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LeonhartFour
10/08/11 8:48:00 PM
#1:


We managed to miss a ballot in our top 25 voting count, so we decided just to repost the topic!

NCAA Games II week by week schedules (including past results):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdEtadTB0dEhmX3JxZkZfdzdhTHF6WGc&hl=en#gid=0

NCAA Games II Conference Breakdowns (including a quicker, faster look at individual games' opponents, wins, and losses):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdDhfenhraVlvNlk3VkUzb0tFalMtYUE&hl=en#gid=0

This week's top 25:

1. Chrono Trigger (1)
2. Resident Evil 4 (2)
3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (4)
4. Super Mario Galaxy (5)
5. Super Mario 64 (8)
6. Final Fantasy VII (11)
7. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (7)
8. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (3)
9. Super Mario Bros. 3 (9)
10. Super Mario World (10)
11. Final Fantasy IX (12)
12. Super Smash Bros. Melee (6)
13. Metal Gear Solid (13)
14. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (18)
15. Final Fantasy VI (14)
16. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (15)
17. Final Fantasy X (16)
18. Portal (19)
19. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (20)
20. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (17)
21. Tales of Symphonia (21)
22. Okami (22)
23. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (23)
24. Paper Mario (NR)
25. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (NR)

Dropped out: Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (24), Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (25)

Also receiving votes:

12 - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
11 - Star Fox 64
9 - Mario Kart 64
8 - Metroid Prime
7 - Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
7 - Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
6 - Final Fantasy Tactics
5 - Half-Life 2
1 - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

For the first time, RE4 is a unanimous #2. FFVII and Melee essentially trade places, and R/B/Y takes a tumble while PW1 rises after its big win. Not much else going on other than a random three spot drop for OoT.

Matches are already underway, so vote!

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LeonhartFour
10/08/11 8:49:00 PM
#2:


Total Points:

300 - Chrono Trigger
288 - Resident Evil 4
265 - The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
253 - Super Mario Galaxy
229 - Super Mario 64
222 - Final Fantasy VII
221 - Super Mario Galaxy 2
211 - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
209 - Super Mario Bros. 3
207 - Super Mario World
191 - Final Fantasy IX
182 - Super Smash Bros. Melee
137 - Metal Gear Solid
128 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
127 - Final Fantasy VI
99 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
98 - Final Fantasy X
97 - Portal
89 - Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
83 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
77 - Tales of Symphonia
63 - Okami
28 - Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
16 - Paper Mario
14 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
12 - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
11 - Star Fox 64
9 - Mario Kart 64
8 - Metroid Prime
7 - Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
7 - Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
6 - Final Fantasy Tactics
5 - Half-Life 2
1 - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

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vcharon
10/08/11 8:50:00 PM
#3:


Ugh, I figured those losses in the bottom 5 of the Top 25 would let TT back in once again.

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LeonhartFour
10/08/11 8:57:00 PM
#4:


This Week's Can't-Miss Matches!

Earthbound vs. Metal Gear Solid 2
Banjo-Kazooie vs. Half-Life 2
Sonic 3 & Knuckles vs. Sonic Adventure 2
#7 Super Mario Galaxy 2 vs. #21 Tales of Symphonia
Kingdom Hearts II vs. KOTOR
#1 Chrono Trigger vs. Resident Evil 2 (As close to CT/RE4 as we're gonna get in the regular season...!)
#11 Final Fantasy IX vs. #22 Okami
#17 Final Fantasy X vs. GoldenEye 007
Donkey Kong Country vs. Kingdom Hearts
#3 A Link to the Past vs. The World Ends With You
Link's Awakening vs. The Wind Waker
Star Fox 64 vs. Twilight Princess
Assassin's Creed II vs. #18 Portal

It's gonna be a great week!

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KCF0107
10/08/11 9:04:00 PM
#5:


I don't seem to see MVP Baseball 2005 vs. Metroid Prime on that list

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LeonhartFour
10/08/11 9:07:00 PM
#6:


You won't be seeing it on any must-see list unless you're a big fan of blowout losses for XD Baseball

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LinkMarioSamus
10/08/11 9:58:00 PM
#7:


Oh wow MGS3 received no support at all. What a fall from grace.

Wind Waker received a vote, seriously? That's...just funny, that's all. To be fair, I actually wasn't expecting it to emerge out of last week victorious.

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LeonhartFour
10/08/11 10:30:00 PM
#8:


Well, it barely made the top 25 last week, so not even getting a vote this week isn't a big surprise.

