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Mr Lasastryke 07/16/11 6:14:00 AM #51:	Are you really going to argue that nobody who's lived in the past century could possibly be as musically talented as them? I'm not sure why you're bringing the past century into this as Richard Strauss lived in the past century. As for today, yes, I'm not seeing anyone of the stature of Bach who's composing music right now. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:99484] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Are you really going to argue that nobody who's lived in the past century could possibly be as musically talented as them?I'm not sure why you're bringing the past century into this as Richard Strauss lived in the past century. As for today, yes, I'm not seeing anyone of the stature of Bach who's composing music right now. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 07/16/11 6:18:00 AM #52:	TomNook7 \| Posted 7/16/2011 6:09:53 AM \| message detail \| quote The 90's was a good decade for mainstream music, despite the boy bands. We had everything from Nirvana to Nas. I'd say once Nickelback rolled around is when mainstream music started to decline. And 80's pop was awesome, how could you hate New Wave. Nickelback is so freakin' 90's, what are you even talking about. And I have no friggin' idea why Nirvana is so heavily romanticized but I really don't want to get into that. I don't hate new wave. A lot of new wave is cool. A lot of it f*in' sucked. You probably just don't remember because it's not the 80's anymore. Selective memory is a powerful thing. I'm making a mental note of the conversations we're having about modern music, because I want to re-evaluate what they look like thirty years from now. We'll probably only remember the good stuff and forget all the s* - and some of the stuff we think is s* now will reveal itself as revolutionary. But we'll all be old and crotchety and think it sucks anyway. Also Lady Gaga is honestly pretty good, while not particularly groundbreaking. I'd rather listen to it than a lot of stuff the past decades have churned out. We'll remember her in 50 years. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:99485] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> TomNook7 \| Posted 7/16/2011 6:09:53 AM \| message detail \| quoteThe 90's was a good decade for mainstream music, despite the boy bands. We had everything from Nirvana to Nas. I'd say once Nickelback rolled around is when mainstream music started to decline. And 80's pop was awesome, how could you hate New Wave.Nickelback is so freakin' 90's, what are you even talking about. And I have no friggin' idea why Nirvana is so heavily romanticized but I really don't want to get into that.I don't hate new wave. A lot of new wave is cool. A lot of it fin' sucked. You probably just don't remember because it's not the 80's anymore.Selective memory is a powerful thing. I'm making a mental note of the conversations we're having about modern music, because I want to re-evaluate what they look like thirty years from now. We'll probably only remember the good stuff and forget all the s - and some of the stuff we think is s* now will reveal itself as revolutionary. But we'll all be old and crotchety and think it sucks anyway.Also Lady Gaga is honestly pretty good, while not particularly groundbreaking. I'd rather listen to it than a lot of stuff the past decades have churned out. We'll remember her in 50 years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/16/11 6:19:00 AM #53:	All of the great music you're talking about still exists and is still created. Are you really going to argue that there's still Bachs, Mozarts, Beethovens, and yes, Richard Strausses composing music today? -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:99486] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> All of the great music you're talking about still exists and is still created.Are you really going to argue that there's still Bachs, Mozarts, Beethovens, and yes, Richard Strausses composing music today? -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giggsalot 07/16/11 6:21:00 AM #54:	I'm not sure why you're bringing the past century into this as Richard Strauss lived in the past century. As for today, yes, I'm not seeing anyone of the stature of Bach who's composing music right now. Talking in terms of "stature" kills the whole argument, though, Lasa - stature comes with time, and active composers haven't had that. For all we know people will revere Richard D. James' or Mark Hollis' bodies of work in centuries to come. It's also a weird argument on the basis that - and I accept that this isn't true for everyone - for the most part, people like the classical music that they are told is good. People will say "oh I love Mozart" without having listened to his peers to see if they prefer any of their works. Bach's "stature," I imagine, will continue to rise almost exponentially over time, as more and more of his contemporaries are forgotten and people assume his was the only music in that period which was worth listening to. No-one actively performing in this information age can even hope to compete with the near-mythical status age brings. -- And if you don't know, now you know. <cite>Giggsalot posted [p:99487] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> I'm not sure why you're bringing the past century into this as Richard Strauss lived in the past century. As for today, yes, I'm not seeing anyone of the stature of Bach who's composing music right now.Talking in terms of "stature" kills the whole argument, though, Lasa - stature comes with time, and active composers haven't had that. For all we know people will revere Richard D. James' or Mark Hollis' bodies of work in centuries to come.It's also a weird argument on the basis that - and I accept that this isn't true for everyone - for the most part, people like the classical music that they are told is good. People will say "oh I love Mozart" without having listened to his peers to see if they prefer any of their works. Bach's "stature," I imagine, will continue to rise almost exponentially over time, as more and more of his contemporaries are forgotten and people assume his was the only music in that period which was worth listening to. No-one actively performing in this information age can even hope to compete with the near-mythical status age brings. -- And if you don't know, now you know. