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_stingers_
09/30/11 2:49:00 PM
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http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=311729

thats cool!

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PartOfYourWorld
09/30/11 2:50:00 PM
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Is Snake expected to dominate now?

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Revenus
09/30/11 2:51:00 PM
#3:


people have professional brawl tournaments?




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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 2:51:00 PM
#4:


The era of Snake is at hand

And eventually he will be banned as well

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Pirateking2000
09/30/11 2:51:00 PM
#5:


Sonic is still top tier

"Your too slow"

=P

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whatisurnameplz
09/30/11 2:52:00 PM
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About time!

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Red Shifter
09/30/11 2:52:00 PM
#7:


So the current top tier character in a Nintendo game is a Sony character. Great.

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Liquid Wind
09/30/11 2:53:00 PM
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Red Shifter posted...
So the current top tier character in a Nintendo game is a Sony character. Great.

diddy kong is better than snake.

brawl is a bad game though who cares
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Red Shifter
09/30/11 2:54:00 PM
#9:


Brawl is an awesome game. You can make IWBTG-style levels and wall jump off of spike objects to try and get to the finish.

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Haguile
09/30/11 3:00:00 PM
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What's the current tier list? I don't play competitively so I honestly got no idea.

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GranzonEx
09/30/11 3:02:00 PM
#11:


Banning a character in a party game. Why?

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_stingers_
09/30/11 3:02:00 PM
#12:


the current tier list is: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=306431

snake isn't really expected to dominate...though he'll def. still be top.
it's basically a big fight for first between diddy, snake, marth, and falco now.

the thing about the old tier list is, it's almost literally just a ranking of each chars matchup vs. Meta knight lol. so with meta knight gone, the tier list will change up completely. you cant just remove mk and go down and expect it to be the same, cuz it's gonna change a lot.

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CherryCokes
09/30/11 3:04:00 PM
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i am glad that my initial predictions that Diddy, Olimar and Wario would be excellent

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Viviff
09/30/11 3:09:00 PM
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The tier list won't change much at all, except D3 jumping a bit in placement and usage. This whole thing is so dumb and I've been screaming at people online for the past hour. As if people didn't laugh at our community already, now we just look super-scrubby and dumb, and I guarantee this actually drops tournament attendance after 3 months. No one ever says "I'm not going to the tournament today, I don't want to play against MK". They show up, lose to him, hate it, b**** about it, but show up anyway. MK players and people who think it's completely asinine to ban him will stop going to events run by The Empire (Unity rules) and no new players will come in. It's the dumbest thing they could of done, and sure enough, Chancellor Zealot did it.

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_stingers_
09/30/11 3:10:00 PM
#15:


you're just salty you cant get free wins with your broken character anymore.
have fun with bowser again ;)
just like the old days!

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Blairville
09/30/11 3:17:00 PM
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The smash community is just salty that Sakurai bodied them. Seriously, Brawl was expertly crafted to expose the community for how bad they are, and I love it.

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_stingers_
09/30/11 3:21:00 PM
#17:


yes, sakurai is a very smart man, im sure he planned all of this =p

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FFDragon
09/30/11 3:23:00 PM
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you must recover

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Viviff
09/30/11 3:23:00 PM
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And you're just thrilled because you're bad and have one less thing to worry about in your march to 3rd place at some local.

And btw, PacNW never has, or never will use Unity, so this actually does absolutely nothing to me. I was #1 in Oregon with Wolf before I switched anyway.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/30/11 3:26:00 PM
#20:


Brawl was expertly crafted to expose the community for how bad they are, and I love it.

So how bout those of us who didnt care about tourney****ots and just wanted more good smash, and we ended up with....this.

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SpeedYoshi
09/30/11 3:27:00 PM
#21:


again?

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mcflubbin
09/30/11 3:31:00 PM
#22:


I've never really understood, what exactly makes Diddy Kong top tier?

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WazzupGenius00
09/30/11 3:31:00 PM
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From: Red Shifter | #007
So the current top tier character in a Nintendo game is a Sony character. Great.