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LeonhartFour
10/08/11 10:40:00 PM
#9:


For the record, there are 13 games that have been ranked in the Top 25 every week so far this season:

CT
FFIX
FFX
LTTP
Mario 3
Mario 64
Mario World
MGS1
OoT
PW1
R/B/Y
RE4
SSBM

Pretty elite company there!

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KCF0107
10/08/11 11:04:00 PM
#10:


If it weren't for me choosing to not provide a ballot for the first few weeks or so, MVP Baseball 2005 would be the 14th game, making it undeniably elite company!

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LeonhartFour
10/08/11 11:07:00 PM
#11:


Except it still would have made zero top 25s, ever.

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KCF0107
10/08/11 11:11:00 PM
#12:


Oh, I misread what your post said. I thought you were talking about games that have appeared on ballots every week but that was clearly not what you meant

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LinkMarioSamus
10/09/11 4:57:00 AM
#13:


I think someone in the other thread asked why LTTP is only #10 in the RPI despite being #3 in the human top 25. Right now the major reason I can come up with is that LTTP has been sliding due to facing ultra-weak opponents (including our #168, Gears of War 2!).

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transcience
10/09/11 5:54:00 AM
#14:


FF7 has been the bigger mystery. 2 losses, some good wins, #15.

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LinkMarioSamus
10/09/11 8:19:00 AM
#15:


EDIT: You know what, forget it. Nothing I can think of posting will really be of much use to anyone in any way, shape, or form.

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transcience
10/09/11 8:22:00 AM
#16:


somebody sig that

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swirIdude
10/09/11 9:58:00 AM
#17:


Done.

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WarThaNemesis2
10/09/11 10:15:00 AM
#18:


LMS.

Thank you so much.

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LeonhartFour
10/09/11 11:04:00 AM
#19:


From: LinkMarioSamus | #015
EDIT: You know what, forget it. Nothing I can think of posting will really be of much use to anyone in any way, shape, or form.


If only you had realized this sooner.

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LinkMarioSamus
10/10/11 5:56:00 AM
#20:


What a hiatus.

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muddersmilk
10/10/11 7:54:00 AM
#21:


Dang it, missed another Top 25 voting.

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LeonhartFour
10/10/11 9:07:00 AM
#22:


Apologies, technical difficulties prevented me from being able to get online last night.

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LeonhartFour
10/10/11 9:44:00 AM
#23:


Yesterday's results:

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Games of the Decades Conference) (3-18, 0-3) – 8 (20.51%)
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal (Games of the Decades Conference) (17-4, 3-0) – 31 (79.49%)

Contra (Games of the Decades Conference) (10-11, 1-2) – 11 (27.50%)
#24 Paper Mario (Games of the Decades Conference) (17-4, 3-0) – 29 (72.50%)

Earthbound (Games of the Decades Conference) (12-9, 2-1) – 19 (51.35%)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (Games of the Decades Conference) (12-9, 1-2) – 18 (48.65%)

Final Fantasy VIII (Games of the Decades Conference) (14-7, 2-1) – 24 (70.59%)
Max Payne (Games of the Decades Conference) (3-18, 0-3) – 10 (29.41%)

Shining Force II (Games of the Decades Conference) (5-16, 0-3) – 7 (20.00%)
#16 The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Games of the Decades Conference) (18-3, 3-0) – 28 (80.00%)

Sonic Colors (Games of the Decades Conference) (7-14, 1-2) – 12 (34.29%)
SoulCalibur II (Games of the Decades Conference) (15-6, 2-1) – 23 (65.71%)

Banjo-Kazooie (Sonic Overload Conference) (13-8, 2-1) – 21 (58.33%)
Half-Life 2 (Sonic Overload Conference) (16-5, 1-2) – 15 (41.67%)

Bioshock (Sonic Overload Conference) (14-7, 2-1) – 22 (68.75%)
Guitar Hero II (Sonic Overload Conference) (2-19, 1-2) – 10 (31.25%)

Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference) (11-10, 1-2) – 22 (68.75%)
Gears of War (Sonic Overload Conference) (1-20, 0-3) – 10 (31.25%)

Civilization IV (Sonic Overload Conference) (13-8, 2-1) – 14 (41.18%)
Final Fantasy Tactics (Sonic Overload Conference) (17-4, 3-0) – 20 (58.82%)

Mother 3 (Sonic Overload Conference) (11-10, 1-2) – 22 (66.67%)
Sonic CD (Sonic Overload Conference) (3-18, 0-3) – 11 (33.33%)

Sonic 3 & Knuckles (Sonic Overload Conference) (16-5, 3-0) – 22 (56.41%)
Sonic Adventure 2 (Sonic Overload Conference) (18-3, 2-1) – 17 (43.59%)

Brave Fencer Musashi (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (2-19, 0-3) – 13 (44.83%)
Shadow Hearts (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (10-11, 2-1) – 16 (55.17%)

Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (8-13, 0-3) – 11 (31.43%)
Pokemon Black/White (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (15-6, 3-0) – 24 (68.57%)

Again, I apologize for things running so late today.

