Board 8 > ComicsTopic 14: Down the Rabbit Hole

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Reminds me of the four different Spider-Man ongoings with four different writers and artists, each one telling a part of the story.

Bad form Marvel, baaaaad form

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I have a morbid curiosity in Batman Odyssey anyway

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A lot of stuff has happened to Batman and his family since the 90s >_>

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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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F*** yeah Mark Brooks.



I wish more artists did this.

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In less superhero news, Asterios Polyp is f***ing incredible, and if you like good comics, read it. David Mazzuchelli is godlike

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Best graphic novel of '09! What took you so long? Did it just come out in trade? I have the hulking hardcover.


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You know, thinking on it now, I read a lot if image comics back in the 90's. I loved The Maxx and Spawn, had the first 15 issues of each. I remember reading Gen¹³, (Caitlin Fairchild is part of the reason I love redheads >_>) and there were some other books I read but don't recall off the top of my head. I also read X-men in those days, I loved X-Men, and Spiderman, I think I stopped reading shortly after Venom got his own series, which is weird because I liked Venom, and the Carnage issues of Spiderman were my favorite. I remember this one issue of Spiderman that had a silver cover, it was some anniversary issue, don't remember what year though. If my brother hasn't lost them I should still have all my copies.

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From: RayDyn | #258
I read a lot if image comics back in the 90's.

The Image of the 90s is not the Image of now. They've improved and diversified so much since they formed. Best comics publisher out there.


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From: the icon ownz all | #257
Best graphic novel of '09! What took you so long? Did it just come out in trade? I have the hulking hardcover.

I just got around to it myself for reasons I can't explain. It's seriously wonderful.

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Looking back at 09, it might be my favourite fiction period of that year. Well, that or Finch. It's just a wonderful story of unfulfilled ambition. The art is incredible. I don't know if many on B8 have read it. I recommended it to Pepsi, who loved it, and I pushed it on Cokes, who probably downloaded it and ignored it.


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From: RayDyn | #258
You know, thinking on it now, I read a lot if image comics back in the 90's. I loved The Maxx and Spawn, had the first 15 issues of each. I remember reading Gen¹³, (Caitlin Fairchild is part of the reason I love redheads >_>) and there were some other books I read but don't recall off the top of my head. I also read X-men in those days, I loved X-Men, and Spiderman, I think I stopped reading shortly after Venom got his own series, which is weird because I liked Venom, and the Carnage issues of Spiderman were my favorite. I remember this one issue of Spiderman that had a silver cover, it was some anniversary issue, don't remember what year though. If my brother hasn't lost them I should still have all my copies.

Amazing Spider-Man 400.

That was the issue that Aunt May died, fantastic issue.

Then it was retconned into being an actress hired by Norman Osborn.

Yeah.

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avengers movie clips from set:





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From: ShadowHalo17 | Posted: 8/16/2011 11:53:15 PM | #262
Then it was retconned

Probably a good thing I stopped reading then, because that set the stage for OMD.

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I guess you could say that. It started the trend that Aunt May can't die, for some reason.

It's bull s***.

She needs to die, she literally has no point to her character anymore, she's even moving away from New York City. She's effectively dead now anyway!

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she just moved the Boston! she is out of peter's life! THE LAST IMPORTANT THING SHE DID WAS WORK AT MR. HAN'S CHARITY PLACE

SHE HAS TO DIE SHE HAS TO DIE I HATE IT THAT WHENEVER THERE IS A BIG EVENT PETER'S FIRST REACTION IS TO CALL AUNT MAY

HFK:BA:BF:VA:S

NERD RAGE

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You kids and your nerd rage about fictional characters

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From: TheKoolAidShoto | #256
In less superhero news, Asterios Polyp is f***ing incredible, and if you like good comics, read it. David Mazzuchelli is godlike

it was a technical masterpiece

but

i felt that for all the hype it got, it was underwhelming when it came to the bland plot!

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From: TheKoolAidShoto | #267
You kids and your nerd rage about fictional characters

I've got a friend who said he's dropping comics forever if Jason Todd ****s Dick Grayson's Ex.

Nerd rage is a powerful thing.

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a plot is one of the least important pieces of a character study. asterios polyp is all about the whys and hows, not the whats.


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When there's nothing left to burn, you have to set Bidoof on fire.

Oh hey Nostalgia Critic actually doing something people might care about.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/32071-top-11-batman-tas-episodes

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You know, I will agree Nerd Rage is a powerful and usually pointless thing. But if you read a character and grow to like them, and maybe understand some of their motivations, principles and ideals, when something like OMD happens for apparently no f***ing reason (this is just what I gather from what I have heard, granted what I have heard is from nerd raging fans) it leaves a bad taste in your mouth and wells up the rage, that rage needs a target. In Spidermans case, in universe, that target is Aunt May. I will admit, I could be way off target here, but that's just how I see it.

Personally, I tend to not let nerd rage get to me, but that's not to say a comic can't make me feel. Case in point, Batgirl #24, I haven't read any Batgirl comics except that one, and the last few pages of that comic made me feel kind bad for Stephanie Brown. And WotGL Aftermath makes me want to kill the Guardians my self.

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OMD is bad. But that shouldn't stop you from reading the other, good Spider-Man stories before or after it.

Man, I wish this Linkara guy wasn't so f***ing terrible.

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There have been some great Linkara episodes and his Power Rangers stuff is awesome but for the most part he's just annoying.

What writeup should I do next that nobody else wants to do?



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It hasn't stopped me from reading the good Spider-Man stories before or after it. I'm currently LOVING Dan Slott's run.

