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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 5:31:00 PM
#401:


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Freaking awesome.

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ZenOfThunder
08/17/11 5:46:00 PM
#402:


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ZenOfThunder
08/17/11 5:47:00 PM
#403:


alright, I figured I would wait 'til it's done, but I'm going back to school soon so I won't have time to finish it. here are pics of my INCREDIBLY nerdy room, one that is complete chick repellant yet zensgirlfriend still comes down here

THE ZEN CAVE:

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RayDyn
08/17/11 5:56:00 PM
#404:


Two things...

From: ZenOfThunder | Posted: 8/17/2011 8:47:08 PM | #402
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I envy your Bowie poster, Zen. And...

From: ShadowHalo17 | Posted: 8/17/2011 8:31:51 PM | #401
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Freaking awesome.


I recognize Galactus, who're the other two?

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 5:56:00 PM
#405:


i'm jelly

Except for the posters of terrible movies that don't exist.

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ZenOfThunder
08/17/11 5:56:00 PM
#406:


WHAT KILLED DA DINOSAURS, HALO?

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Not Dave
08/17/11 5:56:00 PM
#407:


holy crap zen

...where'd you get the traffic light?

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 5:58:00 PM
#408:


From: ZenOfThunder | #406
WHAT KILLED DA DINOSAURS, HALO?


DA ICE AGE

F*** you got me doing it.

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PumpkinCoach
08/17/11 6:00:00 PM
#409:


oh man, I wish I still had my ash ketchum hat

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 6:01:00 PM
#410:


From: RayDyn | #404
I recognize Galactus, who're the other two?


Aegis and Tenebrous. They're Proemial Gods, Galactus is the only force in the universe stronger than them, and even then not by a whole lot.

It basically goes

Galactus
Aegis/Tenebrous
(Huge ass gap)
Other powerful characters like Silver Surfer and Thanos.

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ZenOfThunder
08/17/11 6:01:00 PM
#411:


From: Not Dave | #407
holy crap zen

...where'd you get the traffic light?


my mom is dating this guy who works the electricity or something in new york city, and the used his clearance to get into this closed-off street one day and stole a traffic light and all the road signs I have hanging. he gave them to me when he moved

yyyyup

it still works! it's bright as f*** though and it's attached to an even brighter "walk" and "stop walking" sign

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ZenOfThunder
08/17/11 6:17:00 PM
#412:


did anybody actually read Ultimate Fallout 6

I skimmed it and then tossed it aside

can someone give me the deets

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 6:21:00 PM
#413:


Oh s***.

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Look out.

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samsoknight
08/17/11 6:37:00 PM
#414:


From: ZenOfThunder | #412
did anybody actually read Ultimate Fallout 6

I skimmed it and then tossed it aside

can someone give me the deets


Aunt May and Gwen are moving to France. Tony Stark gave them a villa to live in.

Kitty, Bobby, and Johnny are moving to the morloc tunnels

Nick Fury says Captain America quit and is preparing for a s***storm.

Nick Fury confronted Mary Jane about her story she wrote about blaming him and other super heroes for Peter's death. He said that he loved Peter and also blamed himself for his death. That's where it ends.
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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 6:37:00 PM
#415:


Just read Captain America.

Zen you said you were confused, about what? Seemed pretty straightforward to me, unless you didn't read the first issue?

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 6:38:00 PM
#416:


From: samsoknight | #414
Nick Fury says Captain America quit .


Captain America doesn't quit.

Stupid Ultimate universe.

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TheKoolAidShoto
08/17/11 6:45:00 PM
#417:


Captain America was straight forward to me too, in a loony way, but Steve McNiven's artwork is doing nothing for me, with his boring ass panel layouts and his stiff as concrete action scenes

Thank goodness Alan Davis is doing the next story!

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ZenOfThunder
08/17/11 7:03:00 PM
#418:


I read the first issue but I don't remember anything about it other than captain america ran around and looked cool

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TheKoolAidShoto
08/17/11 7:03:00 PM
#419:


That's what the recap pages in the front are for, Zen

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Princess Anri
08/17/11 7:22:00 PM
#420:


From: TheKoolAidShoto | #417
Thank goodness Alan Davis is doing the next story!


yeeeeeessssss

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Princess Anri
08/17/11 7:27:00 PM
#421:


From: ZenOfThunder | #399
also, if it wasn't clear: STAY AWAY FROM AVENGERS

this week's issue was probably the WORST THING I HAVE EVER READ EVER

seriously

stay the hell away


WE'LL SEE.

I am gonna read Spider Island: Amazing Spider-Girl next then I'll see if Avengers 16 it can somehow be worse than the last Secret Avengers.

I doubt it.

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Princess Anri
08/17/11 7:31:00 PM
#422:


Daaaaaaamn it!

I just saw the variant cover to Iron Age 3 and I got the regular instead!

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The regular had Dazzler so it's not all bad but damn I wish I had known.

