Board 8 > I've just beaten Metal Gear Solid for the first time

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GrapefruitKing
07/30/11 10:02:00 AM
#1:


Now ... I must go on an MGS binge and replay MGS2, beat MGS3 for the first time, and play MGS4.

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LeonhartFour
07/30/11 10:02:00 AM
#2:


Which ending did you get?

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GrapefruitKing
07/30/11 10:05:00 AM
#3:


Oh, there are multiple endings?


SPOILERS .... I guess





The one where Meryl and Snake go off in a snowmobile, and Meryl talks about life and stuff

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LeonhartFour
07/30/11 10:09:00 AM
#4:


Yeah, if you give in to Ocelot's torture, you get a different ending. The one you got is the canon one though.

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Some_Character
07/30/11 10:10:00 AM
#5:


There's a Meryl ending and an Otacon ending. Looks like you were man enough for the torture.

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Psycho_Kenshin
07/30/11 10:12:00 AM
#6:


You also gotta play Twin Snakes and rock that PeaceWalker (on PS3 if you don't got PSP) yessa. And maybe some Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 if you feelin' badass.

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Swiftlicious
07/30/11 10:14:00 AM
#7:


MGS2 gets a lot of hate but I really think it's the best in the series and an amazing game. I'm also a big fan of mind**** stories, futuristic weaponry and settings, and realistic characters like Raiden (see Tidus, I enjoy a whiny main character because not everyone is a god like snake) so I hope you enjoy it too.

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Psycho_Kenshin
07/30/11 10:16:00 AM
#9:


In military background, I'm not sure Raiden is a more realistic character personality wise than Snake, but hey. Not saying soldiers tend to be wisecracking badasses, but hah yeah. I do like Raiden.

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DeathChicken
07/30/11 10:16:00 AM
#10:


Peace Walker is awesome. Probably should beat MGS3 first, though, since it picks up from there

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GrapefruitKing
07/30/11 10:17:00 AM
#11:


MGS2 was actually the only one I had beaten before, and I wasn't sure why it was getting so much hate. Sure, you mostly don't play as Snake, but the game still has an MGS feel. I don't remember much about it story-wise, besides the fact that it gets f***ed up near the end, which is why I have to replay it.

Also, what happens in the ending you get if you do give in to torture?

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Psycho_Kenshin
07/30/11 10:17:00 AM
#12:


Meryl dies, and you ride off with Otacon.

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Swiftlicious
07/30/11 10:18:00 AM
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From: Psycho_Kenshin | Posted: 7/30/2011 1:16:13 PM | #009
In military background, I'm not sure Raiden is a more realistic character personality wise than Snake, but hey. Not saying soldiers tend to be wisecracking badasses, but hah yeah. I do like Raiden.


im in the military, and I can assure you most are that way when they first begin. If I'm not mistaken

*spoilers*

raiden is oblivious to much of his past and basically has only had "VR" training to his knowledge, right?

That makes this mission for him his "first" or rather he's a "green horn"

So yea, being a bit whiny and nervous for first mission, especially a solo one when you've only VRd, seems perfectly ok to me. Like I said though, I may be wrong with some details.

And yes, PW is great.

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pjbasis
07/30/11 10:18:00 AM
#14:


MGS2 best.

If you're gonna play Peace Walker, you might as well play Portable Ops too. It's a good game actually!
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LeonhartFour
07/30/11 10:19:00 AM
#15:


*MGS1 spoilers*



If you give in to the torture, Meryl dies, and Snake flies off into space with Otacon.

Okay, that part about space isn't true, but they do make a Space Odyssey reference with the fact that their names are Hal and Dave. But it's mostly the same, except for swapping Meryl with Otacon, and Snake has an emotional moment about not being able to save her.

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GrapefruitKing
07/30/11 10:19:00 AM
#16:


I'll consider playing Peace Walker between MGS3 and 4, but isn't it on the PSP only?

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Psycho_Kenshin
07/30/11 10:20:00 AM
#17:


It'll be on PS3 and 360 with the MGS HD collection in November oh yessa.

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LeonhartFour
07/30/11 10:20:00 AM
#18:


It's going to be part of an HD Remix Collection for PS3 along with MGS2 and 3.

Wouldn't recommend playing Peace Walker before MGS4 though.

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GrapefruitKing
07/30/11 10:23:00 AM
#19:


Well I won't get the HD REmix just for Peace Walker, considering the fact that I already own MGS3, and will borrow MGS2 from a friend

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LeonhartFour
07/30/11 10:24:00 AM
#20:


Do you own the original MGS3 or Subsistence?

Because if you don't own Subsistence, then you're missing out.

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Psycho_Kenshin
07/30/11 10:24:00 AM
#21:


You gotta buy MGS2 and MGS3 at least 3 times, c'mon now. Plus it'll be widescreen, displayed at HD res, anti-aliasing, all that good stuff.

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GrapefruitKing
07/30/11 10:25:00 AM
#22:


I have Subsistence
But I forget what it adds to the original MGS3 besides online

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DeathChicken
07/30/11 10:25:00 AM
#23:


Subsistence also comes with the original Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 on the disk

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LeonhartFour
07/30/11 10:27:00 AM
#24:


Much better camera being the big thing it adds to the main game.