Uh

Since when is Snake a Sony character

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/30/11 3:32:00 PM
#24:


mcflubbin posted...
I've never really understood, what exactly makes Diddy Kong top tier?

Absuing the hell out of that moronic trip physics.

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_stingers_
09/30/11 3:34:00 PM
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From: Viviff | #019
And you're just thrilled because you're bad and have one less thing to worry about in your march to 3rd place at some local.

And btw, PacNW never has, or never will use Unity, so this actually does absolutely nothing to me. I was #1 in Oregon with Wolf before I switched anyway.


you can stay salty, imma be livin it up with my 3rd place winnings while you suck **** for cigar money on the streets. good luck with wolf man LOL

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Viviff
09/30/11 3:44:00 PM
#26:


Again, we don't use Unity, I'm free to continue dominating my entire state with MK. But congrats in advance next year when you do finally break through and snag that 3rd place. Do something special for you afterwards with your 3rd place winnings AKA your entry fee back minus Venue.

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ShatteredElysium
09/30/11 3:53:00 PM
#27:


Christ, anyone could believe you two were 10 by the way you were acting.

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WazzupGenius00
09/30/11 3:54:00 PM
#28:


^pretty representative of the Brawl community tbqh

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Biolizard28
09/30/11 3:55:00 PM
#29:


Viviff, stingers obviously isn't in an informative mood, so I'll ask you.

How is banning Meta Knight community destroying?

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Icon Tang
09/30/11 3:57:00 PM
#30:


From: ShatteredElysium | #027
Christ, anyone could believe you two were 10 by the way you were acting.


or by who they're apparently doing


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_stingers_
09/30/11 3:58:00 PM
#31:


i've done nothing but inform =[
also me and viviff are just playing around, smh -,-

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Biolizard28
09/30/11 4:01:00 PM
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Actually, come to think of it, why is he even being banned at all?

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metroid composite
09/30/11 4:02:00 PM
#33:


Biolizard28 posted...
Viviff, stingers obviously isn't in an informative mood, so I'll ask you.

How is banning Meta Knight community destroying?


Seems pretty straightforward to me:

Some people will quit over it.
Brawl is long past the point in its life when it was particularly relevant (I'm pretty sure it's no longer being played at MLG these days, and people who were sick of metaknight stopped playing so long ago that they're completely out of practice now) so it's not likely to attract new players with this change.

Losing players + not gaining any players = smaller community.

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Biolizard28
09/30/11 4:06:00 PM
#34:


Yeah, I was a bit confused after reading your previous post, but that makes sense.

Although I don't think people will quit because they can't pick Meta Knight. If anything they'll quit because of the principle of the thing.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/30/11 4:07:00 PM
#35:


Wait a seconds, whats this Im hearing about banning/limiting ledge grabbing?

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Viviff
09/30/11 4:07:00 PM
#36:


Firstly because it's done by a group that is more or less holding the community hostage by enforcing their rules, and if you don't use their ruleset your tournament cannot be featured on any of the major brawl sites.

For the actual ban itself, a lot of players will get turned off by a decision to ban a character that they don't think deserves to be banned and furthers the perception that our community is stupid/scrubby as compared to any other competitive fighter. It won't attract any new players, and will only alienate those who oppose the ban, and they'll stop attending tournaments that use this ruleset (which is a lot considering that again, they have a lot of the community by the short-ones by not featuring tournaments which is scary for smaller tournaments because they don't want to be ignored) so overall attendance will drop in the future.

Outside of Super-Turbo Akuma, I can't think of a banned fighting character, and we're going to be the laughing stock of the fighting community even more because of it. And since Brawl is towards the end of its life, a lot of players also think that this radical change is just too late and if you were going to do something it should have been done a lot sooner when it may have actually had an impact on the community in a good way, instead of the crappy ways I mentioned before.

The international Brawl scenes are also laughing at this decision, and when you look stupid to the majority of the Brawl community, you know it's bad. Someone in the thread said "You know s***'s real when Mexico is laughing at us." That right there is truefax.

