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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 7:37:00 PM
#1:


Did you enjoy the first week of conference play, folks?

Rules:

--You must fill out a complete Top 25 in order for your vote to be counted.

--You must fill out your own Top 25. If you simply copy/paste someone else’s list, I won’t count it.

--Remember, this is meant to be an objective list of what you think the 25 most popular games in the contest are right now, not a personal list of your favorite games. This also means no purposeful upvoting or downvoting to change rankings. Keep this in mind when voting.

--Changing your vote is fine, but please do not edit/delete your posts. Simply make a new post indicating what you would like to change.

--Voting will be open until 9:45 P.M. EST tomorrow night.

This week's top 25:

1. Chrono Trigger (19-0, 1-0) – W, 31-7 vs. Twisted Metal 2
2. Resident Evil 4 (19-0, 1-0) – W, 28-11 vs. Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (18-1, 1-0) – W, 35-12 vs. Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
4. Super Mario World (16-3, 0-1) – L, 22-23 vs. Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
5. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (17-2, 1-0) – W, 36-9 vs. Gears of War 2
6. Super Smash Bros. Melee (17-2, 1-0) – W, 21-18 vs. Mega Man X
7. Super Mario Galaxy (17-2) – W, 24-23 vs. #12 Final Fantasy VI
8. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (17-2, 1-0) – W, 27-17 vs. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
9. Super Mario 64 (16-3, 1-0) – W, 28-18 vs. Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
10. Super Mario Bros. 3 (16-3, 1-0) – W, 26-12 vs. Animal Crossing
11. Final Fantasy VII (17-2, 1-0) – W, 32-5 vs. World of Warcraft
12. Final Fantasy VI (14-5, 0-1) – L, 23-24 vs. #7 Super Mario Galaxy
13. Final Fantasy IX (17-2, 1-0) – W, 28-9 vs. The Secret of Monkey Island
14. Metal Gear Solid (17-2, 1-0) – W, 35-9 vs. Harvest Moon: Back to Nature
15. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (16-3, 1-0) – W, 25-15 vs. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
16. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (15-4, 1-0) – W, 26-16 vs. F-Zero GX
17. Final Fantasy X (15-4, 1-0) – W, 34-9 vs. No More Heroes
18. Tales of Symphonia (17-2, 1-0) – W, 23-12 vs. Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride
19. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (16-3, 1-0) – W, 27-14 vs. Suikoden II
20. Portal (16-3) – W, 25-17 vs. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
21. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (14-5) – W, 30-7 vs. MVP Baseball 2005
22. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (16-3, 1-0) – W, 29-7 vs. flower
23. Okami (16-3, 1-0) – W, 28-9 vs. Hotel Dusk: Room 215
24. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (16-3, 1-0) – W, 33-13 vs. Super Street Fighter IV
25. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (16-3, 1-0) – W, 33-5 vs. Dynasty Warriors 4

Also receiving votes:

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (16-3, 1-0) – W, 24-10 vs. Suikoden III
Star Fox 64 (15-4, 1-0) – W, 30-17 vs. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Half-Life 2 (15-4, 0-1) – L, 15-20 vs. Final Fantasy Tactics
Paper Mario (15-4, 1-0) – W, 26-16 vs. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (14-5, 1-0) – W, 31-13 vs. Fallout 3
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (14-5, 0-1) – L, 21-23 vs. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Final Fantasy Tactics (15-4, 1-0) – W, 20-15 vs. Half-Life 2
Mario Kart 64 (15-4, 1-0) – W, 32-12 vs. Sonic Adventure
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal (15-4, 1-0) – W, 32-9 vs. Max Payne
Mega Man X (13-6, 0-1) – L, 18-21 vs. #6 Super Smash Bros. Melee
Metroid Prime (15-4, 1-0) – W, 27-11 vs. Crash Bandicoot: Warped

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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 7:38:00 PM
#2:


NCAA Games II week by week schedules (including past results):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdEtadTB0dEhmX3JxZkZfdzdhTHF6WGc&hl=en#gid=0

NCAA Games II Conference Breakdowns (including a quicker, faster look at individual games' opponents, wins, and losses):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdDhfenhraVlvNlk3VkUzb0tFalMtYUE&hl=en#gid=0