Also MGS3 Secret Theater the best

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DeathChicken
07/30/11 10:29:00 AM
#25:


And boss rush mode

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GrapefruitKing
07/30/11 11:21:00 AM
#26:


Just the main game is more than enough for me!

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foolmor0n
07/30/11 11:24:00 AM
#27:


From: Swiftlicious | #007
MGS2
realistic characters


I hope you realize what you are saying

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foolmor0n
07/30/11 11:25:00 AM
#28:


Anyways, Raiden is a great character

It's Rose that is the problem

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XIII_rocks
07/30/11 11:29:00 AM
#29:


MGS2 has a legit claim for "best game ever", so like it or you suck

Basically

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LeonhartFour
07/30/11 11:30:00 AM
#30:


From: XIII_rocks | #029
MGS2 has a legit claim for "best game ever", so like it or you suck

Basically


The worst MGS game doesn't have a legit claim for "best game ever"

Basically

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DeathChicken
07/30/11 11:36:00 AM
#31:


The gameplay of MGS2 was great. The environments were variations on the same repetitive room over and over and over, and the less said about the narrative the better

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DeathChicken
07/30/11 11:37:00 AM
#32:


And it was only more glaring since the ship in the prologue was a really *good* and creative environment. Then the Big Shell was junk

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GrapefruitKing
07/30/11 11:54:00 AM
#33:


foolmor0n posted...
Anyways, Raiden is a great character

It's Rose that is the problem


this is true

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Jeff Zero
07/30/11 12:16:00 PM
#34:


Rose is the worst character with more than two lines in the entire franchise.

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SnoicFactor
07/30/11 12:19:00 PM
#35:


what rating do you give MGS1(assuming you beat the ps1 version)? Also, rank the mgs games you beat!

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ZFS
07/30/11 12:20:00 PM
#36:


Oh god Rose. Raiden's pretty good, but Rose. Rose is a terrorist.

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Jeff Zero
07/30/11 12:25:00 PM
#37:


ZFS posted...
Oh god Rose. Raiden's pretty good, but Rose. Rose is a terrorist.

The trouble for me is that I thoroughly enjoy Raiden whenever he isn't speaking with or mentally centered on Rose... but this happens rather frequently, obviously.

When he isn't talking to her or mentioning her or reflecting on the fact that she in fact exists he's a good character. But she's like the stereotypical nagging screwed-up girlfriend who "brings our bro down, man, we gotta get rid of her somehow and bring back our bro" -- she's a damn sitcom trope is what she is but we're expected to take her seriously.

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GrapefruitKing
07/30/11 1:02:00 PM
#38:


SnoicFactor posted...
what rating do you give MGS1(assuming you beat the ps1 version)? Also, rank the mgs games you beat!

I'd give it a solid (ooh, look at that pun) 9.5/10. I guess I enjoyed it more than MGS2, but I'll have to replay this one to know for sure. I've also played MGS3 a few years ago but stopped halway through. Haven't played 4 yet, but got it for free when I bought my PS3.

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Iamdead7
07/30/11 1:08:00 PM
#39:


3 > 4 > 2 > 1


all are absolutely amazing though

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FFDragon
07/30/11 1:10:00 PM
#40:


2 > 1 > 4 > 3

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Wanglicious
07/30/11 1:22:00 PM
#41:


you can only be as good as the baggage you carry.
and when said baggage is rose, you suck.

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pjbasis
07/30/11 1:24:00 PM
#42:


2 > 1 > 3 > 4
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Jeff Zero
07/30/11 1:38:00 PM
#43:


3 > 4 > 1 > 2

All of them are at least an 8.8 though.

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Demon HunterX
07/30/11 1:44:00 PM
#44:


MGS1 and 2 are the best in the series. MGS2's Tanker mission might be the best 3ish hours (first playthrough would be about that long right? its been so long) in the MGS series, and honestly is some of the best 3 hours you'll find in gaming.

The plant portion starts off pretty well, becomes a little tedious in the middle of it, and then becoming a pretty solid mind ****. Of course, this is coming from the first time i played it back in 2001, which was when i was 15 and less critical of plot holes and lol worthy twists. But MGS2 is still a top notch game

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Jeff Zero
07/30/11 1:47:00 PM
#45:


MGS2's Tanker mission might be the best 3ish hours (first playthrough would be about that long right? its been so long)

It takes me about three hours but my play times for even 1 and 2 are regularly upwards of 25 hours because I goof around endlessly. So I'd say it's more like an hour long.

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Vlado
07/30/11 1:47:00 PM
#46:


Whoever has 2 on top should have their Metal Gear license revoked. 2 is firmly on bottom. Any ranking of the other 3 is acceptable.

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pjbasis
07/30/11 1:51:00 PM
#47:


Vlado posted...
Whoever has 2 on top should have their Metal Gear license revoked. 2 is firmly on bottom. Any ranking of the other 3 is acceptable.

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Vlado
07/30/11 1:52:00 PM
#48:


2 is the best in being the worst of the main 4 Solid ones.

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pjbasis
07/30/11 1:54:00 PM
#49:


lol yeah I get it I get it. Don't kill it man.
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SnoicFactor
07/30/11 1:55:00 PM
#50:


Vlado posted...
2 is the best in being the worst of the main 4 Solid ones.



This. There's just no way. 1 and 3 are in a different tier completely. 4 wins because it beats 2 in just about everything.

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