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Icon Tang
08/17/11 7:32:00 PM
#423:


ShadowHalo17 posted...
From: ZenOfThunder | #399
also, if it wasn't clear: STAY AWAY FROM AVENGERS

this week's issue was probably the WORST THING I HAVE EVER READ EVER

seriously

stay the hell away
Uh duh.

It's Bendis.


could be worse.

it could be flash #13

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Princess Anri
08/17/11 7:32:00 PM
#424:


Icon did you read Secret Avengers 15?

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RayDyn
08/17/11 7:33:00 PM
#425:


From: Princess Anri | Posted: 8/17/2011 10:31:21 PM | #422
Daaaaaaamn it!

I just saw the variant cover to Iron Age 3 and I got the regular instead!

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The regular had Dazzler so it's not all bad but damn I wish I had known.


Why does that look shopped together?

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Icon Tang
08/17/11 7:34:00 PM
#426:


I'm still a few issues behind on Secret Avengers. I haven't read since the .1 issue, I think. there's a few on my table.

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ZenOfThunder
08/17/11 7:39:00 PM
#427:


we got in that variant and I wondered the same thing

also I didn't realize they announced so many alts for UMvC3. some are so random. like armored spidey from that issue where he fought massacre (the recent one right after glowy spider-man) and Age of X captain america. Age of X?! what why

FF Spider-Man and Doom are top tier tho

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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 7:49:00 PM
#428:


@KyleDHiggins Kyle Higgins
Today I got to write "make sure the face on the osprey looks like a panda." #ilovemyjob


....I want every single user in this topic to make a bet on whether this is Deathstroke or Nightwing.

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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 7:52:00 PM
#429:


Also Zen fist bump for Small Soldiers, Tali, and signed Tommy photograph.

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ZenOfThunder
08/17/11 7:55:00 PM
#430:


thanks!!

I still remember meeting tommy, I was like 6 or something, it was INCREDIBLE he is so cool

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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 7:59:00 PM
#431:


Check out dem Teen Titans pages.

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Awww yeah

Tim still a sexy beast

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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 8:11:00 PM
#432:


So I read Avengers because Zen told me not.

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....mother of christ.


Also lol art errors.

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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 8:21:00 PM
#433:


For the sake of closure I read the last issue of Titans.

Holy mother of god, what has been going on in this series since I quit?

Jericho is alive again and can talk.

Giganta had Ryan Choi's baby.

Roy kicked the **** out of Deathstroke in hand to hand combat.

Holy hell.

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ZenOfThunder
08/17/11 8:40:00 PM
#434:


did giganta and choi have sex while she was huge and he was tiny

...

yeah

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 10:05:00 PM
#435:


From: ZenOfThunder | #427
we got in that variant and I wondered the same thing

also I didn't realize they announced so many alts for UMvC3. some are so random. like armored spidey from that issue where he fought massacre (the recent one right after glowy spider-man) and Age of X captain america. Age of X?! what why

FF Spider-Man and Doom are top tier tho


Where are you getting such confirmation? Man I love alternate costumes.

Armored Spidey isn't a surprise either, because he used it about as long as his stealth suit, and that was in the original game.

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 10:05:00 PM
#436:


From: Icon Tang | #426
I'm still a few issues behind on Secret Avengers. I haven't read since the .1 issue, I think. there's a few on my table.


You should probably just skip Spencer's issues.

They're terrible.

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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 10:10:00 PM
#437:


Halo why you no comment on SEXY TIM

I really don't get the Lobdell hate

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TheKoolAidShoto
08/17/11 10:10:00 PM
#438:


I had been told, at least a dozen times, to fire Tom. Tom was late. Tom was busy. Tom was distracted. And now, Tom was not doing his best on Spider-Man. Inker Rubinstein quit, annoyed that DeFalco and Frenz were habitually erratic. I scheduled fill in after fill in, affecting sales. Tom and I planned one schedule fix after another, but these efforts were routinely torpedoed by Shooter himself, who'd suddenly send Tom here or make Tom drop what he was doing and work on thus and so. All the while complaining about our near-misses (as I said, I never, not once missed shipping) with Tom, urging me to get rid of him. It was Jim himself who was playing havoc with Tom's writing schedule.

Finally, I came up with an idea: Sensational Spider-Man by DeFalco/Frenz. This would, likely, have been a quarterly special, like Spider-Man Unlimited or some such. Tom and Ron could do as much Spider-Man as they wanted and were capable of doing, and we'd be off the hook for the monthly deadline. Tom and Ron continue to do the work they love, I get out of Shooter's line of fire. I told Jim I was taking Tom off of AMAZING, and creating this other animal for him and Ron. Jim said, fine.

Tom took the news very hard. It ended our friendship, and, I am told, Tom saw Jim's hand n this and threatened to quit. A stunned Shooter appeared at my door the next day, and I knew I was about to be fired. He asked me, and I quote, "Why'd you do that? [fire Tom]" I just stared at him as he stammered and stared at the floor and shook his head and exhaled, and I felt like I was in The Godfather II, the victim of some macabre Corleone plot. What the blessed hell was this man talking about?!? I cleared this all with him before I did it. More to the point, for months he'd been after me to do something about Tom.