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PrinceKaro
09/30/11 7:58:00 PM
#3:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
3. Resident Evil 4
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
5. Super Smash Bros. Melee
6. Super Mario 64
7. Super Mario Galaxy
8. Super Mario Galaxy 2
9. Final Fantasy VII
10. Super Mario World
11. Final Fantasy IX
12. Super Mario Bros. 3
13. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
14. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
15. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
16. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
17. Portal
18. Final Fantasy VI
19. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
20. Metal Gear Solid
21. Final Fantasy X
22. Paper Mario
23. Okami
24. Star Fox 64
25. Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal

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SuorGenoveffa
09/30/11 8:01:00 PM
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1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Super Smash Bros. Melee
4. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
5. Super Mario Galaxy
6. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
7. Super Mario 64
8. Super Mario Bros. 3
9. Super Mario Galaxy 2
10. Super Mario World
11. Final Fantasy VI
12. Final Fantasy VII
13. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
14. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
15. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
16. Final Fantasy X
17. Final Fantasy IX
18. Tales of Symphonia
19. Metal Gear Solid
20. Portal
21. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
22. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
23. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
24. Okami
25. Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal

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Janus5000
09/30/11 8:09:00 PM
#5:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
4. Super Smash Bros. Melee
5. Super Mario Galaxy
6. Link to the Past
7. Super Mario Galaxy 2
8. Final Fantasy VII
9. Super Mario 64
10. Super Mario Bros. 3
11. Final Fantasy VI
12. Super Mario World
13. Final Fantasy IX
14. Metal Gear Solid
15. Castlevania: SOTN
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
17. Final Fantasy X
18. Majora's Mask
19. Ocarina of Time
20. Tales of Symphonia
21. Portal
22. Okami
23. Paper Mario
24. Metal Gear Solid 3
25. Persona 4

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TheKnightOfNee
09/30/11 8:11:00 PM
#6:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
4. Super Smash Bros Melee
5. The Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
6. Super Mario Galaxy 2
7. Super Mario 64
8. Super Mario Bros 3
9. Super Mario World
10. Final Fantasy VII
11. Final Fantasy IX
12. Super Mario Galaxy
13. Metal Gear Solid
14. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
15. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
16. Tales of Symphonia
17. Final Fantasy VI
18. Final Fantasy X
19. Donkey Kong Country 2
20. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
21. Metal Gear Solid 3
22. Portal
23. Persona 4
24. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
25. Metroid Prime

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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 8:42:00 PM
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vcharon
09/30/11 9:12:00 PM
#8:


1. Chrono Trigger (19-0, 1-0)
2. Resident Evil 4 (19-0, 1-0)
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (18-1, 1-0)
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (17-2, 1-0)
5. Super Smash Bros. Melee (17-2, 1-0)
6. Super Mario Galaxy (17-2)
7. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (17-2, 1-0)
8. Super Mario 64 (16-3, 1-0)
9. Super Mario Bros. 3 (16-3, 1-0)
10. Final Fantasy VII (17-2, 1-0)
11. Final Fantasy IX (17-2, 1-0)
12. Metal Gear Solid (17-2, 1-0)
13. Super Mario World (16-3, 0-1)
14. Final Fantasy VI (14-5, 0-1)
15. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (16-3, 1-0)
16. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (15-4, 1-0)
17. Final Fantasy X (15-4, 1-0)
18. Tales of Symphonia (17-2, 1-0)
19. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (16-3, 1-0)
20. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (16-3, 1-0)
21. Portal (16-3)
22. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (14-5)
23. Okami (16-3, 1-0)
24. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (16-3, 1-0)
25. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (16-3, 1-0)

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swirIdude
09/30/11 9:51:00 PM
#9:


RPI vote

1. Chrono Trigger (1)
2. Resident Evil 4 (2)
3. Super Mario Galaxy (5)
4. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (7)
5. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (4)
6. Super Mario Bros. 3 (3)
7. Final Fantasy IX (9)
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee (10)
9. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (8)
10. Metal Gear Solid (11)
11. Super Mario World (6)
12. Super Mario 64 (12)
13. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (15)
14. Portal (16)
15. Final Fantasy VII (13)
16. Tales of Symphonia (17)
17. Final Fantasy X (18)
18. Final Fantasy VI (14)
19. Okami (21)
20. Mario Kart 64 (24)
21. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (23)
22. Paper Mario (NR)
23. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (24)
24. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (19)
25. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (25)

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LeonhartFour
09/30/11 11:10:00 PM
#10:


Dem votes.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 12:41:00 AM
#11:


Goodnight bump.

