what I hear, Cena isn't even a Red Sox fan, hes a Tampa Rays fan

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Wanglicious
07/14/11 4:44:00 PM
#96:


hm... some Japanese guy, AR Fox, or Gargano are probables in that situation, depending what they wanna do.

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JaKyL25
07/14/11 4:48:00 PM
#97:


When he did, he was just such a jackass for trying to say Punk was doing so much wrong when... he really wasn't at all.

Punk's entire goal this whole time has been to intentionally cripple the WWE Championship in his quest to go out with a bang.

Just like with the whole SES angle, just because Punk's message is righteous doesn't mean that Punk himself is in the right. While the content of his words may ring true, the motive behind the shouting is entirely self-interested and egotistical.

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Wanglicious
07/14/11 4:52:00 PM
#98:


i dunno man. wanting to change the belt and bring ice cream to people isn't egotistical!

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Viktor Vaughn
07/14/11 4:54:00 PM
#99:


wanting your face on that belt and ice cream is, though

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neonreaper
07/14/11 5:05:00 PM
#100:


XxSoulxX posted...
Calling a Red Sox fan a Yankee is a pretty huge diss. I know if someone called me a Maple Leaf or a Red Wing I'd be pissed too.

The problem I have is that Cena isn't a Sox fan. It came up in 2008 when he was flying around with a TB jersey. I'm guessing most people don't know that, but for anyone that does, it ruins that part of the segment.

Also, Cena hitting Punk as a Red Sox fan (which he isn't) would mean he is mad that Punk is right. That would be a neat little nuance.

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