Board 8 > SM64 > SMG

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Oh, and worst final boss ever

Not just in Mario

Ever

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From: RevolverSaro | #048
Whats so bad about Sunshine? It's got a charming atmosphere, clever level design and great platforming. Plus it has Yoshi

Sunshine had the potential to be good. Personally, I like some of the levels quite a bit, but some of them are just too big and there's too much punishment for even making small mistakes (Like in Ricco Harbor, if you fall from the catwalks up at the top of the level, it's going to take you several minutes to even get back up to where you were, and it's not that hard to mess up).

And if you go for all 120 Shines, you'll realize the terribleness of 24 Blue Coin Shines when they could've very easily given you 2 or 3 more worlds instead. Just feels like laziness.

Edit: Another lazy thing, in pretty much every world, you fight the same boss of the world at least twice for a star, or so it seems. Heck, you fight that Gooper Blooper thing like four friggin' times.

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SM64's just tons of awesome playground levels to do stuff like Green Devil Challenges



not saying SMG is bad though, it's good stuff, SMG2 is much better though

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From: Diet Water | #001
SM64 >

Haha nope.

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how about back to the same level seven times lol

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how about that POS wiimote?

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yeah it's not the best

frankly i dont like any 3d marios

i just hate 64 the most

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Am I the only one who feels that SM64 = SMG?

SM64 wins in exploration and adventuring, SMG wins in pure platforming and production values/music.

They're very different games really, but equally good at what they do.

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sm64 is better

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Not to mention Sunshine cranks up the badness of 64 by decreasing the worlds and increasing the things you need to collect in it.

It was the Throwback Galaxy that showed me how small the SM64 worlds were compare to the Galaxy games.

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I'd say this is true on the fact that SM64 is just better.

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Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...
Am I the only one who feels that SM64 = SMG?

SM64 wins in exploration and adventuring, SMG wins in pure platforming and production values/music.

They're very different games really, but equally good at what they do.

I came to SM64 after SMG and while I prefer the latter, I'm a huge fan of both (however, both Galaxies are godly while SM64, close but no cigar).

I agree with the latter point so hard. It's also a big reason why SM64 holds more appeal to me than something like...say, either Zelda game from the same console.

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Better, maybe. Just plain better, big no no.

Although both Galaxies are my favorite Nintendo games aside from Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Metroid so bah. I don't see that changing much at all in the future, either. As of now, DKC2 is probably the best Nintendo game I haven't played. Maybe MK64 is close behind.

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I think that SM64 = SMS, more or less, and SMG1 is pretty close, but I think I like SM64 and SMS just slightly more. I agree that SMG1 didn't really need the Wiimote too much. SMG2 I didn't like, because the Wiimote usage was much higher than SMG1 and it was kind of overboard.

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What the heck?

I don't remember Wii-mote usage being more prominent at all in Galaxy 2 than in the original, and my last playthroughs of both of them were only two to three months apart.

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SM64 is narrowly superior to the original Galaxy. Galaxy 2, however, just might be better. Maybe.

And yeah, 64's got a ton of potential depth if you're into challenge runs.

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SM64 da bess

galaxies are way overhyped because wii owners are desperate to justify purchasing that abortion of a console.

From: Liquid Wind | #071
galaxies are way overhyped because wii owners are desperate to justify purchasing that abortion of a console.

Liquid Wind post

(Perhaps the same could be said of all post-SNES Nintendo consoles)

From: TsunamiXXVIII | #068
SMG2 I didn't like, because the Wiimote usage was much higher than SMG1 and it was kind of overboard.

...What? No, it isn't. What else do you use the Wiimote for in Galaxy 2 that you didn't use it for in Galaxy 1? Fluzzard essentially replaces ray surfing from Galaxy 1, so it's not there. Galaxy 2 doesn't have a higher number of rolling ball stars, so it can't be that. None of the new power-ups require a bunch of motion control usage (unless you consider spinning to make clouds appear overboard).

