Board 8 > So.. what's the best leveling map in Disgaea 4?

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Mt. Ordeal has been pretty bad so far though admittedly I only got 2 maps unlocked (I'm not even done with the story so I can't beat map 2), I assume it's map 3? It's always map 3.

Just to make sure so I get it open asap and start training seriously.

Ah also, is Flonne DLC? I'm at the Final Chapter and she just appears so I assume she'll be playable someday but she could totally be DLC too.

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MT Ordeals 4 and 9-4 I think

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"There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama

Oh and game is pretty awesome so far, but like usual the main story is too easy if you just power level one character. My Fuka One Shot pretty much everything.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Also I was about the beat the game when my goddamn roommate asked me to free the TV so he could watch Glee.

****ing Glee.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Well since I ordered Disgaea 4 off of the NIS store they sent me a voucher code for Flonne DLC....so yes, she is.

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From: WhiteLens | #005
Well since I ordered Disgaea 4 off of the NIS store they sent me a voucher code for Flonne DLC

I suppose that'll teach me not to buy their games anywhere else from now on.

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Goddamnit, I started a new game + and I can't get the Cave of Ordeal to open again and I'm too weak to persuade the Senate by force.

I ****in hate this part of the game, like when you're weak and there's not a single good place to train so you can't get stronger quickly.

Guh, I wish there was a magic trick to get a level 1000 character instantly so I wouldn't have to pass bills the hard way.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

FFFFF. Mt. Ordeal 3 is impossibul !

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

yeah it sucks =/

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"There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make **** up to cover their ass." - Hazama

So uhhh.. how the hell do I get more patterns for my spells? And how the hell do I get more range?

Leveling skills up by use doesn't seem to do anything anymore.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

*was about to suggest leveling up the skills*

... uhh.. staff mastery level up?

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There's no masteries in Disgaea 4.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

There aren't anymore?

Well, maxing it out was always a hassle.

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Yeah but I preferred it that way since it seems there's no way to get an insane range with spells.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

To beat Ordeals 3:
Have Valvatorez be at least around 200, equipped Absorption evility, a good bow, and have his last skill be decently upgraded. I beat it at that level, but I almost got one-shotted a few times, so eh >_> also you need a good healer or two, but their level doesn't matter too terribly much as long as they can heal decently.
1) You're gonna try to one hit kill all the slimes at the beginning with aforementioned skill; use four or five guys to throw them all in range of the base panel and have Val own them from there. If some still live, use everyone else as meatshields and let Val get as many last hits as possible.
2) Once the slimes are gone, equip the bow and start sniping the ghouls. You can at least take out one, but after that, you're gonna need someone to chuck you over to them. Attack from maximum range; like half of them won't even move, and you should be building up some decent defense by now.
3) After they're dead as well, chuck over your healers. Advance through the Ally Move Damage zone slowly, healing everything (no silence on this grid!), and start baiting the Mothmen and stripper demons one by one. Mothmen can put you to sleep but that's not really much of a problem since you can Espoir with healers, but the stripper demons can do some serious damage if they get off the silence grid; I got the closest to dying here. Move one square at a time and you should only get one at a time, though, and rememeber; if you're on the ally move damage grid, you can Tyrant them for a usual one hit kill. Heal and buff in between monsters.
4) After they're all dead, move up slowly until you're just out of range of the dragon. Use your healer to pick up Val, chuck him as far as you can, and Val should be able to one shot the dragon easily by now with all his absorbed stats. If not, use the healer(s) as bait or something for a turn or two.

It takes a while, but it's mostly safe!

With Giant Magichange, I was getting four monsters up from 1 to like 300 in one fight, so it's definitely worth it imo.

Oh yeah, if you haven't yet, reincarnate one of your generics into a bouncer and try to unlock the 4th tier bouncer. They learn Big Bang, which hits exactly every single enemy on Ordeals 4. You can train with Desco too, but she can't hit two of the enemies on turn one.

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

My Valvatorez is level 14, crap.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

oh and I hate Axes, my Fuka is level 400 but because she uses Axes she's stuck with crappy aoes and Swords don't seem to have Winged Slayer anymore.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Alright, done with Mt.3, now I have to figure out how to get a character able to one hit kill those gargoyles.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

And now I can't beat Mt.4 gaaaaaaaaaah !

Thought I would finally be able to grind but noooo, tons of mob who hit for 7k a pop while I can't OS them ._.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Axes have f***ing evil single-target damage very early on, imo. Don't really like them now either though.

What I did was powerlevel Giant Desco and let a human character take out the last two guys. Giant Yog Sothoth, then next turn magichange with the human + Martial Transformer usually let a human get at least one kill. Which is huge when the enemy's level 400+ and on a double experience grid.

Oh, and if your Desco can't one shot them, GET MOAR BEASTMASTERS. It's like +50% attack for every one standing by her or something crazy like that, thanks to her and beastmasters evilities.

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

My Desco isn't leveled at all D:

And I don't have the evil symbol to do giant fusions.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Oh snap, son. Seems like you never learned about Giant Desco spammage. She's the easiest character to powerlevel with pre-O4.