So in the end we're somehow going to look even worse than before, and end up losing attendance, just so bad players can think they have a better chance of winning even though they don't, and then they'll realize it and this whole thing will finally look like what it is: the dumbest move in the history of competitive gaming.

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Biolizard28
09/30/11 4:08:00 PM
#37:


From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #035
Wait a seconds, whats this Im hearing about banning/limiting ledge grabbing?


50 edge grabs per match apparently, in order to prevent stalling like a weenie.

Which begs the question, what the hell are you supposed to do if you hit 50 because you're legitimately getting knocked off the stage? Are you not allowed to save your life?

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Viviff
09/30/11 4:09:00 PM
#38:


metroid composite posted...
Biolizard28 posted...
Viviff, stingers obviously isn't in an informative mood, so I'll ask you.

How is banning Meta Knight community destroying?

Seems pretty straightforward to me:

Some people will quit over it.
Brawl is long past the point in its life when it was particularly relevant (I'm pretty sure it's no longer being played at MLG these days, and people who were sick of metaknight stopped playing so long ago that they're completely out of practice now) so it's not likely to attract new players with this change.

Losing players + not gaining any players = smaller community.


Look at this! You're nowhere near the community and you can see the writing on the wall! This makes it even more amazing that this community can be this stupid.

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agesboy
09/30/11 4:09:00 PM
#39:


Banning a character that's been allowed for quite a few years just seems like a silly idea to me. <_<

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_stingers_
09/30/11 4:10:00 PM
#40:


you will never grab the ledge 50 times from being legitimately knocked off the stage, that is just too high an amount lol

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GranzonEx
09/30/11 4:10:00 PM
#41:


Imagine only 50 Tiger Shots for Sagat in a mirror match in SF4.

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Viviff
09/30/11 4:11:00 PM
#42:


Biolizard28 posted...
From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #035
Wait a seconds, whats this Im hearing about banning/limiting ledge grabbing?
50 edge grabs per match apparently, in order to prevent stalling like a weenie.

Which begs the question, what the hell are you supposed to do if you hit 50 because you're legitimately getting knocked off the stage? Are you not allowed to save your life?

You will never be knocked off the stage in a match 50 times that require you to grab the ledge or even where it's a good option to do so.

Generally when you get near about 30 grabs, some small form of stalling or quick ledge regrabbing occurred at some time.

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Biolizard28
09/30/11 4:11:00 PM
#43:


From: Viviff | #036
the dumbest move in the history of competitive gaming.


I'd argue that was the development of HD Remix.

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Biolizard28
09/30/11 4:12:00 PM
#44:


From: GranzonEx | #041
Imagine only 50 Tiger Shots for Sagat in a mirror match in SF4.


Only 50?

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_stingers_
09/30/11 4:12:00 PM
#45:


also viviff just because your scene is dead doesn't mean the rest of the US is
I mean I understand, if you were the best player in your state I wouldnt want to play brawl either. I mean ****.
but maybe the problem is that you guys dont host tourneys up there?
I mean hell, I'm hosting a tournament tomorrow (mk banned). maybe you should step it up

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GranzonEx
09/30/11 4:14:00 PM
#46:


From: Biolizard28 | #043
I'd argue that was the development of HD Remix.


SF3

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Biolizard28
09/30/11 4:15:00 PM
#47:


From: GranzonEx | #046
SF3


3S didn't kill SF3's competitive scene.

It should have, but it didn't.

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Viviff
09/30/11 4:15:00 PM
#48:


I've won two tournaments (both singles and doubles) in the last 3 weeks. WTF are you talking about?

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SpeedYoshi
09/30/11 4:16:00 PM
#49:


From: Viviff | #036
Outside of Super-Turbo Akuma, I can't think of a banned fighting character


sf3 gill
tekken5 jinpachi
soul caliber 2 system only characters

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/30/11 4:19:00 PM
#50:


System Specific characters are banned for obvious reasons.

Boss characters usually are as well unless theyre specifically balanced for the game. HDR AKUBA is the only one that was balanced for the game and was still banned because Air Fireballs are just a broken option in SF2.

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