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KingButz 09/16/11 6:02:00 PM #51: |
Jesus Rand produces a mile wide wall of flames that destroys everything in its path. Callandor created an attack that would automatically seek out the enemy and reduced them to ash(or something like that). Rand's attacks don't require any physical gestures or incantations, giving him a huge speed advantage.
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Chrono1219 09/16/11 6:03:00 PM #52: |
He means "lol just finish off all the horocrux with a nuke"
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GenesisTwilight 09/16/11 6:07:00 PM #54: |
Yeah, if Voldemort is reduced to state like he was in the first Harry Potter book, I'd consider him defeated, horcruxes be damned.
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Kibago 09/16/11 6:15:00 PM #55: |
Voldemort - the strategy seems more straightforward to me. Apparition spam + Avada Kedavra is logical for him to pick and it would work. he doesn't need to do anything else (and if he did, he's not winning anyway)
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Pokewars 09/16/11 6:27:00 PM #56: |
Rand al'Thor
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Theon_Greyjoy 09/16/11 6:33:00 PM #57: |
Rand al'Thor pretty easily. Is power is much more impressive.
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red sox 777 09/16/11 6:44:00 PM #59: |
Rand al'Thor
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BlackMetalex 09/16/11 6:45:00 PM #60: |
going with Rand al'Thor I buy Avada Kedavra able to be blocked by his shields and it can easily be dodged, but I don't see how Voldemort can handle Rand al'Thor's offense.
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Chrono1219 09/16/11 6:48:00 PM #61: |
From: Ed Bellis | #258 Are these like literal physical shields? Also, what speed can he do this at? Can he do it fast enough where he can counter Voldermorts teleportation and mind reading? -- Chrono1219 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 6:49:00 PM #62: |
meh the way I see it Voldy could dodge Rand's shenanigans. Cause if people are going by this "good" Rand he won't be spamming Balefire <shrug> (or will he?)
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red sox 777 09/16/11 6:52:00 PM #63: |
The most common thing that happens in Wheel of Time in a duel between two channelers is that the stronger one will cut off the weaker one from the Source, rendering them unable to use magic. It's only when the channelers are close enough in strength that neither is able to cut off the other, or it's a large battle where you want to use area of effect attacks, or it's a surprise attack or something of the sort, that you see much in the way of actual battle weaves.
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Chrono1219 09/16/11 6:56:00 PM #64: |
That seems to ruin the "neutral ground"
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Jeff Zero 09/16/11 7:00:00 PM #65: |
Rand.
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red sox 777 09/16/11 7:03:00 PM #66: |
It doesn't impact the area, it's a normal weave targeted at the other channeler. It just happens to be one of the fastest weaves you can cast. And as it does no harm to the other person (unless you choose to then inflict harm on them now that they are utterly at your mercy), so all forms of Rand would have no compunction about opening with it. It's like expelliarmus, but faster.
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 7:04:00 PM #67: |
well we are all going for there 1 hit KO **** lets mix it up a bit for more arguments / possible alternatives
How tanky is Rand for example? couldn't Voldy use stupify / freeze / shadow choke to stop Rand for a bit to Avada Kadavra his ass? -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 7:07:00 PM #68: |
or even use some of his other curses?
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red sox 777 09/16/11 7:10:00 PM #69: |
Rand can probably block anything Voldemort can throw at him except Avada Kedavra. He's not very tanky though, if he were to get hit (which he probably would not).
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Jeff Zero 09/16/11 7:11:00 PM #70: |
Oh, and for the record whenever I come in here and just type out a quick response on who I'm voting for, and I think Kanzar knows this, but what I'm doing is waiting for most of the match to read everyone's posts because I'm unfamiliar with one or both of the competitors. In this case I waited a while for Voldemort's case (I know all about Rand) but ultimately it fell short for me.
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 7:12:00 PM #71: |
its just I don't know how he would block something like stupify (meh just going by movies haven't read all the books) where it doesn't seem to make a physical move its just point and BAM your frozen for a few seconds
plus HP has a ton of other magic shenanigans that don't just go to injury (transformation etc) <shrug> -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chrono1219 09/16/11 7:13:00 PM #72: |
From: Pirateking2000 | #307 Because it's pretty much certain that voldermort will open with either AK or Teleport and then AK depending on what he mind reads. -- Chrono1219 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 7:15:00 PM #73: |
I know just saying that it could mix **** up (like how you said some move reading he could go)
(oh this guy is gonna go super fast this way lemme freeze him for a second and then blast him) like in the movie voldy didn't just spam AK (he was doing some other stuff and some shadow restraint move) or something. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 09/16/11 7:19:00 PM #74: |
its just I don't know how he would block something like stupify (meh just going by movies haven't read all the books) where it doesn't seem to make a physical move its just point and BAM your frozen for a few seconds
Well, there's an equivalent to stupefy in Wheel of Time (in that it has the same effect), which is to bind/freeze the opponent with air, and Rand would just cut that weave apart pretty effortlessly. The other thing is that Rand can cast multiple spells simultaneously, whereas I believe HP wizards can only do one at a time. They can fire off spells in rapid succession, but can't actually perform multiple spells at the same time. -- 90s games > 00s games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 7:20:00 PM #75: |
mmk dunno much about wheel of time shenanigans except <anime rage face> Baaaaaaaaaaaaaalllleeeeefiiiiiiirrrre
but in any case I think Voldy's move read that people are talking about could give him the edge to get Rand. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sceptilesolarbeam 09/16/11 7:24:00 PM #76: |
Rand
Voldemort just isn't all that strong, and he's unlikely to be able to successfully cheapshot Rand either. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 7:28:00 PM #77: |
also still would like to know how much of a tank Rand is (guess its won't help much for this match due to AK etc)
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red sox 777 09/16/11 7:29:00 PM #78: |
Rand couldn't tank too much that actually hit him. But he has very strong shields and is very fast, so actually hitting him is the hard part.
