Board 8 > Breaking Bad up-to-date topic

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Watching 411 right now... all I need is 412 then I am all caught up, so here's a topic where we can discuss all manner of spoilers freely.

Episode 411 is hilarious right now... Ted Beneke is a moron, and what the hell are they playing Sonic 2006?

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I got caught up with the season earlier today. Indeed, Ted Beneke is a moron.

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4.11 might have the best ending of any BB episode ever.

Also damn, you caught up quick!

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Apparently, being right is a moddable offense.

I can't believe that's how the Beneke plotline ended.

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Oh lord this is beautiful

also holy **** end of 411

I'm gonna save 412 until tomorrow though, at least until I can get access to 413

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Whoever Ted Benke is, he can't be worse than that Badger guy from the latest episode I saw.

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412 has generated a lot of discussion. Might be fun to watch it early so you can weigh in on what you think will happen in the season finale.

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Badger is awesome man

Skinny P is way better though

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From: Coffee Ninja | #007
Whoever Ted Benke is, he can't be worse than that Badger guy from the latest episode I saw.

Oh he's worse. Beneke's gotta be the worst character on the show.

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And yeah, Badger and Skinny Pete had that discussion where they talked about RE4 and Left 4 Dead. A rat turd can do that and be a million times better than Beneke. Hell, a rat turd could do nothing and still be a thousand times better.

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well I've only seen Badger once, and he came off as a complete moron and very unlikeable

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From: PartOfYourWorld | #010
Oh he's worse. Beneke's gotta be the worst character on the show.

least likable*

though he's also on the worse end of the spectrum I think in terms of a character... which is still really good compared to most shows

Still, I think he's great because the instant he is introduced, he sucks all the unlikeableness away from Skyler onto himself, and she becomes awesome

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taggin this

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Also ninja you might want to avoid this topic considering it's entire series spoilers

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From: Coffee Ninja | #007
Whoever Ted Benke is, he can't be worse than that Badger guy from the latest episode I saw.

why are you in this topic

why

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I'm not reading posts, and so far I see nothing spoilery anyway.

I'm usually able to just scan through posts too and filter out stuff.

All thats spoiled for me is some character names, and its not like I wasn't expecting new characters to be added.

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oh and I guess that Resident Evil and L4D convo is spoiled, but...who cares? Nothing important to the plot, I assume.

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I just started watching this today!

won't be reading this topic though

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I assume like REAL spoilers will be coming though, so I prob will stop checking this topic before they do anyway

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can we all please agree that saul goodman is the best?

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The point is they can come at any time, so I don't know how you can determine when to stop until it's too late.

For example: the gif that gin posted of Ted sliding into a wall and killing himself after trying to run away from two strongmen that Skyler asked Saul Goodman (the criminal lawyer that works for Walt/Jesse and now also Skyler) to force Ted to pay the IRS, because if he didn't, they would launch an investigation that would lead back to Skyler and therefore the car wash that Skyler/Walt bought with the millions of $ that Walt was making cooking 200 lbs. meth weekly for Gus Fring of Los Pollos Hermano, the leading distributor of meth in the southwest, whom Walt made a deal with because Tuco was dead (by Hank in the desert after he was trying to find Jesse, who happened to be captured by Tuco along with Walt in his little desert house, because Tuco wanted to eliminate the witnesses of the guy Tuco beat to death during one of his deals with Walt, aka Heisenberg).

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The point is they can come at any time, so I don't know how you can determine when to stop until it's too late.

Yeah I know, but there was still nothing, I didn't read the rest of your post, cause its obvious it contains spoilers, all I needed to see was "for example the gif"


I knew them you were explaining the gif to me, which for now is just some guy getting thrown across a floor and having oranges fall on him. I don't know the context or anything, and I can't even really make out faces in it. However I assume you explain it more in that paragraph, which I'm not gonna read.

This will also be the last time I post ITT. Unless of course I catch up before it ends or something.

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saul uncontested #1 at the end of S3

his diminished screentime and gus's increased greatness have put that into dispute though

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From: Coffee Ninja | #024
I didn't read the rest of your post, cause its obvious it contains spoilers, all I needed to see was "for example the gif"

I intentionally made it that way because I didn't actually want to spoil you, that's why there's such a chunk of text, so that even if your eyes skimmed over it you wouldn't be able to catch anything.

starting 412 now

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Well, nothing much happened there.

Are we trying to guess how they will kill Gus? I'm thinking something will happen where the DEA raids everything and kills all of Gus' men, so Gus is trying to escape, but he is trapped by Walt and Jesse, who are forced to keep him alive so that they can use him to make themselves innocent, or else the DEA will come after them next.

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some people think walt poisoned brock

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I think that Gus will be dead by the end of the finale. Given that the episode title is "Face Off", I think they might do something cute with that, like melt his face with acid. Then next season will be Hank vs Walt and Jesse, or possibly Hank vs Walt vs Jesse if it turns out that Walt poisoned Brock. And who knows where Mike will fit in, not to mention the remnants of the Cartel and Gus's business. I already can't wait for Season 5. Best show EVER.

