Board 8 > Bacon: 'Wouldn't really call them "historical characters" [Barkley] [ARG]

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WazzupGenius00
09/26/11 3:21:00 PM
#52:


Oh yeah, definitely keeping the nomination in anyway

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/26/11 3:23:00 PM
#53:


This is totally awful. Sure, it would probably become a /b/ rallying point, but it's not often that GameFAQs gets an entry with that type of legitimate joke power. This really could be the second coming of L-Block, only more awesome because these are actually characters.

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paperwarior
09/26/11 3:23:00 PM
#54:


Picking and choosing characters based on thinking others will be "better". What a douche.

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FateStayAlbion
09/26/11 3:23:00 PM
#55:


I wonder what this means for Albert Einstein/Adolf Hitler. Obviously that has the possibility of having a 4chan rally, but it does fit the historical character rule.

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paperwarior
09/26/11 3:25:00 PM
#56:


Also, he doesn't know what "historical" means.

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MonkClive0
09/26/11 3:25:00 PM
#57:


Yeah, I'm keeping my nomination in too, maybe Bacon will change his mind on turning this contest into the new 9/11

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Surskit
09/26/11 3:30:00 PM
#58:


I can't wait for all those "better" entries that absolutely will not be fodder.

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Dr_Football
09/26/11 3:31:00 PM
#59:


I'd just like to add, lol rallying for 2 sports guys on gamefaqs

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Chrono1219
09/26/11 3:31:00 PM
#60:


Can respect go below 0?

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/26/11 3:31:00 PM
#61:


Come on. Who's he worried about it tweaking? All of the "contests are serious business" folks are right here on Board 8, and we all seem to be behind the nomination. I wonder what type of reverse psychology would have to be employed to convince 4chan to bring their rallying to the nomination phase; it might be the best option if they agree that this is awesome.

Not that it will matter in the end, because there still isn't any proof that 4chan has ever really meaningfully affected a GameFAQs Contest Battle. First-round second-place finishers in the lol4ways, sure, but L-Block was a collective effort by the whole internet.

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FateStayAlbion
09/26/11 3:32:00 PM
#62:


TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Not that it will matter in the end, because there still isn't any proof that 4chan has ever really meaningfully affected a GameFAQs Contest Battle. First-round second-place finishers in the lol4ways, sure, but L-Block was a collective effort by the whole internet.

/v/ lead the rallies for L Block a few rounds in.

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/26/11 3:33:00 PM
#63:


Dr_Football posted...
I'd just like to add, lol rallying for 2 sports guys on gamefaqs

What are you talking about? This is RPGFAQs, and we're rallying for two characters from the great RPG Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden.

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/26/11 3:36:00 PM
#64:


FateStayAlbion posted...
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Not that it will matter in the end, because there still isn't any proof that 4chan has ever really meaningfully affected a GameFAQs Contest Battle. First-round second-place finishers in the lol4ways, sure, but L-Block was a collective effort by the whole internet.

/v/ lead the rallies for L Block a few rounds in.


Perhaps, but we all agree that by the end, it was far beyond their scope. I'll grant that maybe they helped out for Round 3, though, and maybe Round 2. Round 1 was lucky placement, and Round 2 had SFF between the two characters that were knocked out.

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FFaddict1313
09/26/11 3:41:00 PM
#65:


Goose: Modern History isn't history.

Goose: Joke contestants lead to many problems are generally bad, despite them having lead to an amazing contest and plenty of other amazing moments.

"oh"

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TheCodeisBosco
09/26/11 3:43:00 PM
#66:


Haguile posted...
From: TheCodeisBosco | Posted: 9/26/2011 6:18:33 PM | #048
Dang! That sucks.

Now more than ever, I really hope a joke rivalry wins, like Left/Right Paddle or something. A joke contest deserves a joke winner.
If he didn't let this in, I doubt he'd accept Left/Right Paddle.


If Bacon's going to discount every joke rivalry because the GameSpot debacle... SMH. This contest would literally be worthless in that case, unless Mario/Sonic somehow makes the bracket.

Surskit posted...
I can't wait for all those "better" entries that absolutely will not be fodder.

No kidding. I'm going to laugh so hard when turbofodder like Raziel/Kain makes the bracket instead.

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Dauntless Hunter
09/26/11 3:44:00 PM
#67:


From: TheCodeisBosco | #066
No kidding. I'm going to laugh so hard when turbofodder like Raziel/Kain makes the bracket instead.