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/16/11 6:22:00 AM #55:	Also Lady Gaga is honestly pretty good, while not particularly groundbreaking. I'd rather listen to it than a lot of stuff the past decades have churned out. We'll remember her in 50 years. Disregarding that I don't like Lady Gaga and think most (but not all!) of her stuff is bad, I don't see why people are so sure that we'll remember her in 50 years. There's no telling who we'll remember in 50 years. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:99488] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Also Lady Gaga is honestly pretty good, while not particularly groundbreaking. I'd rather listen to it than a lot of stuff the past decades have churned out. We'll remember her in 50 years.Disregarding that I don't like Lady Gaga and think most (but not all!) of her stuff is bad, I don't see why people are so sure that we'll remember her in 50 years. There's no telling who we'll remember in 50 years. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:22:00 AM #56:	From: Giggsalot \| #054 It's also a weird argument on the basis that - and I accept that this isn't true for everyone - for the most part, people like the classical music that they are told is good. People will say "oh I love Mozart" without having listened to his peers to see if they prefer any of their works. Bach's "stature," I imagine, will continue to rise almost exponentially over time, as more and more of his contemporaries are forgotten and people assume his was the only music in that period which was worth listening to. No-one actively performing in this information age can even hope to compete with the near-mythical status age brings. I was looking for an effective way to more or less say this. But it's 6:30 AM and I've been up way too long so I'll just quote you. -- http://i54.tinypic.com/2mh625c.gif Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99489] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: Giggsalot \| #054It's also a weird argument on the basis that - and I accept that this isn't true for everyone - for the most part, people like the classical music that they are told is good. People will say "oh I love Mozart" without having listened to his peers to see if they prefer any of their works. Bach's "stature," I imagine, will continue to rise almost exponentially over time, as more and more of his contemporaries are forgotten and people assume his was the only music in that period which was worth listening to. No-one actively performing in this information age can even hope to compete with the near-mythical status age brings.I was looking for an effective way to more or less say this.But it's 6:30 AM and I've been up way too long so I'll just quote you. -- http://i54.tinypic.com/2mh625c.gifMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:23:00 AM #57:	From: Mr Lasastryke \| #055 Disregarding that I don't like Lady Gaga and think most (but not all!) of her stuff is bad, I don't see why people are so sure that we'll remember her in 50 years. because she's had a bigger impact on pop culture than any human being of the past 20 years, but that's a whole other discussion altogether. -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/NewYorkgifav.gif Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99490] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: Mr Lasastryke \| #055Disregarding that I don't like Lady Gaga and think most (but not all!) of her stuff is bad, I don't see why people are so sure that we'll remember her in 50 years.because she's had a bigger impact on pop culture than any human being of the past 20 years, but that's a whole other discussion altogether. -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/NewYorkgifav.gifMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blulum 07/16/11 6:24:00 AM #58:	There's definitely worse than gaga but she'll still be forgotten as all fads are, she doesn't have a good voice and there's nothing particularly great about her music. If anything as someone who is mostly popular for fashion she's a perfect example of what is wrong with the music industry today. And I think a lot of composers are better than Bach but then I've never put things on a pedestal just for being old so I don't expect a whole lot of people to agree with me there...how many of you frequently listen to Bach though? I think it's kind of ridiculous how ancient composers are culturally unassailable even though few people listen to them. -- I haven't played The Wind Waker-LinkMarioSamus <cite>Blulum posted [p:99491] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> There's definitely worse than gaga but she'll still be forgotten as all fads are, she doesn't have a good voice and there's nothing particularly great about her music. If anything as someone who is mostly popular for fashion she's a perfect example of what is wrong with the music industry today.And I think a lot of composers are better than Bach but then I've never put things on a pedestal just for being old so I don't expect a whole lot of people to agree with me there...how many of you frequently listen to Bach though? I think it's kind of ridiculous how ancient composers are culturally unassailable even though few people listen to them. -- I haven't played The Wind Waker-LinkMarioSamus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:24:00 AM #59:	From: Blulum \| #058 There's definitely worse than gaga but she'll still be forgotten as all fads are, -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/lovegamejpgut.jpg Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99492] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: Blulum \| #058There's definitely worse than gaga but she'll still be forgotten as all fads are, -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/lovegamejpgut.jpgMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom Bombadil 07/16/11 6:25:00 AM #60:	I don't think the problem with modern classical music is "popification." In fact, I think it's just the opposite- the classical music field has gotten so snooty and progressive that music is no longer accessible to much of anybody outside the field of modern classical music. It's abstruse and elitist and inaccessible- much more so than the classical music of centuries past that is itself difficult for a modern listener to fully appreciate. It's this huge ivory tower, and at the top is a bunch of what sounds to 99% of the population like noise. Who's going to bother? Is it even worth it? I can't quite dismiss the modern crop of music wholesale, pop or classical, but it does make me sad how classical music has fallen off. -- ~Tommeri Uranius Bombaldi the Fourth, esq. (aka not Krakenprophet) <cite>Tom Bombadil posted [p:99493] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> I don't think the problem with modern classical music is "popification." In fact, I think it's just the opposite- the classical music field has gotten so snooty and progressive that music is no longer accessible to much of anybody outside the field of modern classical music. It's abstruse and elitist and inaccessible- much more so than the classical music of centuries past that is itself difficult for a modern listener to fully appreciate. It's this huge ivory tower, and at the top is a bunch of what sounds to 99% of the population like noise. Who's going to bother? Is it even worth it?I can't quite dismiss the modern crop of music wholesale, pop or classical, but it does make me sad how classical music has fallen off. -- ~Tommeri Uranius Bombaldi the Fourth, esq.