Please help with bumping matches whenever you can.

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swirIdude
10/10/11 10:26:00 AM
#24:


RPI


1. Chrono Trigger (1) . . . . [1.001667]
2. Resident Evil 4 (2) . . . . [0.977199]
3. Super Mario Bros. 3 (3) . . . . [0.937088]
4. Super Mario Galaxy (4) . . . . [0.934046]
5. Final Fantasy IX (5) . . . . [0.930415]
6. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (6) . . . . [0.927350]
7. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (7) . . . . [0.910839]
8. Metal Gear Solid (9) . . . . [0.899216]
9. Super Mario World (8) . . . . [0.899100]
10. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (10) . . . . [0.893608]
11. Super Mario 64 (11) . . . . [0.893282]
12. Super Smash Bros. Melee (12) . . . . [0.892349]
13. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (13) . . . . [0.879472]
14. Final Fantasy VII (14) . . . . [0.865933]
15. Portal (15) . . . . [0.854619]
16. Tales of Symphonia (16) . . . . [0.846964]
17. Final Fantasy X (17) . . . . [0.839264]
18. Final Fantasy VI (18) . . . . [0.835773]
19. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (19) . . . . [0.820390]
20. Paper Mario (22) . . . . [0.819899]
21. Okami (20) . . . . [0.818106]
22. Mario Kart 64 (21) . . . . [0.816876]
23. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (24) . . . . [0.809748]
24. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (23) . . . . [0.806175]
25. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (25) . . . . [0.800695]
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (27) . . . . [0.786422]
Sonic 3 & Knuckles (31) . . . . [0.784847]
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (28) . . . . [0.784779]
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (26) . . . . [0.784637]
Star Fox 64 (30) . . . . [0.775325]

S3&K, once #2 in the RPI, finally returns to the board after proving old school superiority vs SA2, which dropped to 46th.

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LeonhartFour
10/10/11 11:23:00 AM
#25:


Excellent.

Now to actually get a game from the Sonic Overload Conference into the Top 25 voting!

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WarThaNemesis2
10/10/11 12:26:00 PM
#26:


lol half-life 2

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LinkMarioSamus
10/10/11 5:01:00 PM
#27:


WarThaNemesis2 posted...
lol half-life 2

Tell me about it. Oh well, good for Super Metroid that Half-Life 2 is out of the way.

And lol MGS2 while we're at it. MGS2 led 12-5 at one point, too.

Congrats to Civ4 for not rolling over and dying completely. It actually tied the match at one point! IIRC Civ4 has actually broken 40% in all of its matches (although it does seem to overperform against stronger competition).

Haha Metroid Prime fell off the board because of HL2's loss. I think that's actually HL2's second worst loss percentage-wise, too, to ad insult to injury.

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LeonhartFour
10/10/11 6:04:00 PM
#28:


From: WarThaNemesis2 | #026
lol half-life 2


This is definitely the performance of a game that deserves to be ranked above SSBM.

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KCF0107
10/10/11 8:19:00 PM
#29:


I haven't done so for 2-3 weeks now

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LeonhartFour
10/10/11 8:19:00 PM
#30:


I know.

Just the fact that you ever did so to begin with was ridiculous.

Worse than voting MVP Baseball in the top 25 ever.

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LinkMarioSamus
10/10/11 8:50:00 PM
#31:


Yeah what the heck happened to Half-Life 2 in the last two weeks? From weeks 8-18/19 it really seemed to have something going, and it culminated in giving SMRPG the fight of its life. Now it's narrowly avoiding a loss to Chrono Cross and getting killed by Banjo-Kazooie.