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FateStayAlbion
09/26/11 3:46:00 PM
#68:


I think an underrated value of these joke characters is making a bracket. You can either take a gamble and have a joke character go far, or go out round 1, and that can separate the good brackets from the bad ones. As it is, we'll just have cookie cutter brackets if not for joke characters

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LOLContests
09/26/11 3:47:00 PM
#69:


lol sports.

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transience
09/26/11 3:48:00 PM
#70:


eh, people aren't nominating Barkley and Jordan because of their characterization in Barkley Gaiden. they're doing it because Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan would be a good joke. seems pretty defensible to not allow them.

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FateStayAlbion
09/26/11 3:50:00 PM
#71:


transience posted...
eh, people aren't nominating Barkley and Jordan because of their characterization in Barkley Gaiden. they're doing it because Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan would be a good joke. seems pretty defensible to not allow them.

How dare people try to have fun with the contest.

I can understand worrying about 4chan rallies, but limiting joke characters just because they're a not 100% legit characters is pretty lame.

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Biolizard28
09/26/11 3:51:00 PM
#72:


I'm going to change all of my nominations to Barkley/Jordan in protest.

F*** your contest, if this were about blocks or paddles, you'd be all for it, nerd.

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The Raven 2
09/26/11 3:51:00 PM
#73:


Apparently Bacon has forgotten about the appearances of L-Block, Missingno, and Master Hand. Barkley/Jordan would be more legit than all three of those

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Leebo86
09/26/11 3:51:00 PM
#74:


I like Right Paddle/Left Paddle. I never really liked Barkley/Jordan as a nomination.

*shrugs*

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LOLContests
09/26/11 3:51:00 PM
#75:


If you allowed characters in from one fan game, what's to stop someone from just making a game to get any real life person in?

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redrocket
09/26/11 3:52:00 PM
#76:


The Raven 2 posted...
Apparently Bacon has forgotten about the appearances of L-Block, Missingno, and Master Hand. Barkley/Jordan would be more legit than all three of those

Also more legitimate that Weighted Companion Cube and Sandbag.

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Biolizard28
09/26/11 3:52:00 PM
#77:


From: LOLContests | #075
If you allowed characters in from one fan game, what's to stop someone from just making a game to get any real life person in?


It's in the f***ing database of this website.

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MonkClive0
09/26/11 3:53:00 PM
#78:


transience posted...
eh, people aren't nominating Barkley and Jordan because of their characterization in Barkley Gaiden. they're doing it because Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan would be a good joke. seems pretty defensible to not allow them.

Their characterization in Barkley Gaiden is humorous though

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FFaddict1313
09/26/11 3:53:00 PM
#79:


Albion and Bosco are right. If we don't get the "jokes", we get a bunch of fodder instead. Yeah, people might be happy to see their favorite fodder get in, but guess what? People love seeing their favorite "jokes" get in - and probably much moreso than the people happy about their fodder since there's a much bigger communal celebration aspect to it.

The "jokes" pretty much also have an infinitely higher chance to do well in the contest. If a fodder character wins a round, they won against fodder that's worse than them. But, well, L-Block, etc, etc, etc

Plus, really, "joke character" is horribly arbitrary. Is Captain Qwark a joke character? What about Doc Louis? Epona? Tingle? It just comes down to Goose choosing who he doesn't want in, as opposed to, you know, having some f***ing user NOMINATIONS.

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SuperAngelo128
09/26/11 3:53:00 PM
#80:


im with transience

and I nomiated the Barkley/Jordan duo

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KamikazePotato
09/26/11 3:54:00 PM
#81:


transience posted...
eh, people aren't nominating Barkley and Jordan because of their characterization in Barkley Gaiden. they're doing it because Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan would be a good joke. seems pretty defensible to not allow them.

L-Block
Mudkip


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transience
09/26/11 3:55:00 PM
#82:


he's already stated his goal is to not let that happen again - not sure what the reason for listing them is..?

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redrocket
09/26/11 3:55:00 PM
#83:


SuperAngelo128 posted...
im with transience

and I nomiated the Barkley/Jordan duo


If you are with Tranny, I hope your position is to ban all joke nominations for all contests going forward.

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FFaddict1313
09/26/11 3:55:00 PM
#84:


tranny clearly hasn't played Barkley: Shut Up and Jam Gaiden: Chapter 1 of the Hoopz Barkley SaGa.

Because anyone who has is very serious about this nomination.

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Leebo86
09/26/11 3:55:00 PM
#85:


transience posted...
he's already stated his goal is to not let that happen again - not sure what the reason for listing them is..?