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swirIdude
10/01/11 8:51:00 AM
#12:


Pitiful turnout.

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KCF0107
10/01/11 9:02:00 AM
#13:


I will do this later

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swirIdude
10/01/11 9:59:00 AM
#14:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Pokemon RBY
4. Super Mario Galaxy 2
5. Super Mario Galaxy
6. Super Mario 64
7. Zelda: LttP
8. Super Mario Bros. 3
9. Super Mario World
10. Super Smash Bros. Melee
11. Metal Gear Solid
12. Final Fantasy VII
13. Final Fantasy X
14. Final Fantasy VI
15. Final Fantasy IX
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
17. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
18. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
19. Portal
20. Tales of Symphonia
21. Okami
22. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
23. Castlevania: SotN
24. Paper Mario
25. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 10:25:00 AM
#15:


Up.

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swirIdude
10/01/11 11:13:00 AM
#16:


Oop.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 11:59:00 AM
#17:


Hmph.

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Janus5000
10/01/11 1:07:00 PM
#18:


well

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 1:44:00 PM
#19:


There's a reason we're doing Top 25 voting on Saturday now, and you're seeing what that reason is.

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TheKnightOfNee
10/01/11 1:53:00 PM
#20:


Because nobody votes on Saturdays?

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 1:54:00 PM
#21:


We have a winner!

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red sox 777
10/01/11 2:02:00 PM
#22:


Underwhelming performance by Melee, and I almost put RE4 in #2, as all the defeated top 10 games have had some embarrassing losses now, but I'm keeping RBY and Melee ahead of it for now thanks to their much more impressive wins.

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
3. Super Smash Bros. Melee
4. Resident Evil 4
5. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
6. Super Mario Galaxy
7. Super Mario 64
8. Super Mario Bros. 3
9. Super Mario World
10. Super Mario Galaxy 2
11. Final Fantasy VII
12. Final Fantasy VI
13. Metal Gear Solid
14. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
15. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
16. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
17. Final Fantasy IX
18. Final Fantasy X
19. Portal
20. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
21. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
22. Mario Kart 64
23. Paper Mario
24. Mega Man X
25. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 2:05:00 PM
#23:


From: red sox 777 | #022
but I'm keeping RBY and Melee ahead of it for now thanks to their much more impressive wins.


Which much more impressive wins does Melee have again?

I think RE4 has more wins over the RPI Top 25 than Melee does at this point, and it has zero embarrassing performances, while Melee has a few.

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red sox 777
10/01/11 2:09:00 PM
#24:


RBY: Melee, FFVI
Melee: SM64, 31 wins last contest

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 2:09:00 PM
#25:


I didn't ask about R/B/Y. You can definitely make a solid argument for R/B/Y having more impressive wins than RE4, although it does have a couple of bad performances.

And we've got to get past the point where we consider a win over Mario 64 more impressive than a win over Mario Galaxy! There's no reason to keep thinking this, and RE4 put up pretty much the same percentage on Galaxy that Melee put up on Mario 64.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 2:11:00 PM
#26:


From: red sox 777 | #024
31 wins last contest


I was afraid SOMEBODY was going to admit to this eventually because I knew it was happening.

What Super Smash Bros. Melee did 5 years ago is absolutely irrelevant and should not be factored into Top 25 voting. That's not the purpose of Top 25 voting. Melee was stronger then than it is now, and you have Brawl to thank for that in more ways than one.

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red sox 777
10/01/11 2:16:00 PM
#27:


As long as we're dealing with the small sample sizes we have in this contest (and they will be small until late in the postseason), board popularity is relevant. Would it be surprising if FFVII lost to Animal Crossing in the postseason in this contest? No, because it's happened before.

If Link goes out and has 5 consecutive bad matches while Cloud impresses 5 times in a row, who will be the favorite in the final? Possibly Cloud, but you bet all his supporters are going to be incredibly nervous about it. And no one will be truly surprised if Link defies all the contest buildup and wins 53/47 again.