Not getting it.

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I do like 64 more than Galaxy, but only marginally.

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Sunshine is great, stop your hating.

Anyways, SMG>>>>>SMS>SMG>>>>>>SM64

I somehow enjoyed the blue coins, since it gave a reason to explore worlds other than to get pointless 1-ups.

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Galaxy is a 9/10 game with a Gamecube controller and a 3/10 game with the bad sex toy. Galaxy came after Wind Waker, Mario 64 came before. Since Wind Waker is the cutoff line for when Nintendo stopped being any good, the answer here is obvious.

And lol trying to bash Diet Water, you people have no idea how smart the dude is. This topic is spot-on, Nintendo fans are just incapable of pattern recognition or higher thinking. They never learn or retain anything from history, mainly because they're all goombas and march to whatever tune Nintendo commands they march to. Thankfully the Wii is the most hated console ever and the Wii U is prime to tank.

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(Perhaps the same could be said of all post-SNES Nintendo consoles)

the N64 and the gamecube are a step down from the SNES in their game libraries, but the wii is even further beneath that. there's mario galaxy and...that's pretty much it if you're an american, until skyward sword comes out mario galaxies are literally the only reason to own a wii.

but the wii is even further beneath that. there's mario galaxy and...that's pretty much it

N64: OoT/SM64
GC: Melee

I'm not seeing a difference.

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N64: OoT

stopped reading, not even the best zelda on N64.

Then I shall consider it a victory

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you consider OoT a reason to own an N64, what's it like waking up every day knowing that you're still alive and still have to suffer the penalty of being you?

It's awesome

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Besides doesn't change the point that the N64 and GC has just as few great games as the Wii.

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From: CherryCokes | #034
do you typically face away from the screen when you are playing other games

the way i normally hold other controllers, they're more upward-facing than forward-facing, so it is a bit annoying for me. though it's not like the n64's controller is a shining example, with that analog stick it's even worse.

N64

SM64
majora's mask
goldeneye
perfect dark
SF64
F-Zero X

gamecube

melee
metroid prime
f-zero GX
REmake
the twin snakes

wii

mario galaxies

wii is such a great console lmao

though I'll give you that 2 of the gamecubes 5 best games are remakes, but the wii's ****y controls prevent ports and remakes from ever being good on the wii so that doesn't really help matters.

Mario Galaxy 1
Mario Galaxy 2
Brawl
Sonic Colors
Donkey Kong Country Returns
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Okami Wii
RE4 Wii
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Twilight Princess

Since we're allowing remakes and ports here (RE4 particularly completely rebuffs the idea that ports and remakes could ever be good in the Wii).

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oh right I forgot you won't give anything I say any credit because nobody who disagrees with you is right

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brawl is a terrible game
really, sonic colors?
DKCR was ruined by waggle controls
haven't played NSMBWii much
okami wii was ruined by waggle controls, saying this doesn't even do it justice, the wii port was honestly OFFENSIVE to me
didn't play enough of the wii version of RE4 to say
metroid prime trilogy is ruined by controls
twilight princess is slightly inferior to the gamecube version but manages to be the one port that isn't outright destroyed, so I'll give it that

(And yes, really, Sonic Colors. Fantastic game that everyone who HASN'T played it wants to write off because of silly "LOL 3-D Sonic" stuff)

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I almost agreed with you on TP :/

just really hard for the system to have any good games when developers constantly try to ram bad motion controls down your throat, they're not as accurate and responsive as buttons and sticks, it's that simple.

You don't have to use motion controls for Sonic Colors. It's GameCube compatible.

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the one thing I do have to say about brawl though is that although it's wrought...a lot bad game design, you can set up a pretty decent no waggle wiichuk control scheme with it, so it's actually one of the few games that shows the wii remote off without motion controls and I have to say it's good that way. the modularity of it giving your hands freedom of movement is great, and its analog stick is actually a bit better than the gamecubes IMO, just too many games use waggle where it really has no business being