Doesn't change that I'm still pissed about OMD and I'm still pissed about Aunt May being alive when she has no use, and I'm still pissed that Peter is not married to MJ like he should be, Carlie Cooper is lame.

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From: KimPilgrim | #275
There have been some great Linkara episodes and his Power Rangers stuff is awesome but for the most part he's just annoying.

What writeup should I do next that nobody else wants to do?

Hawk and Dove!

I look forward to that write-up.

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Who's doing the Batwoman write-up? I'm looking forward to reading it.

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Carlie is pretty lame, although i like current Super-Cop Carlie and her infectiousness enthusiasm.

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I can do Batwoman sometime this week. I've been meaning to reread it, anyway.


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Go for it.

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From: the icon ownz all | #270
a plot is one of the least important pieces of a character study. asterios polyp is all about the whys and hows, not the whats.

but his character arc felt pretty formulaic and predictable! stuck-up know-it-all hard-ass from the city goes to the countryside to learn about the simpler things in life etc.

maybe it's because of all the hype surrounding that book that when i read it, i was expecting some mind-blowing ideas

what i got was an old heartwarming tale of a man's transformation done with all the technical brilliance of one of comics' best storytellers

i appreciated all the complex techniques mazzucchelli employed with his art with all its layers but... it just didn't have that emotional resonance or, as i've said, "mind-blowing" aspect for me

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it's not an intricate, complex story, no. if your biggest issue is that you didn't connect to it on an emotional level, that's fine. it's a personal story, and those don't click with everyone, even if the character goes through a universal crisis.


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Oh **** New 52 commerical.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/08/16/dc-comics-first-look-at-the-new-52-commercial/

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From: KimPilgrim | #284
Oh **** New 52 commerical.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/08/16/dc-comics-first-look-at-the-new-52-commercial/

THANK GOD NONE OF MY CUSTOMERS BELIEVED ME WHEN I TOLD THEM THERE WERE GOING TO BE COMMERCIALS

where do you think they'll air?

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If they're smart, major networks and kids channels like DIsney/CN/Nickelodean.

If they're dumb, SyFy.

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There was like 1/3 a second of the new Hawkman logo in there.

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Hopefully they're smart.

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Actually, who knows, they may do it on all of those.

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hopefully they do it on EVERY CHANNEL

during prime time

or the super bowl somehow

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they should tie each channel to a character

The Military channel can have Sgt. Rock
The Horror channel can have iVampire
BET can have Mr. Terrific and Batwing

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From: the icon ownz all | #283
it's not an intricate, complex story, no. if your biggest issue is that you didn't connect to it on an emotional level, that's fine. it's a personal story, and those don't click with everyone, even if the character goes through a universal crisis.

yeah, that's pretty much it

it's a great book and i'd give it a 9/10 in my completely arbitrary rating scale

it's even funny how there's sort of a connection with the "hole" right in the middle of the book and the ending with how i felt after reading it!

although it wasn't just mazzucchelli who worked on it, the comic book adaptation of city of glass had more of an effect on me!

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Lifetime can have Wonder Woman

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Animal Planet can have Animal Man
History Channel can have All Star Western
Comedy central can have Suicide Squad

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Spike can have Hawk & Dove

EXTREME LIEFELDIAN PROPORTIONS FOR MEEEEEN

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Hawk and Dove, written by Sterling Gates with are by Rob Liefeld

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/new-52-hawk-and-dove/


Description: Hawk and Dove are the DCU avatars for the Lords of Chaos and Order respectively. Dove can fly and shoot beams of light, and attempts a non-violent approach to confrontation when possible, generating a calming aura. Hawk beats the **** out of people, and to nobody's surprise pisses people off consistently. The direction the book appears to be taking is to introduce avatars for other lords, essentially riding the coattails of the direction the Green Lantern franchise has been going the last 3/4 decade. They'll also be body guards for the president early on, so expect the heavy political spin of books past to shine itself.

Creative Team: Sterling Gates is a consistently above average writer who recently joined DC, making Supergirl interesting again for the first time in years. He has a lot of potential to become a big shot in the future but he's not quite there yet.

But he's not who we're going to talk about here.

Chances are you've heard of Rob Liefeld. Hell, there are people who know who Liefeld is who have never read a comic book before in their life. Most of the time he's referred to ad the worst artist the in the comic book industry. And he doesn't deserve it. Oh, he's bad. He's REAL bad. But he's not boring. It's rare that anyone would actually put down a Liefeld comic, in the way you can't stop watching a train crash. He has no sense of proportion, drawing people that are a dozen heads tall and mean with shoulders almost as wide as their height, women with hips wider than their legs are long, torsos that just SHOULD NOT DO THAT, and to this day the ability to draw FEET, his mortal enemy, still evades him. But he has improved, Hawk and Dove is looking to be his best work yet. This is saying very little, but you have to admit that this:





is worse than this:

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Ease of Access: The characters of Hawk and Dove have a ridiculously convoluted past, switching between a male and female avatar for each lord over the years, but this will be sticking with their second, recently revived, most "popular" iteration, and doing so fro, scratch. It shouldn't be to hard to get into.

Recommendation: Nope. It's not because of the rookie writer, or the "art". It almost doesn't matter who's on the book. Hawk and Dove have never proven themselves to be interesting characters at all. This could change, so maybe check in on it after as while, but it's unlikely it's ever going to go anywhere spectacular. Save your money.

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with are by rob liefeld

arrrrre

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From: KimPilgrim | Posted: 8/17/2011 1:41:39 AM | #296
but you have to admit that this:





is worse than this:

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Don't you mean better?

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In all seriousness though, that write up is hilarious. In a good way.

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I think he forgot a "not" in there.

is not worse than this

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