(aka not Krakenprophet) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/16/11 6:26:00 AM #61:	Talking in terms of "stature" kills the whole argument, though, Lasa - stature comes with time, and active composers haven't had that. For all we know people will revere Richard D. James' or Mark Hollis' bodies of work in centuries to come. That stature comes with time is a good point. I doubt the music of Richard D. James is going to be taught at music academies in the future, though. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:99494] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Talking in terms of "stature" kills the whole argument, though, Lasa - stature comes with time, and active composers haven't had that. For all we know people will revere Richard D. James' or Mark Hollis' bodies of work in centuries to come.That stature comes with time is a good point. I doubt the music of Richard D. James is going to be taught at music academies in the future, though. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 07/16/11 6:28:00 AM #62:	Mr Lasastryke \| Posted 7/16/2011 6:12:25 AM \| message detail \| quote I listed examples of what I presume Saro thinks are the great composers in history. Para says "people like that are still creating music today." I reply: "who, then?" To be perfectly fair, I can't just conjure up names of people to compare to Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart, but then I realized that this is an entirely loaded question because it's completely stupid to even try to compare people to Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart. They were old masters who lived centuries ago who revolutionized music and came to be known as paragons of entire periods of music that stretched for 100-150 years. Of course nobody today can compare to that, because they live today! It's completely unfair to expect anyone right now to be a legend worthy of being mentioned in the same breath. So I could mention any of the hundreds or thousands of people who are making great music, but it'd be a pointless exercise because no, of course they're not Beethoven, he's been friggin' dead for centuries. So to answer the question, who's still creating good music today? Tons of people. Stop listening to the radio and actually go looking for it. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:99495] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Mr Lasastryke \| Posted 7/16/2011 6:12:25 AM \| message detail \| quoteI listed examples of what I presume Saro thinks are the great composers in history. Para says "people like that are still creating music today." I reply: "who, then?"To be perfectly fair, I can't just conjure up names of people to compare to Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart, but then I realized that this is an entirely loaded question because it's completely stupid to even try to compare people to Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart. They were old masters who lived centuries ago who revolutionized music and came to be known as paragons of entire periods of music that stretched for 100-150 years. Of course nobody today can compare to that, because they live today! It's completely unfair to expect anyone right now to be a legend worthy of being mentioned in the same breath. So I could mention any of the hundreds or thousands of people who are making great music, but it'd be a pointless exercise because no, of course they're not Beethoven, he's been friggin' dead for centuries.So to answer the question, who's still creating good music today? Tons of people. Stop listening to the radio and actually go looking for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 07/16/11 6:29:00 AM #63:	Giggsalot \| Posted 7/16/2011 6:21:29 AM \| message detail \| quote Talking in terms of "stature" kills the whole argument, though, Lasa - stature comes with time, and active composers haven't had that. For all we know people will revere Richard D. James' or Mark Hollis' bodies of work in centuries to come. It's also a weird argument on the basis that - and I accept that this isn't true for everyone - for the most part, people like the classical music that they are told is good. People will say "oh I love Mozart" without having listened to his peers to see if they prefer any of their works. Bach's "stature," I imagine, will continue to rise almost exponentially over time, as more and more of his contemporaries are forgotten and people assume his was the only music in that period which was worth listening to. No-one actively performing in this information age can even hope to compete with the near-mythical status age brings. Oh goodness, thank you for saying so elegantly what I can't possibly hope to come up with at 6 in the morning. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:99496] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Giggsalot \| Posted 7/16/2011 6:21:29 AM \| message detail \| quoteTalking in terms of "stature" kills the whole argument, though, Lasa - stature comes with time, and active composers haven't had that. For all we know people will revere Richard D. James' or Mark Hollis' bodies of work in centuries to come.It's also a weird argument on the basis that - and I accept that this isn't true for everyone - for the most part, people like the classical music that they are told is good. People will say "oh I love Mozart" without having listened to his peers to see if they prefer any of their works. Bach's "stature," I imagine, will continue to rise almost exponentially over time, as more and more of his contemporaries are forgotten and people assume his was the only music in that period which was worth listening to. No-one actively performing in this information age can even hope to compete with the near-mythical status age brings.Oh goodness, thank you for saying so elegantly what I can't possibly hope to come up with at 6 in the morning. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:30:00 AM #64:	From: Paratroopa1 \| #063 Oh goodness, thank you for saying so elegantly what I can't possibly hope to come up with at 6 in the morning. bahaha -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/NewYorkgifav.gif Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99497] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: Paratroopa1 \| #063Oh goodness, thank you for saying so elegantly what I can't possibly hope to come up with at 6 in the morning.bahaha -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/NewYorkgifav.gifMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook7 07/16/11 6:30:00 AM #65:	mer in denial -- Genesis does what Nintendon't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nsBoqJ6s8 <cite>TomNook7 posted [p:99498] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> mer in denial -- Genesis does what Nintendon'thttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nsBoqJ6s8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Cobain 07/16/11 6:31:00 AM #66:	RIP music it was a good run guess now i'll have to listen to CD's of bird calls or something -- i consider myself a very positive influence on the youths of my community http://img.imgcake.com/felixpngza.png <cite>Sir Cobain posted [p:99499] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> RIP music it was a good runguess now i'll have to listen to CD's of bird calls or something -- i consider myself a very positive influence on the youths of my communityhttp://img.imgcake.com/felixpngza.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blulum 07/16/11 6:32:00 AM #67:	There will probably never be mythical composers like Bach or Beethoven again because making music is so much more accessible now and there is so much more variety out there. These are people synonymous with the time periods they lived in, the beatles were probably the last music act that will ever be able to claim that kind of status. -- I haven't played The Wind Waker-LinkMarioSamus <cite>Blulum posted [p:99500] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> There will probably never be mythical composers like Bach or Beethoven again because making music is so much more accessible now and there is so much more variety out there. These are people synonymous with the time periods they lived in, the beatles were probably the last music act that will ever be able to claim that kind of status. -- I haven't played The Wind Waker-LinkMarioSamus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/16/11 6:34:00 AM #68:	So to answer the question, who's still creating good music today? Tons of people. Stop listening to the radio and actually go looking for it. For clarity's sake, the question wasn't "who's still creating good music" - I'm a huge fan of contemporary music. The question was "who's still making music in the same league (for lack of a better word) as Bach, etc." But yeah, that question doesn't really work - Bach has been dead for centuries, we don't know, yadda yadda. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:99501] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> So to answer the question, who's still creating good music today? Tons of people. Stop listening to the radio and actually go looking for it.For clarity's sake, the question wasn't "who's still creating good music" - I'm a huge fan of contemporary music. The question was "who's still making music in the same league (for lack of a better word) as Bach, etc." But yeah, that question doesn't really work - Bach has been dead for centuries, we don't know, yadda yadda. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 07/16/11 6:34:00 AM #69:	From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer \| #057 because she's had a bigger impact on pop culture than any human being of the past 20 years, but that's a whole other discussion altogether. Britney Spears has her so beat it's not even close. Hell, even Harry Potter has had a bigger impact on Pop Culture than Lady Gaga and he's fictional. Gaga makes good music, but she is not shaping pop culture Mer, however much you want her to be. -- I mean really. <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:99502] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer \| #057because she's had a bigger impact on pop culture than any human being of the past 20 years, but that's a whole other discussion altogether.Britney Spears has her so beat it's not even close.Hell, even Harry Potter has had a bigger impact on Pop Culture than Lady Gaga and he's fictional.Gaga makes good music, but she is not shaping pop culture Mer, however much you want her to be. -- I mean really. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gr8CyberMonkey 07/16/11 6:34:00 AM #70:	Listen to some old American Top 40 broadcasts. They play them occasionally on SiriusXM's 70's station. There was a ton of crappy music in the 70's. And this is coming from someone who likes music from that decade more than any other recent ones. -- Please don't go. The Drones need you. Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded. <cite>Gr8CyberMonkey posted [p:99503] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Listen to some old American Top 40 broadcasts. They play them occasionally on SiriusXM's 70's station. There was a ton of crappy music in the 70's. And this is coming from someone who likes music from that decade more than any other recent ones. -- Please don't go. The Drones need you.Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 07/16/11 6:37:00 AM #71:	Blulum \| Posted 7/16/2011 6:32:26 AM \| message detail \| quote There will probably never be mythical composers like Bach or Beethoven again because making music is so much more accessible now and there is so much more variety out there. These are people synonymous with the time periods they lived in, the beatles were probably the last music act that will ever be able to claim that kind of status. I agree with this, but I also think that we can't really know how the future will look back on the music of today - it's like I said, perspective is a powerful thing. It's just about impossible to gain perspective on what the future will look like. I also don't think this is a bad thing. Just because people aren't elevated to mythical status in music anymore doesn't actually degrade the quality of music. People just get confused because they equate the best music only with people who are legendary. You have to listen to a lot more music than that before you gain any real perspective. But it's all subjective anyway, so it's completely silly. If you care about music at all, then surely you've heard something you like. So like what you like. I guarantee there's more where that came from if you're willing to have an open mind and not cling to only the one or two things you've ever heard. Yeah there's a lot of crap, but some people like that crap. And I'm all for that, because I'm trying to become a composer and it's a lot easier to impress people who aren't well-read on music, take it from me. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:99504] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Blulum \| Posted 7/16/2011 6:32:26 AM \| message detail \| quoteThere will probably never be mythical composers like Bach or Beethoven again because making music is so much more accessible now and there is so much more variety out there. These are people synonymous with the time periods they lived in, the beatles were probably the last music act that will ever be able to claim that kind of status.I agree with this, but I also think that we can't really know how the future will look back on the music of today - it's like I said, perspective is a powerful thing. It's just about impossible to gain perspective on what the future will look like.I also don't think this is a bad thing. Just because people aren't elevated to mythical status in music anymore doesn't actually degrade the quality of music. People just get confused because they equate the best music only with people who are legendary. You have to listen to a lot more music than that before you gain any real perspective.But it's all subjective anyway, so it's completely silly. If you care about music at all, then surely you've heard something you like. So like what you like. I guarantee there's more where that came from if you're willing to have an open mind and not cling to only the one or two things you've ever heard. Yeah there's a lot of crap, but some people like that crap. And I'm all for that, because I'm trying to become a composer and it's a lot easier to impress people who aren't well-read on music, take it from me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:38:00 AM #72:	From: TomNook7 \| #065 mer in denial I'm not in denial of anything, I'm just correct -- http://junketdrawer.com/survivor21/s21e02_c1.gif Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99505] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: TomNook7 \| #065mer in denialI'm not in denial of anything, I'm just correct -- http://junketdrawer.com/survivor21/s21e02_c1.gifMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 07/16/11 6:38:00 AM #73:	From: Giggsalot \| #054 For all we know people will revere Richard D. James' or Mark Hollis' bodies of work in centuries to come. I don't want to live in a world where Mark Hollis is not remembered tbqh -- http://img.imgcake.com/VincentLauw/ILOVEGOLFgifva.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:99506] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: Giggsalot \| #054For all we know people will revere Richard D. James' or Mark Hollis' bodies of work in centuries to come.I don't want to live in a world where Mark Hollis is not remembered tbqh -- http://img.imgcake.com/VincentLauw/ILOVEGOLFgifva.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 07/16/11 6:38:00 AM #74:	*Blulum posted...* There will probably never be mythical composers like Bach or Beethoven again because making music is so much more accessible now and there is so much more variety out there. These are people synonymous with the time periods they lived in, the beatles were probably the last music act that will ever be able to claim that kind of status. Which makes sense, because we're talking about select people over the centuries. The next ultra-legendary group is probably just around the corner. -- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:99507] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Blulum posted...There will probably never be mythical composers like Bach or Beethoven again because making music is so much more accessible now and there is so much more variety out there. These are people synonymous with the time periods they lived in, the beatles were probably the last music act that will ever be able to claim that kind of status.Which makes sense, because we're talking about select people over the centuries. The next ultra-legendary group is probably just around the corner. -- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blulum 07/16/11 6:39:00 AM #75:	I also don't think this is a bad thing. Just because people aren't elevated to mythical status in music anymore doesn't actually degrade the quality of music. People just get confused because they equate the best music only with people who are legendary. You have to listen to a lot more music than that before you gain any real perspective. Of course, this is why I asked who actually listens to Bach or Beethoven on a regular basis. These composers are treated as godlike by people that would almost never actually listen to them, it's disgusting. Music needs -less- of that kind of illogical mysticism, not more. -- I haven't played The Wind Waker-LinkMarioSamus <cite>Blulum posted [p:99508] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> I also don't think this is a bad thing. Just because people aren't elevated to mythical status in music anymore doesn't actually degrade the quality of music. People just get confused because they equate the best music only with people who are legendary. You have to listen to a lot more music than that before you gain any real perspective.Of course, this is why I asked who actually listens to Bach or Beethoven on a regular basis. These composers are treated as godlike by people that would almost never actually listen to them, it's disgusting. Music needs -less- of that kind of illogical mysticism, not more. -- I haven't played The Wind Waker-LinkMarioSamus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 07/16/11 6:39:00 AM #76:	Also Giggs again showing how he is the best user on this board and Saro again showing his awful side -- http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/nat_har/GIFS/SNL%20and%20The%20Lonely%20Island%20GIFS/boombox2.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:99509] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Also Giggs again showing how he is the best user on this board and Saro again showing his awful side -- http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/nat_har/GIFS/SNL%20and%20The%20Lonely%20Island%20GIFS/boombox2.