Level her up to where she gets Yog Sothoth -> fuse any monster into her -> murder 9-4 with her 3x5 AoE until it doesn't give decent experience anymore. Then spam some beastmasters and you should easily be able to take out O4 with her, even if she's way underlevelled.



She's the reason I had a Prinny God before even getting O4. <_<

(also random fact: level 99 enemies give as much experience as about level 380 enemies do to the f***ed up way the experience curve is, so yeah)

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

But I can't fuse monsters !

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

I never grind on map 9-4 because I thought it would still be tons of Androids coming from portals.. if I knew !

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

But I thought that was unlocked at the beginning! I thought the ones you had to unlock were Giant Magichange and Dual Magichange D:

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

I don't know, I stuck 2 monsters next to one another and the fusion command never appeared.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Make sure the space around them is completely free. They take up five squares, like in a cross formation, and if any of the squares aren't empty (disregarding the monster you're fusion-ing into the main monster obv), it won't give you the option.

Which means a lot of cramped maps you can't even use Fusion, argh.

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

Mkay, 9-4 spawns mob if you can't kill all of the mushrooms in one turn.

Goddamnit it's like they're forcing us to use fusions, I hate this.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Well, it kinda makes sense that if you're gonna want huge power and gigantic attack ranges, you've gotta use up another two to four monsters!

Besides, the experience isn't split between fusion and magichanged monsters, everyone gets the base amount. So it's like levelling a bunch of characters at once!

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

Still, I always hated monsters in Disgaea, I don't want to use them.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

They're a million times better in this game. Seriously, I never touched a single monster in 1 or 2, but now almost my entire team is made up of them. Even if you enjoy using humans, there's really no downside to magichanging, usually.

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

Still, I don't like the fact that grinding is centered around certain character.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

It's not. Grinding is centered around using both humans and monsters, and iirc, there are more monster classes than human classes so it's definitely not focusing on a certain character.

The past games focused almost completely on humans. This game's giving monsters an almost equally important role while still letting you decide if you want to focus on humans or monsters. Like humans more? Magichange for stat boots and a few extra moves. Like monsters more? Fusion for better attacks.

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

Alright so I tried 9-4 and even if I kill everything in one hit with Desco the androids still spawn, what's up with that.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Enemies spawn when you hit End Turn, so just hit Execute.

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

Yeah I figured it out, would've made those maps easier if I had been aware of it before ._.

Also I don't like the Succubus voice, too low.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Almost typed it before but it didn't send ;_; argh college internet

But really, just grind enough to where you can beat O4 then pull out all the stops (buffs, craploads of beastmasters, etc) to beat O4 one. After that, you'll gain a few hundred levels and it'll be cake. I was training off rank 20 (about level 2000 enemies) within two hours, I think.

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

Well Desco's about level 500 atm.. it goes fast but 2 hours to beat level 2000 stuff is a bit of a strech I'd say !

And I can't make beastmasters yet, don't know the requirement.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

And I think I leveled Yog Sogoth too much.. it does 60k dmg but I can only use it once.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Well, to compensate, fight as strong enemies as you can to maximize experience, because iirc there's no way to delevel a skill >_> just keep levelling Desco and that amount of SP won't be too bad in the long run.

And I almost immediately started using Bouncers with Big Bang when I got O4, it's a little faster that way. I was beating 2000~ enemies at around level... 1100 I think? That was with dual giant magichange though, so it was actually 5 level 1100s.

Btw, dunno if you already knew, but you can disable all animations. Makes a map take like 25 seconds!

Beastmaster needs level 15 warrior and valkyrie to unlock, btw. Should be really easy postgame if you stick someone in the training symbol. It's really worth it if you're powerlevelling Desco because they have a skill that increases mana and exp gains by +50% that they get immediately.

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

Being level 900+ isn't enough to pass bill it seems !

I want an Androiiiiiiiiiid !

Why is it at -10% chance to pass, it's just a class !

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Some bills are meant to be forced, I know dual magichange is that way! Never budged from 1%. Desco ate everyone alive at level 1500~, though.

Just... make sure you don't make my mistake and forget to pass Weakest Enemies before forcing the bill ;__;

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

There passed.. and Androids are crappy as hell, 80% Aptidude everywhere? The hell, I thought they were the uber class !

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

It's possible to max out all your aptitudes at 300% for all characters, you just have to do a looooot of chara world. I think Androids kick ass in some other way but take a lot more effort.

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"Duel audio? You mean like rap battles?" - termina_rzident
KrahenProphet and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum.

Get the later tiers.

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agesboy posted...
It's possible to max out all your aptitudes at 300% for all characters, you just have to do a looooot of chara world. I think Androids kick ass in some other way but take a lot more effort.

Alright, I'll get one because they look awesome.

Also is it's possible to totally gimp a character? I know you can gimp equipment but I hope you can't screw up with characters.

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bumpitty.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Well stat gains are randomized (if it's the same as Disgaea 1 and 2), and base stats gain some random bonus when a character is created/reincarnated, which also determines stat gains. Not really that important though, and way too much of a hassle to keep track.

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So uh.. for giant magichange so I can Big Bang 9-4, do I need to level up the monsters or just the humanoid?

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY

Also what's the best way to get Big Bang on an Android? I think they can't learn it themselves.

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Best LPer ever, Gix ! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt5YKmP7ecY