I said, "Because you told me to. We talked about this beforehand." To which Jim replied, and I'll never forget this, "Yeah— but I never thought you'd actually do it."

That's when I knew it was over. That, somehow, I'd become Oswald. That either Jim or Tom or both were just doing some macabre thing that had nothing to do with me other than I was the guy sitting in the Spider chair. I went to see Tom, but he was red with fury and said things to me I'll never forget. Hurtful things from a guy I had breakfast with for two years. From a guy I drove home on occasion, and from a guy I regularly went to for advice. Shell-shocked and numb, I feebly pitched Sensational to Tom, but he wanted no part of it. I was dazed and confused and lost and terrified. It was one of the most horrible moments of my life.

Not wanting to hide behind Tom, I called Ron myself and gave him the bad news. Ron took it even harder than Tom, so much so that I worried about him being alone, and went back to see Tom, who absolutely did not want to see me— ever— and Tom got Ron on the phone and kind of talked him down off the ledge.

I went back to my office and tried to process what on earth I'd done to myself and my professional career. The horror of it was I'd alienated Shooter, my mentor, and alienated DeFalco, one of my best friends in the business. Over the years I'd moved so far away from the rest of the staff, I had no sure allies there. And now I had no idea who was telling me the truth and who was lying and what was what. All I knew was, suddenly, I was Oswald. The most hated man in comics.


- Christopher Priest on his time as Spider-Man editor in the 80s

Oh. So THAT'S how my favorite ASM run of the 80s ended prematurely.

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 10:13:00 PM
#439:


From: KimPilgrim | #437
Halo why you no comment on SEXY TIM

I really don't get the Lobdell hate


I don't either, Teen Titans is looking great. Thanks for reminding me though, I wanted to comment on sexy Tim.

He's still sexy. Of course, because if he wasn't there would be so much rage, DC wouldn't be able to withstand the pure force of the hatred.

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the icon ownz all
08/17/11 10:15:00 PM
#440:


From: ShadowHalo17 | #436
You should probably just skip Spencer's issues.

They're terrible.


What didn't you like about them? It was probably just a fill-in arc before Ellis could take over, but Spencer is a great, dependable writer capable of working with a large, dynamic cast.


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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 10:16:00 PM
#441:


Oh thank god I never thought I'd ever get another Spencer fan in here besides me.

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the icon ownz all
08/17/11 10:18:00 PM
#442:


I've been on the Nick Spencer train for ages! His War Machine sucks, though.


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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 10:19:00 PM
#443:


Yeah I was gonna say, LtM feels the same about Spencer, but even he wouldn't be able to deny how bad these issues are. I mean I guess you can try them, but pretty much everyone agrees that they suck. Spencer must not have been trying at all. 15 was just so full of crap, even though it starred Black Widow.

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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 10:19:00 PM
#444:


I really like that they;re taking Tim in another direction. While I liked Nicieza's Red Robin, I felt like he was turning the character into Batman Lite crossed with Macguyver the end there. The whole knife chest things was like "what".

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 10:19:00 PM
#445:


From: the icon ownz all | #442
I've been on the Nick Spencer train for ages! His War Machine sucks, though.


Yeah, War Machine does suck. If you can admit that, then you should be able to understand that his Secret Avengers is the same, as in the worst quality.

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ShadowHalo17
08/17/11 10:20:00 PM
#446:


From: KimPilgrim | #444
I really like that they;re taking Tim in another direction. While I liked Nicieza's Red Robin, I felt like he was turning the character into Batman Lite crossed with Macguyver the end there. The whole knife chest things was like "what".


Oh yeah he's definitely been heading down the path that would lead him to become the Batman from Titans of Tomorrow. Which I was not liking.

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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 10:22:00 PM
#447:


From: the icon ownz all | #442
I've been on the Nick Spencer train for ages! His War Machine sucks, though.


I've honestly never read any of his Marvel books besides the Cloak & Dagger book. Morning Glories and THUNDER Agents are great, and I liked that Jimmy olsen mini a lot.

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the icon ownz all
08/17/11 10:24:00 PM
#448:


Considering he's also been working on Morning Glories, THUNDER Agents, Infinite Vacation, Jimmy Olsen, Cloak & Dagger, and apparently some Ultimate books, I can forgive him a bad book or two.

Picked up 15-Love #s 1-3 at my LCS today. Anyone read it? I assume Anri read it, at least. Looks neat, think I'll read it tonight.


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TheKoolAidShoto
08/17/11 10:31:00 PM
#449:


Like I said, Spencer just got too big too fast, and spreads himself too thin.

That said, I do like Cloak and Dagger, and Infinite Vacation is very good.

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KimPilgrim
08/17/11 10:33:00 PM
#450:


Synder is talking up a STORM on Twitter about Batman. When you tweet 20 times in a row with one message, it's time to get a blog.

http://twitter.com/#!/Ssnyder1835

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