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:40:00 AM #77:	From: nintendogirl1 \| #069 From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer \| #057 because she's had a bigger impact on pop culture than any human being of the past 20 years, but that's a whole other discussion altogether. Britney Spears has her so beat it's not even close. Hell, even Harry Potter has had a bigger impact on Pop Culture than Lady Gaga and he's fictional. Gaga makes good music, but she is not shaping pop culture Mer, however much you want her to be. lol watch pop videos from 2006, and then some from 2011 tell me you can't see the stark contrast between the pre-Gaga and post-Gaga climates Gaga made every other pop artist step their game way the ** up Britney's never been much special, I'll never know why people ever hailed her as the "new Madonna", because she's nothing close and as for Harry Potter, you live in the UK. lol -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/gagashootsbeibergifeh.gif Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99510] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: nintendogirl1 \| #069From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer \| #057because she's had a bigger impact on pop culture than any human being of the past 20 years, but that's a whole other discussion altogether.Britney Spears has her so beat it's not even close.Hell, even Harry Potter has had a bigger impact on Pop Culture than Lady Gaga and he's fictional.Gaga makes good music, but she is not shaping pop culture Mer, however much you want her to be.lolwatch pop videos from 2006, and then some from 2011tell me you can't see the stark contrast between the pre-Gaga and post-Gaga climatesGaga made every other pop artist step their game way the ** upBritney's never been much special, I'll never know why people ever hailed her as the "new Madonna", because she's nothing closeand as for Harry Potter, you live in the UK. lol -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/gagashootsbeibergifeh.gifMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 07/16/11 6:40:00 AM #78:	*Blulum posted...* I also don't think this is a bad thing. Just because people aren't elevated to mythical status in music anymore doesn't actually degrade the quality of music. People just get confused because they equate the best music only with people who are legendary. You have to listen to a lot more music than that before you gain any real perspective. Of course, this is why I asked who actually listens to Bach or Beethoven on a regular basis. These composers are treated as godlike by people that would almost never actually listen to them, it's disgusting. Raises hand And I'd wager I have a much broader taste than most other people in this topic, since my library goes from noise music, to ambient, to forgotten 50's blues, to jazz, to the good ol' rock standbys. This doomsaying is ridiculous and you should feel bad for it. -- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:99511] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Blulum posted...I also don't think this is a bad thing. Just because people aren't elevated to mythical status in music anymore doesn't actually degrade the quality of music. People just get confused because they equate the best music only with people who are legendary. You have to listen to a lot more music than that before you gain any real perspective.Of course, this is why I asked who actually listens to Bach or Beethoven on a regular basis. These composers are treated as godlike by people that would almost never actually listen to them, it's disgusting.Raises handAnd I'd wager I have a much broader taste than most other people in this topic, since my library goes from noise music, to ambient, to forgotten 50's blues, to jazz, to the good ol' rock standbys. This doomsaying is ridiculous and you should feel bad for it. -- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 07/16/11 6:40:00 AM #79:	As a side note, you guys know what was popular centuries ago? Folk songs and church music. All of the orchestrated music from the baroque and classical periods that we know of now were created by the high class, for the high class. That stuff didn't really enter the realm of "popular" music until the late 1800's at earliest. The common people didn't have that stuff. They had folk songs and church music. Totally a s* time to live if you liked music but didn't have money. We live in enlightened times, honestly. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:99512] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> As a side note, you guys know what was popular centuries ago? Folk songs and church music. All of the orchestrated music from the baroque and classical periods that we know of now were created by the high class, for the high class. That stuff didn't really enter the realm of "popular" music until the late 1800's at earliest. The common people didn't have that stuff. They had folk songs and church music. Totally a s* time to live if you liked music but didn't have money. We live in enlightened times, honestly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 07/16/11 6:42:00 AM #80:	and anyone that still believes by now that Lady Gaga will be forgotten is delusional. Unless you think Beyonce, Madonna, etc will all be forgotten too. Whether you like their music or not, they are insanely popular at the moment and have been for many years. Gaga is following that same road. -- http://img.imgcake.com/mosdefswaggifes.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:99513] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> and anyone that still believes by now that Lady Gaga will be forgotten is delusional. Unless you think Beyonce, Madonna, etc will all be forgotten too. Whether you like their music or not, they are insanely popular at the moment and have been for many years. Gaga is following that same road. -- http://img.imgcake.com/mosdefswaggifes.