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DeathChicken 09/16/11 7:30:00 PM #79: |
Voldemort is stupidly strong. Again, fighting Dumbledore, and three high end wizards at once effortlessly. The only reasons he ever really loses is due to Harry having all sorts of deus ex plot devices to backfire his AK/make his wand explode/etc
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 7:30:00 PM #80: |
mmk
Just wondering if the base Expelliarmus (I probably spelled that wrong) could send him flying back with blunt force or something <shrug> -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sceptilesolarbeam 09/16/11 7:31:00 PM #81: |
DeathChicken posted...
Voldemort is stupidly strong. Again, fighting Dumbledore, and three high end wizards at once effortlessly. The only reasons he ever really loses is due to Harry having all sorts of deus ex plot devices to backfire his AK/make his wand explode/etc Oh, I'm not denying he's strong within his series, but Rand is just far stronger in terms of pure magical ability. He completely obliterates 1000s of enemies in a matter of seconds. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 09/16/11 7:33:00 PM #82: |
do note 'very fast' on rand is relative and still looking under sound speed for movement/reflexes.
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Wanglicious 09/16/11 7:36:00 PM #84: |
shields aren't physical, no.
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Sceptilesolarbeam 09/16/11 7:37:00 PM #85: |
Oh, and Rand should be able to create defenses pretty much instantly. Unless he's doing something really flashy, and nothing actually occurs to me, his spells are all nigh-instantaneous by where we are in the story.
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 7:38:00 PM #86: |
hahaha I'm liking this match
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todbot1 09/16/11 7:45:00 PM #87: |
Weird... I guess Voldemort.
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 7:50:00 PM #88: |
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GANON1025 09/16/11 7:52:00 PM #89: |
Rand
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WickIebee 09/16/11 7:56:00 PM #90: |
I should come in here again... don't forget, Avada Kadavra isn't Voldemort's only spell, if he misses too much, he also has Crucio and Imperio, which Imperio would render Rand useless, and then possibly use a hit right on himself
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 8:00:00 PM #91: |
^ Yeah was wondering how Voldy's other curse shenanigans would do as well.
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Sceptilesolarbeam 09/16/11 8:02:00 PM #92: |
WickIebee posted...
I should come in here again... don't forget, Avada Kadavra isn't Voldemort's only spell, if he misses too much, he also has Crucio and Imperio, which Imperio would render Rand useless, and then possibly use a hit right on himself I don't think Imperio would work. Not only is mental defense as common as physical defense (or commoner), but Rand also has Lews Therin in there too. Possessing him would be difficult. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 09/16/11 8:29:00 PM #93: |
From: red sox 777 | #078 If his shields are magic though they probably don't work, since AK's whole thing is that it will go through any sort of magical protection to hit its target, so blocking it requires making it hit physical objects instead (or getting out of the way, which is hard to judge because its speed is kind of however fast the plot wants it to be) -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 09/16/11 8:30:00 PM #94: |
Rand why is this debated. This is the definition of a stomp.
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KanzarisKelshen 09/16/11 8:33:00 PM #95: |
From: KamikazePotato | #094 'Voldemort avaad kedavara to win lol' -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sceptilesolarbeam 09/16/11 8:42:00 PM #96: |
Is Voldemort's magic considered functionally equivalent to channeling?
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WickIebee 09/16/11 9:12:00 PM #97: |
Also, might as well add... for all these speeds, it wouldn't matter, considering Point Blank apparition + the idea that he doesn't need to voice his spells... wouldn't exactly leave any room to dodge...
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Panthera 09/16/11 9:16:00 PM #98: |
Has anyone actually ever used Avada Kedavra non-verbally? Using spells without the incantation is supposed to be both vastly more difficult and result in a much weaker spell, I'd be inclined to question the possibility of it unless I'm forgetting a case of someone proving it could be done. I feel like he was still saying it during his fight with Dumbledore (especially since non-verbal spells didn't become a thing the books made note of until book 6 IIRC)
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Pirateking2000 09/16/11 9:17:00 PM #99: |
^ I think Voldemort does it doesn't he?
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