Yep, HL2 lost to FFT by five votes, but lost to BK by six. And on a side note, FFT beat Civ4 by only six votes, which may not exactly be motivating for FFT seeing how it's probably the strongest thing Civ4 has faced so far. Actually, let's take a look at Civ4's losses:

24-30 against Kingdom Hearts in week 2
21-29 against Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance in week 4
18-22 against Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal in week 11 (this made me think Civ4 was in the clear for the rest of the contest)
20-24 against Sonic Adventure in week 12 (wtf happened here...needless to say, my hopes were crushed)
22-23 (lost OT 4-7) against Valkyria Chronicles in week 14 (and suddenly some hope came back...)
17-24 against Dragon Quest V in week 16 (what a horrible performance)
17-25 against Fire Emblem 7 in week 17 (okay, looking a little better...)
14-20 against Final Fantasy Tactics in week 21

So I guess Civ4 underperforms against games with more losses than it has, and overperforms against "big dogs"?

Oh well, good job once again. Now don't tank too badly against Chrono Cross next week please.

Where is Half-Life 2 in the RPI now? I'm going to guess #42.

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LeonhartFour
10/11/11 10:30:00 AM
#32:


Yesterday's results:

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (18-3, 2-1) – 28 (71.79%)
Ogre Battle 64 (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (4-17, 1-2) – 11 (28.21%)
--POR takes care of business against Ogre Battle 64.

God of War II (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (7-14, 1-2) – 19 (51.35%)
Gunstar Heroes (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (6-15, 0-3) – 18 (48.65%)
--GoW2 edges out Gunstar Heroes in a battle of games looking for their first conference win.

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (14-7, 3-0) – 29 (67.44%)
World of Goo (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (8-13, 1-2) – 14 (32.56%)
--Persona 3 improves to 3-0 in conference play with a beatdown of World of Goo.

#7 Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (19-2, 3-0) – 23 (51.11%)
#21 Tales of Symphonia (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) (18-3, 2-1) – 22 (48.89%)
--Symphonia gave Galaxy 2 all it had, but it fell one vote short. The conference seems to be Galaxy 2's for the taking now that it's beaten POR and Symphonia.

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness (Nintendo Objections Conference) (9-12, 0-3) – 13 (36.11%)
Suikoden II (Nintendo Objections Conference) (14-7, 2-1) – 23 (63.89%)
--Disgaea's struggles continue as it falls to 0-3 in conference play with a blowout loss to Suikoden II.

#23 Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (Nintendo Objections Conference) (17-4, 2-1) – 28 (63.64%)
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald (Nintendo Objections Conference) (9-12, 1-2) – 16 (36.36%)
--DKC2 gets back on track with an easy win over R/S/E.

Elite Beat Agents (Nintendo Objections Conference) (3-18, 0-3) – 11 (25.58%)
#8 Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (Nintendo Objections Conference) (19-2, 2-1) – 32 (74.42%)
--Nothing like facing the weakest game in the conference to help you rebound from a tough upset loss.

Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (Nintendo Objections Conference) (8-13, 0-3) – 15 (34.88%)
#14 Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Nintendo Objections Conference) (18-3, 3-0) – 28 (65.12%)
--No letdown for Phoenix Wright here as it takes care of business against Kirby 64.

#5 Super Mario 64 (Nintendo Objections Conference) (18-3, 3-0) – 30 (66.67%)
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Nintendo Objections Conference) (14-7, 2-1) – 15 (33.33%)
--Mario 64 keeps pace with PW1 with a doubling of UC2.

Super Metroid (Nintendo Objections Conference) (15-6, 3-0) – 34 (80.95%)
Super Street Fighter IV (Nintendo Objections Conference) (4-17, 0-3) – 8 (19.05%)
--And look who else is still unbeaten in conference play? It's Super Metroid!

Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (13-8, 2-1) – 31 (75.61%)
Marvel Ultimate Alliance (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (2-19, 0-3) – 10 (24.39%)
--Aria of Sorrow may be able to run the table for the rest of conference play now that it's got Mario World and TTYD behind it.

Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (12-9, 2-1) – 22 (57.89%)
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (7-14, 2-1) – 16 (42.11%)
--DMC3 hands Lufia II its first conference loss.

Fallout 3 (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (14-7, 2-1) – 24 (64.86%)
Legend of Legaia (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (3-18, 0-3) – 13 (35.14%)
--Fallout 3 has no problems beating Legaia.

Gitaroo Man (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (0-21, 0-3) – 9 (23.68%)
Grim Fandango (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (13-8, 3-0) – 29 (76.32%)
--Grim Fandango is still unbeaten in conference after keeping Gitaroo Man winless in everything.