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:43:00 AM #81:	You know, I always remember 3 years ago when people would make fun of me for thinking Lady Gaga was great and try to tell me she'd be a one hit wonder and she'd become irrelevant within a couple years you'd think these basic ass hoes would learn to recognize a legend =/ so sad. -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/shediedgifne.gif Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99514] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> You know, I always remember 3 years ago when people would make fun of me for thinking Lady Gaga was great and try to tell me she'd be a one hit wonder and she'd become irrelevant within a couple yearsyou'd think these basic ass hoes would learn to recognize a legend =/so sad. -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/shediedgifne.gifMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 07/16/11 6:45:00 AM #82:	From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer \| #081 You know, I always remember 3 years ago when people would make fun of me for thinking Lady Gaga was great and try to tell me she'd be a one hit wonder and she'd become irrelevant within a couple years Now to be honest, no one could ACTUALLY know Gaga would blow up this much because of the one/two hits she had in 2008. She could've easily been forgotten by now. But she isn't, so I don't know why people are still advocating she will be in the near future. -- http://img.imgcake.com/thegoodpartgifja.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:99515] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer \| #081You know, I always remember 3 years ago when people would make fun of me for thinking Lady Gaga was great and try to tell me she'd be a one hit wonder and she'd become irrelevant within a couple yearsNow to be honest, no one could ACTUALLY know Gaga would blow up this much because of the one/two hits she had in 2008. She could've easily been forgotten by now. But she isn't, so I don't know why people are still advocating she will be in the near future. -- http://img.imgcake.com/thegoodpartgifja.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blulum 07/16/11 6:46:00 AM #83:	so I don't know why people are still advocating she will be in the near future. I'm an optimist. -- I haven't played The Wind Waker-LinkMarioSamus <cite>Blulum posted [p:99516] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> so I don't know why people are still advocating she will be in the near future.I'm an optimist. -- I haven't played The Wind Waker-LinkMarioSamus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:46:00 AM #84:	From: VincentLauw \| #082 Now to be honest, no one could ACTUALLY know Gaga would blow up this much because of the one/two hits she had in 2008. I knew. Because I actually paid attention to her back then. -- http://i53.tinypic.com/259wevl.gif Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99517] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: VincentLauw \| #082Now to be honest, no one could ACTUALLY know Gaga would blow up this much because of the one/two hits she had in 2008.I knew.Because I actually paid attention to her back then. -- http://i53.tinypic.com/259wevl.gifMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 07/16/11 6:48:00 AM #85:	From: Blulum \| #083 so I don't know why people are still advocating she will be in the near future. I'm an optimist. No, you're a douche. Big difference. -- http://img.imgcake.com/VincentLauw/ILOVEGOLFgifva.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:99518] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: Blulum \| #083so I don't know why people are still advocating she will be in the near future.I'm an optimist.No, you're a douche. Big difference. -- http://img.imgcake.com/VincentLauw/ILOVEGOLFgifva.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 07/16/11 6:50:00 AM #86:	and anyone that still believes by now that Lady Gaga will be forgotten is delusional. Unless you think Beyonce, Madonna, etc will all be forgotten too. Madonna and Beyoncé have been popular for way longer than Gaga, though. They're not comparable examples. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:99519] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> and anyone that still believes by now that Lady Gaga will be forgotten is delusional. Unless you think Beyonce, Madonna, etc will all be forgotten too.Madonna and Beyoncé have been popular for way longer than Gaga, though. They're not comparable examples. -- Full rap metal jacket ~ Method Man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 07/16/11 6:51:00 AM #87:	I didn't think Gaga would blow up this much, either. But I didn't not think it either. It's always really hard to say, when we're always in the present time, what will endure and what won't. I don't really know if you could've even predicted the Beatles would be as legendary as they are now back in like, 1963, at the height of Beatlemania. They weren't the only band doing what they did. They were hugely popular, but that doesn't always translate to becoming a legend in the future. Not that I think Gaga will ever be considered a legend, but I do think she'll be considered one of the notable names of pop music in the 00's-10's. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:99520] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> I didn't think Gaga would blow up this much, either. But I didn't not think it either. It's always really hard to say, when we're always in the present time, what will endure and what won't. I don't really know if you could've even predicted the Beatles would be as legendary as they are now back in like, 1963, at the height of Beatlemania. They weren't the only band doing what they did. They were hugely popular, but that doesn't always translate to becoming a legend in the future. Not that I think Gaga will ever be considered a legend, but I do think she'll be considered one of the notable names of pop music in the 00's-10's. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:51:00 AM #88:	From: Mr Lasastryke \| #086 Madonna and Beyoncé have been popular for way longer than Gaga, though. They're not comparable examples. Madonna and Beyonce couldn't have dreamed of accomplishing as much in 2.5 years as Gaga has. I don't think you grasp quite how **ing massive and successful Gaga is. -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/lovegamejpgut.jpg Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99521] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: Mr Lasastryke \| #086Madonna and Beyoncé have been popular for way longer than Gaga, though. They're not comparable examples.Madonna and Beyonce couldn't have dreamed of accomplishing as much in 2.5 years as Gaga has. I don't think you grasp quite how **ing massive and successful Gaga is. -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/lovegamejpgut.jpgMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 07/16/11 6:54:00 AM #89:	I think putting Gaga on Madonna's level is hasty. I'm not saying she won't be, but history always has to figure this s* out. I'd be saying this even if Gaga was ten times as popular as she is now. There's no substitute for historical perspective. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:99522] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> I think putting Gaga on Madonna's level is hasty. I'm not saying she won't be, but history always has to figure this s* out. I'd be saying this even if Gaga was ten times as popular as she is now. There's no substitute for historical perspective. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:55:00 AM #90:	I guess we'll just see 20 years from now. (I love having this conversation with people because being right is just the best feeling) -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/adamlambertgifja.gif Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99523] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> I guess we'll just see 20 years from now.(I love having this conversation with people because being right is just the best feeling) -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/adamlambertgifja.gifMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 07/16/11 6:56:00 AM #91:	I feel like when I see mer having an argument with someone, I realize how stupid they are. <cite>pjbasis posted [p:99524] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> I feel like when I see mer having an argument with someone, I realize how stupid they are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 6:58:00 AM #92:	From: pjbasis \| #091 I feel like when I see mer having an argument with someone, I realize how stupid they are. Care to elaborate? -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/friendsgifpa.gif Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99525] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: pjbasis \| #091I feel like when I see mer having an argument with someone, I realize how stupid they are.Care to elaborate? -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/friendsgifpa.gifMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 07/16/11 7:01:00 AM #93:	There are entire genres that don't get radio play, so...screw it, I'm posting some modern music. -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:99526] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> There are entire genres that don't get radio play, so...screw it, I'm posting some modern music. -- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 07/16/11 7:05:00 AM #94:	*Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted...* From: pjbasis \| #091 I feel like when I see mer having an argument with someone, I realize how stupid they are. Care to elaborate? I just mean I read the first five pages of the topic, and I felt your rebuttals were clear and concise ways to show these people how arrogant and/or misinformed they were, in a way that I did not think of. And I feel like it's happened before. <cite>pjbasis posted [p:99527] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted...From: pjbasis \| #091I feel like when I see mer having an argument with someone, I realize how stupid they are.Care to elaborate?I just mean I read the first five pages of the topic, and I felt your rebuttals were clear and concise ways to show these people how arrogant and/or misinformed they were, in a way that I did not think of.And I feel like it's happened before. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 07/16/11 7:08:00 AM #95:	From: pjbasis \| #094 I just mean I read the first five pages of the topic, and I felt your rebuttals were clear and concise ways to show these people how arrogant and/or misinformed they were, in a way that I did not think of. And I feel like it's happened before. Oh. Well thanks. (I first assumed you were implying the other people were stupid for bothering to argue with me because you think I'm delusional and immune to logic, or whatever.) -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/bunnystefanijpgqa.jpg Mer <cite>Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted [p:99528] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> From: pjbasis \| #094I just mean I read the first five pages of the topic, and I felt your rebuttals were clear and concise ways to show these people how arrogant and/or misinformed they were, in a way that I did not think of.And I feel like it's happened before.Oh.Well thanks. (I first assumed you were implying the other people were stupid for bothering to argue with me because you think I'm delusional and immune to logic, or whatever.) -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/bunnystefanijpgqa.jpgMer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 07/16/11 7:13:00 AM #96:	Haha yeah I thought it sounded like you were insulting mer too. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:99529] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Haha yeah I thought it sounded like you were insulting mer too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KimPilgrim 07/16/11 7:50:00 AM #97:	Gaga will never strip out of a cake for the president. -- ~LtM http://img.imgcake.com/r7767716653758jpgba.jpg <cite>KimPilgrim posted [p:99530] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> Gaga will never strip out of a cake for the president. -- ~LtMhttp://img.imgcake.com/r7767716653758jpgba.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KimPilgrim 07/16/11 7:52:00 AM #98:	No wait that was Maralyn Monroe Derp -- ~LtM http://img.imgcake.com/r7767716653758jpgba.jpg <cite>KimPilgrim posted [p:99531] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> No wait that was Maralyn MonroeDerp -- ~LtMhttp://img.imgcake.com/r7767716653758jpgba.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Real Truth 07/16/11 8:16:00 AM #99:	But she'll come on stage in a wheel chair and have eggs thrown at her. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>The Real Truth posted [p:99532] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> But she'll come on stage in a wheel chair and have eggs thrown at her. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
biolizardfan 07/16/11 8:17:00 AM #100:	apparently spelling is also a dying art -- _foolmo_ 'so I can potentially win the guru without getting the final right?' - BlAcK TuRtLe <cite>biolizardfan posted [p:99533] in Music is a... [t:59746481]...</cite> <quote> apparently spelling is also a dying art -- _foolmo_'so I can potentially win the guru without getting the final right?' - BlAcK TuRtLe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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