That said, Melee's performance in this contest is sufficient to put it where I put it. Tying RE4 and crushing SM64 is plenty impressive.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 2:21:00 PM
#28:


From: red sox 777 | #027
board popularity is relevant.


Board popularity right now is relevant. Melee 2006 > Melee 2011

What happens in the postseason doesn't really matter because all sorts of things that go against regular season results are going to occur anyway.

If Link goes out and has 5 consecutive bad matches while Cloud impresses 5 times in a row, who will be the favorite in the final? Possibly Cloud, but you bet all his supporters are going to be incredibly nervous about it. And no one will be truly surprised if Link defies all the contest buildup and wins 53/47 again.


I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. We're not ranking based on potential. We're ranking based on performance. Could Melee win the whole thing again? Sure it could. I doubt it because I don't think the voters will allow it to repeat, but it could. Is Melee looking better than RE4 right now? Not really.

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swirIdude
10/01/11 2:24:00 PM
#29:


Red sox confesses to ****-tastic logic.

Even the NCAA football polls don't vote based on prior seasons. Auburn won the national title but started in the lower part of the Top 25!

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red sox 777
10/01/11 2:25:00 PM
#30:


I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. We're not ranking based on potential. We're ranking based on performance. Could Melee win the whole thing again? Sure it could. I doubt it because I don't think the voters will allow it to repeat, but it could. Is Melee looking better than RE4 right now? Not really.

I'm not ranking on performance. I'm ranking based on which game I would expect to win a match, right now. That is strength, and you quite naturally should consider any information that impacts that evaluation.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 2:26:00 PM
#31:


And you're admitting one of the reasons you think Melee would win right now is because of something that happened 5 years ago, which is completely irrelevant and should be disregarded.

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red sox 777
10/01/11 2:30:00 PM
#32:


I don't think it's irrelevant. It's a weak factor, I agree. And my vote wouldn't really change this far into the season if it were excluded. Certainly at the beginning of the season, when Melee was 2-2, it made a big difference. And it should have.

And: would you rather I rank higher the game I expect would lose? Because that's the definition of a dishonest vote.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 2:31:00 PM
#33:


It shouldn't have because Melee coming out of the gate 2-2 was pretty strong evidence that this isn't the same game that won in 2006, and that gave even less reason to consider a 5 year old contest.

It's entirely irrelevant. It doesn't mean Melee isn't strong because it still is. But Melee in 2006 was at an entirely different level than it is now, and that's been pretty apparent from the beginning.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 2:31:00 PM
#34:


From: red sox 777 | #032
And: would you rather I rank higher the game I expect would lose? Because that's the definition of a dishonest vote.


No, I just think you expect Melee to win for the wrong reasons.

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red sox 777
10/01/11 2:33:00 PM
#35:


And no one is saying that Melee is where it was in 2006. If I thought that, I'd have it at #1.

When Melee was 2-2, if you ignored past board results, you probably wouldn't have ranked Melee at all. Why would you, where there were loads of 4-0 games? And you would have been wrong. Moreover, you would have known you were wrong. The rational thing to do was to weigh all evidence and rank Melee somewhere lower than #1 and higher than #25.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 2:36:00 PM
#36:


You could have still ranked Melee in the top 25 because you factor in the opponents and the margin of victory. But actual performance has to be weighed in there somewhere. Even the best team loses sometimes, but it would defeat the purpose of the voting if you said, "Well, they lost but they're still the best team so let's still rank them #1."

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10/01/11 2:40:00 PM
#37:


You could have still ranked Melee in the top 25 because you factor in the opponents and the margin of victory. But actual performance has to be weighed in there somewhere. Even the best team loses sometimes, but it would defeat the purpose of the voting if you said, "Well, they lost but they're still the best team so let's still rank them #1."

If you didn't consider outside information, you'd have no way of knowing that Melee's opponents in those first 4 weeks were anything special. Of course actual performance matters; this far into the season, it's by far the most important factor. And its actual performance is just as good as RE4's.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 2:55:00 PM
#39:


From: red sox 777 | #037
And its actual performance is just as good as RE4's.