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th3l3fty
10/11/11 10:35:00 AM
#33:


pretty impressive performance from ToS there

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LeonhartFour
10/11/11 3:32:00 PM
#34:


Symphonia has put up two good performances in defeat to Mario 64 and now Galaxy 2. Its other loss was a close one to Portal as well.

It's got a solid resume.

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swirIdude
10/11/11 4:00:00 PM
#35:


Shades of 2005 for ToS.

...taking bets on who upsets ToS in the first round!

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LeonhartFour
10/11/11 4:22:00 PM
#36:


I'll wager on Symphonia stomping Persona 3.

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LinkMarioSamus
10/11/11 4:41:00 PM
#37:


Unfortunately for Super Metroid, it has to deal with Super Mario 64 next week. Seeing how it couldn't even beat Mario Kart 64 or Paper Mario...

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swirIdude
10/11/11 5:10:00 PM
#38:


LeonhartFour posted...
I'll wager on Symphonia stomping Persona 3.

You think P3 will get into the bracket that comfortably? I'm not certain of that!

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LeonhartFour
10/11/11 5:11:00 PM
#39:


Eh, it could get a 6/11 or 5/12 match.

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LeonhartFour
10/11/11 5:12:00 PM
#40:


Although I just realized they can't face off in round 1 since they're from the same conference, so scratch that idea anyway.

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swirIdude
10/11/11 7:47:00 PM
#41:


RPI

1. Chrono Trigger (1) . . . . [1.001338]
2. Resident Evil 4 (2) . . . . [0.977668]
3. Super Mario Bros. 3 (3) . . . . [0.937269]
4. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (6) . . . . [0.934828]
5. Super Mario Galaxy (4) . . . . [0.934332]
6. Final Fantasy IX (5) . . . . [0.930318]
7. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (7) . . . . [0.905895]
8. Metal Gear Solid (8) . . . . [0.899285]
9. Super Mario 64 (11) . . . . [0.898861]
10. Super Mario World (9) . . . . [0.898564]
11. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (10) . . . . [0.893496]
12. Super Smash Bros. Melee (12) . . . . [0.891918]
13. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (13) . . . . [0.880873]
14. Final Fantasy VII (14) . . . . [0.865970]
15. Portal (15) . . . . [0.854386]
16. Final Fantasy X (17) . . . . [0.837782]
17. Final Fantasy VI (18) . . . . [0.835844]
18. Tales of Symphonia (16) . . . . [0.828980]
19. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (19) . . . . [0.820489]
20. Paper Mario (20) . . . . [0.820218]
21. Okami (21) . . . . [0.818633]
22. Mario Kart 64 (22) . . . . [0.817941]
23. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (23) . . . . [0.809565]
24. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (24) . . . . [0.806141]
25. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (25) . . . . [0.800259]
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (26) . . . . [0.790991]
Sonic 3 & Knuckles (27) . . . . [0.785649]
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (28) . . . . [0.784991]
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (29) . . . . [0.784573]
Star Fox 64 (30) . . . . [0.774553]

SMG2 and SM64 make jumps over fellow Mario titles.

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LinkMarioSamus
10/11/11 9:50:00 PM
#42:


Good job Galaxy 2.

For all the flak Half-Life 2 is taking, we have to remember that the one match all contest where it was an obvious underdog, it got 58% (aka against FE7 in week 9). It just seems to have awful performances against games that are flirting with .500.

And...half the top 10 is Mario again, and our #3 is not even in the RPI top 10. Yikes.

Oh yeah I know I'm a few days late but:

Wind Waker > TWEWY > Aria of Sorrow > Wind Waker

To be fair, I actually expected Wind Waker to lose to TWEWY.

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LinkMarioSamus
10/12/11 4:22:00 AM
#43:


Can someone remind me why we ranked LTTP ahead of all the Marios even though it couldn't even beat Paper Mario, let alone one of the major Mario platformers?

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Janus5000
10/12/11 6:42:00 AM
#44:


57% on SM64 is pretty cool tbh

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muddersmilk
10/12/11 6:44:00 AM
#45:


Can someone remind me why we ranked LTTP ahead of all the Marios even though it couldn't even beat Paper Mario, let alone one of the major Mario platformers?

Cause the Mario's were losing one after another?

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LinkMarioSamus
10/12/11 8:56:00 AM
#46:


Oh yeah, and then LTTP itself made Mario 64 look weaker than KOTOR.

So Paper Mario beat LTTP, and LTTP did better against SM64 than Paper Mario did against Super Metroid, so...

...no, there's no way Mario 64 is surrendering to something that Mario Kart 64 beat, right?