8 wrongs make a right, so will 9... maybe?

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FateStayAlbion
09/26/11 3:56:00 PM
#86:


transience posted...
he's already stated his goal is to not let that happen again - not sure what the reason for listing them is..?

And that makes zero sense. The L Block contest had the best votes of any contest and was the most enjoyable. The whole point of these contests is to draw hits, yet he wants to avoid the things that draw the most hits? No wonder Gamefaqs is dying as a site.

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transience
09/26/11 3:56:00 PM
#87:


you're right, I haven't

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/944722-barkley-shut-up-and-jam-gaiden-chapter-1-of-the/41143909

second oldest topic on the board aw yeah

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WazzupGenius00
09/26/11 3:57:00 PM
#88:


From: transience | #070
eh, people aren't nominating Barkley and Jordan because of their characterization in Barkley Gaiden. they're doing it because Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan would be a good joke.


I have to disagree, their feud/characterization in Gaiden is pretty funny and enjoyable.

Now the Einstein/Hitler nomination some are doing, that one I think fits what you're saying

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KamikazePotato
09/26/11 3:57:00 PM
#89:


Except it's BS. If 'Mudkip/Torchic' was a nomination, he would have easily accepted it. He probably accepts the Pong paddle and L-Block/Square-Block stuff, too.

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LOLContests
09/26/11 3:57:00 PM
#90:


I would much rather have low votals than get hits from intolerant pseudo-fascists like 4chan.

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transience
09/26/11 3:57:00 PM
#91:


oh I like it too, but let's face it - you're not trying to get the character in because you think it's some great rivalry. it's because it's a parody game.

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charmander6000
09/26/11 3:58:00 PM
#92:


If you need joke characters to spice things up you may want to retire from GameFAQs contests

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/26/11 3:58:00 PM
#93:


The Raven 2 posted...
Apparently Bacon has forgotten about the appearances of L-Block, Missingno, and Master Hand. Barkley/Jordan would be more legit than all three of those

You know, I actually was considering Master Hand/Tabuu as one of my nominations, though I decided not to do it. Of course, a lot of the planned backstory in the Subspace Emissary got cut, so Master Hand's appearance in there amounts to a mere cameo.

The idea of a character whose only previous appearance was in the Villains Contest coming back in the "Protagonist" role in a rivalry contest seems pretty awesome, though. And in that backstory, Master Hand was attempting to save Subspace from Tabuu, only Tabuu won and Master Hand became his puppet. So that would totally work. And Master Hand still did appear in the game, even though the information that determines why this is a valid rivalry is from supplementary materials.

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ExThaNemesis
09/26/11 3:59:00 PM
#94:


Bacon being a joke what else is new.

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FateStayAlbion
09/26/11 3:59:00 PM
#95:


LOLContests posted...
I would much rather have low votals than get hits from intolerant pseudo-fascists like 4chan.

You might, but the advertisers don't care where the hits are coming from, and thats how a website like this survives.

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KamikazePotato
09/26/11 4:00:00 PM
#96:


If you can look me straight in the eye and tell me that the rivalry presented in SUAJG and only that game, not considering any other factor, is a less worthy rivalry than all of the absolutely generic and asinine s*** that is going to get into the contest then you are a liar.

Yes, they would have gotten outside votes based on other factors, but why should that matter? Everything does. Vivi isn't a midcarder because FF9 is strong game.

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LOLContests
09/26/11 4:00:00 PM
#97:


Master Hand was not a joke character! Nobody at the time implied they were voting for it because "lol it's a glove. They were voting because they really liked Smash Bros. That was the consensus at the time, and It's just revisionist history to claim otherwise.

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charmander6000
09/26/11 4:01:00 PM
#98:


The L Block contest had the best votes of any contest and was the most enjoyable.

A) Contest would've had the best votes regardless of L-Block
B) Due to the contest being something new and fresh it was already going to become enjoyable.

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Biolizard28
09/26/11 4:01:00 PM
#99:


The point here is that Bacon is clearly trying to argue semantics when he had no issues with bending the rules to allow puzzle pieces into a character battle. It's like he's okay with one type of joke, but not another, and he ultimately decides what makes the bracket, stifling our creativity.

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KamikazePotato
09/26/11 4:01:00 PM
#100:


And really, if Bacon didn't want this to happen, he shouldn't have opened the door. He made two new rules and has shot down several suggestions within the legal confines of those rules just because. He might as well have just said 'oh and you can nominate Dracula now' and left it at that.

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09/26/11 4:01:00 PM
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