Well, except for the fact that RE4 hasn't lost yet and Melee's lost twice. I'm not sure why this isn't given more priority because winning every game should be more heavily rewarded the later you get into the season. And don't use "RE4 hasn't beaten anyone good so of course it hasn't" as an excuse. It's been much longer since Melee's beaten a high quality opponent in the timeframe in which RE4 has beaten Galaxy, MGS3, and Mario Kart 64. Melee's last real high quality opponent was back in Week 8, and its best win is comparable to RE4's best.

But to go back to Link/Cloud for a moment, the way you and lefty seem to think Melee should still be ranked this high is comparable to the way much of the board thought back in 2003 when they thought Cloud still had no chance of winning despite the writing being on the wall because Link had dominated 2002 so thoroughly.

Being undefeated in 2011 means a whole lot more than being undefeated in 2006 for the purposes of this contest.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 3:14:00 PM
#40:


Anyway, now that we've artificially boosted our post count, it's back to work!

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swirIdude
10/01/11 4:05:00 PM
#41:


There's still time to submit your ballot!

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paulg235
10/01/11 4:12:00 PM
#42:


1. Chrono Trigger (19-0, 1-0) – W, 31-7 vs. Twisted Metal 2
2. Resident Evil 4 (19-0, 1-0) – W, 28-11 vs. Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (18-1, 1-0) – W, 35-12 vs. Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
4. Super Mario Galaxy (17-2) – W, 24-23 vs. #12 Final Fantasy VI
5. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (17-2, 1-0) – W, 27-17 vs. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
6. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (17-2, 1-0) – W, 36-9 vs. Gears of War 2
7. Final Fantasy IX (17-2, 1-0) – W, 28-9 vs. The Secret of Monkey Island
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee (17-2, 1-0) – W, 21-18 vs. Mega Man X
9. Super Mario 64 (16-3, 1-0) – W, 28-18 vs. Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
10. Super Mario Bros. 3 (16-3, 1-0) – W, 26-12 vs. Animal Crossing
11. Final Fantasy VII (17-2, 1-0) – W, 32-5 vs. World of Warcraft
12. Super Mario World (16-3, 0-1) – L, 22-23 vs. Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
13. Metal Gear Solid (17-2, 1-0) – W, 35-9 vs. Harvest Moon: Back to Nature
14. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (16-3, 1-0) – W, 25-15 vs. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
15. Tales of Symphonia (17-2, 1-0) – W, 23-12 vs. Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (16-3, 1-0) – W, 27-14 vs. Suikoden II
17. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (15-4, 1-0) – W, 26-16 vs. F-Zero GX
18. Okami (16-3, 1-0) – W, 28-9 vs. Hotel Dusk: Room 215
19. Final Fantasy VI (14-5, 0-1) – L, 23-24 vs. #7 Super Mario Galaxy
20. Final Fantasy X (15-4, 1-0) – W, 34-9 vs. No More Heroes
21. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (14-5) – W, 30-7 vs. MVP Baseball 2005
22. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (16-3, 1-0) – W, 29-7 vs. flower
23. Portal (16-3) – W, 25-17 vs. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
24. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (14-5, 1-0) – W, 31-13 vs. Fallout 3
25. Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal (15-4, 1-0) – W, 32-9 vs. Max Payne

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TsunamiXXVIII
10/01/11 4:13:00 PM
#43:


1. Chrono Trigger (19-0) (1)
2. Resident Evil 4 (19-0) (2)
3. Super Mario Galaxy (17-2) (3)
4. Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow (18-1) (6)
5. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (17-2) (5)
6. Super Smash Bros. Melee (17-2) (7)
7. Final Fantasy IX (17-2) (8)
8. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (17-2) (11)
9. Super Mario 64 (16-3) (9)
10. Super Mario World (16-3) (4)
11. Super Mario Bros. 3 (16-3) (10)
12. Portal (16-3) (13)
13. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (16-3) (12)
14. Final Fantasy VII (17-2) (14)
15. Tales of Symphonia (17-2) (16)
16. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (14-5) (17)
17. Final Fantasy VI (14-5) (15)
18. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (15-4) (18)
19. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (16-3) (19)
20. Final Fantasy X (15-4) (23)
21. Metal Gear Solid (17-2) (20)
22. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (14-5) (25)
23. Star Fox 64 (15-4) (21)
24. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (16-3) (22)
25. Okami (16-3) (24)
26. Paper Mario (15-4) (27)
27. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (16-3) (26)
28. Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal (15-4) (30)
29. Final Fantasy VIII (13-6) (32)
30. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (15-4) (33)

Some weird fluke where Wind Waker had managed to sneak up a bunch of lines on my ballot by accident. Sure, there were plenty of games in front of it losing, but even those ahead of it that had won had ended up behind it--including Brawl, which beat another game that had been ahead of it! Naturally this was fixed.