*feel free to ignore all this*

On a more serious note, I do kinda believe that LTTP now has some sort of "anti-Mario shield", although whether or not it'll matter in the end is another thing entirely.

That was such a glorious match though, and I can't believe I'm saying that for a Zelda > Mario result (as I said earlier, I'd vote for Mario 3 or either Galaxy over any Zelda title...yet I'd vote for both LTTP and WW over any other Mario title).

Leonhart had better not talk about SM64 being the most overrated game on the board anymore after that "debacle".

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LeonhartFour
10/12/11 9:58:00 AM
#47:


See, you're a liar.

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LeonhartFour
10/12/11 11:41:00 AM
#48:


Yesterday's results (Stop it, LMS):

Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (5-16, 1-2) – 7 (18.42%)
#10 Super Mario World (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (18-3, 2-1) – 31 (81.58%)
--Mario World takes care of business against MvC3.

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (16-5, 3-0) – 25 (64.10%)
Super Mario Sunshine (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) (8-13, 1-2) – 14 (35.90%)
--TTYD easily wins the Mario showdown with Sunshine.

#6 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference) (19-2, 3-0) – 25 (65.79%)
Starcraft (Fanservice Conference) (11-10, 0-3) – 13 (34.21%)
--FFVII has no problems beating Starcraft.

Kingdom Hearts II (Fanservice Conference) (12-9, 3-0) – 24 (63.16%)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference) (12-9, 1-2) – 14 (36.84%)
--KH2 seems to have put its midseason struggles behind it.

Mega Man X (Fanservice Conference) (15-6, 2-1) – 24 (64.86%)
Silent Hill 2 (Fanservice Conference) (10-11, 0-3) – 13 (35.14%)
--MMX gets the win over SH2.

#25 Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (Fanservice Conference) (18-3, 3-0) – 23 (69.70%)
Psychonauts (Fanservice Conference) (8-13, 2-1) – 10 (30.30%)
--T&T keeps pace with FFVII with a win over Psychonauts.

Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference) (6-15, 1-2) – 20 (64.52%)
World of Warcraft (Fanservice Conference) (0-21, 0-3) – 11 (35.48%)
--WoW stays winless after a bad loss to Suikoden III.

#12 Super Smash Bros. Melee (Fanservice Conference) (18-3, 2-1) – 33 (84.62%)
Wild ARMs (Fanservice Conference) (3-18, 1-2) – 6 (15.38%)
--Melee scores the blowout of the day against Wild ARMs.

Burnout 3: Takedown (Smash Trigger Conference) (6-15, 1-2) – 14 (41.18%)
Star Ocean: The Second Story (Smash Trigger Conference) (10-11, 3-0) – 20 (58.82%)
--Star Ocean inches closer to a winning record with its win over Burnout.

#1 Chrono Trigger (Smash Trigger Conference) (21-0, 3-0) – 30 (81.08%)
Resident Evil 2 (Smash Trigger Conference) (6-15, 0-3) – 7 (18.92%)
--I imagine a match with RE4 wouldn't go this easily for CT.

Dark Cloud 2 (Smash Trigger Conference) (5-16, 0-3) – 13 (38.24%)
Marvel vs. Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes (Smash Trigger Conference) (12-9, 3-0) – 21 (61.76%)
--MvC2 improves to 3-0 in conference play with an easy win over Dark Cloud 2.

Halo: Combat Evolved (Smash Trigger Conference) (7-14, 2-1) – 17 (48.57%)
Jet Force Gemini (Smash Trigger Conference) (8-13, 1-2) – 18 (51.43%) (OT, 8-6)
--JFG edges out Halo 1 in OT.

Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo (Smash Trigger Conference) (2-19, 0-3) – 12 (34.29%)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (Smash Trigger Conference) (8-13, 2-1) – 23 (65.71%)
--UC1 rolls past Puzzle Fighter.

Super Smash Bros. (Smash Trigger Conference) (13-8, 3-0) – 29 (74.36%)
Twisted Metal 2 (Smash Trigger Conference) (3-18, 0-3) – 10 (25.64%)
--Smash Bros. and MvC2 keep pace for 2nd best in conference.

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th3l3fty
10/12/11 11:56:00 AM
#49:


Resident Evil 4 is twice the game Resident Evil 2 is (4/2=2) so

CT wins 30-14

MY LOGIC IS FLAWLESS

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LinkMarioSamus
10/12/11 4:02:00 PM
#50:


Yay StarCraft avoided being doubled.

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