(lol two 14-5 games ahead of any 15-4 games)

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KCF0107
10/01/11 4:19:00 PM
#44:


*1. MVP Baseball 2005
1. Chrono Trigger
2. Resident Evil 4
3. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
4. Pokemon R/B/Y
5. Super Mario 64
6. Super Mario World
7. Super Mario Bros. 3
8. Super Mario Galaxy
9. Metal Gear Solid
10. Super Mario Galaxy 2
11. Super Smash Bros. Melee
12. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
13. Final Fantasy X
14. Portal
15. Okami
16. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
17. Final Fantasy VI
18. Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
19. Final Fantasy VII
20. Star Fox 64
21. Final Fantasy IX
22. Half-Life 2
23. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
24. Tales of Symphonia
25. Paper Mario

*- what would be the case in an ideal world

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TsunamiXXVIII
10/01/11 4:57:00 PM
#45:


UltimaterializerX posted...
zzzzzzz week

1. Chrono Trigger (19-0, 1-0) – W, 31-7 vs. Twisted Metal 2
2. Resident Evil 4 (19-0, 1-0) – W, 28-11 vs. Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (18-1, 1-0) – W, 35-12 vs. Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (17-2, 1-0) – W, 36-9 vs. Gears of War 2
5. Super Smash Bros. Melee (17-2, 1-0) – W, 21-18 vs. Mega Man X
6. Super Mario Galaxy (17-2) – W, 24-23 vs. #12 Final Fantasy VI
7. Super Mario World (16-3, 0-1) – L, 22-23 vs. Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow
8. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (17-2, 1-0) – W, 27-17 vs. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
9. Super Mario 64 (16-3, 1-0) – W, 28-18 vs. Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
10. Super Mario Bros. 3 (16-3, 1-0) – W, 26-12 vs. Animal Crossing
11. Final Fantasy VII (17-2, 1-0) – W, 32-5 vs. World of Warcraft
12. Final Fantasy IX (17-2, 1-0) – W, 28-9 vs. The Secret of Monkey Island
13. Metal Gear Solid (17-2, 1-0) – W, 35-9 vs. Harvest Moon: Back to Nature
14. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (16-3, 1-0) – W, 25-15 vs. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
15. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (15-4, 1-0) – W, 26-16 vs. F-Zero GX
16. Final Fantasy X (15-4, 1-0) – W, 34-9 vs. No More Heroes
17. Final Fantasy VI (14-5, 0-1) – L, 23-24 vs. #7 Super Mario Galaxy
18. Tales of Symphonia (17-2, 1-0) – W, 23-12 vs. Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride
19. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (16-3, 1-0) – W, 27-14 vs. Suikoden II
20. Portal (16-3) – W, 25-17 vs. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
21. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (14-5) – W, 30-7 vs. MVP Baseball 2005
22. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (16-3, 1-0) – W, 29-7 vs. flower
23. Okami (16-3, 1-0) – W, 28-9 vs. Hotel Dusk: Room 215
24. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (16-3, 1-0) – W, 33-13 vs. Super Street Fighter IV
25. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (16-3, 1-0) – W, 33-5 vs. Dynasty Warriors 4

Too lazy to even remove the results since only 2 games move.


Voting the previous week's rankings with games that lost dropping is saying "I have no opinion of my own and am merely agreeing with what the masses decided". (Or, since when games are tied in any position other than 25th Leonhart just chooses one to be in the higher position, occasionally it's not the masses but Leon alone whose decision is being agreed with.) Not the behavior I'd expect from Board 8's "everything-snob", and I don't know why I waited this long to call you out on this.

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 6:01:00 PM
#46:


45 minutes.

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swirIdude
10/01/11 6:18:00 PM
#47:


Extend the time limit so we can see Ulti emasculate Tsunami

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LeonhartFour
10/01/11 6:33:00 PM
#48:


Nah, Ulti won't be back in here.

Plus, there's always the discussion topic.

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