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I still say the season ends with Jesse shooting someone. The question is simply, is it Walt or Gus?

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Killing off Gus tonight would be just... whoa. That would make the drug war a million times more cluster****ed than it already is. I guess BB is the one show with the balls to do it though. With only one season left, tonight would be a "good" time to start killing off some main characters.

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Mr_Vaga posted...
I still say the season ends with Jesse shooting someone. The question is simply, is it Walt or Gus?

Given those two options, it would be Gus. They've already done the Jesse-threatening-Walt shtick a few times this season. Now they're back together, as the meth gods intended, and Gus's character has IMO worn out his usefulness on the show. They have made him as badass and threatening as possible, so now it's time to bring him down.

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If they're going to do it in one episode, it better be some brilliant ****. They've spent like two and a half seasons building Gus as the mastermind who thinks of everything and is always a half dozen moves ahead. Walt and Jesse, conversely, are always portrayed as being in way over their heads. Some of Walt's plans in the past have been laughably stupid. I don't think anything works out the way he intends, so it better be absolute (and plausible) brilliance or a huge DEA bust that kills Gus, because some Beneke crap for Gus would be awful.

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I have complete faith in this show to give Gus a worthy send-off. Beneke got exactly the death his character deserved, and so will Gus.

How many episodes should it take to kill someone? Gus's fate has been sealed since he committed the cardinal sin (on this show) of Threatening Walt's Family in 4x11. The clock has been ticking on him since then, and when better than the finale to give Gus a spectacular dramatic sendoff and kick Season 5 into a dramatic power-vacuum tailspin?

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i agree that gus may well go down in the finale. the ending to the show shouldn't involve a godlike supervillain, but the brother-in-law walt brought onto himself

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You're right, I suppose it can be done tonight. I don't really want a Gus-less season, though. His screen presence on this show is unreal.

And I still can't believe Beneke is dead. Not even Benny Hill music could have made that funnier.

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I don't think BB is the kind of the show that would kill Gus in a season finale... they would save that for episode 502 or 503 or something, like with Tuco. Though I guess having Gus dead would create enough of a cliffhanger in regards to the entire meth operation. Each season HAS ended with a death, so it's likely there will be one, but I don't think it's a main character. I'm gonna put a vote down for a family member... Skyler or Walt jr. or Hank.

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Walt and Jesse, conversely, are always portrayed as being in way over their heads.

But more importantly, some ridiculous **** always falls into their laps and they luck out.

From: Pianist | #035
the ending to the show shouldn't involve a godlike supervillain, but the brother-in-law walt brought onto himself

I'm thinking Saul will be the end of him

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Or Hector Salamanca will help to kill Gus or something. Jesse saw the animosity between the two, there might be a way to take advantage of that.

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I still don't understand why they completely dropped the plotline with Walter's rich ex-partner, and never really explained what happened there.

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foolm0ron posted...
I don't think BB is the kind of the show that would kill Gus in a season finale... they would save that for episode 502 or 503 or something, like with Tuco. Though I guess having Gus dead would create enough of a cliffhanger in regards to the entire meth operation. Each season HAS ended with a death, so it's likely there will be one, but I don't think it's a main character. I'm gonna put a vote down for a family member... Skyler or Walt jr. or Hank.

But what does killing Skyler or Walt Jr. accomplish aside from enraging an already homicidally-inclined Walt? And I can't even entertain the idea of killing Hank with his plotline so far from resolution. I have never seen Breaking Bad kill someone without good reason. Killing a family member at this point doesn't move things along.

Someone is bound to die in the finale, and story-wise, there is one character whose arc has wrapped up and who is too big of a threat to the main characters to continue living, and that's Gus. His continued existence is a blocking issue for the series. Every other faction in this show is seeking his overthrow: Walt and Jesse, the Cartel, the DEA. So they can either make BB "The Gus Pwning Everyone Show", or they can kill him. I guess it could happen in Season 5, but they already have a lot of ground to cover in just one season. Better to just do it and leave the audience guessing over the hiatus as to what will happen with all the hydra heads chopped off the meth business.

But more importantly, some ridiculous **** always falls into their laps and they luck out.

Exactly! :D But what I love about Breaking Bad is that they always make it believable for the characters, no deus ex machina crap.

I'm thinking Saul will be the end of him

I figure that Walt's eventual comeuppance will involve every character in the series minus the baby, but the main players will be Hank (that showdown has been brewing for seasons) and Jesse (who has arguably been screwed by Walt more than anyone else).

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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #039
I still don't understand why they completely dropped the plotline with Walter's rich ex-partner, and never really explained what happened there.

I'd like to see that brought back. Enough can be inferred just from the info and flashbacks we were shown, but I want things to be shown in a clearer light. We're still not sure exactly how Walt went from a genius chemist contributing to Nobel work to a broke high school teacher.

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Maybe they reveal that Elliot/Gretchen are the same as Walt/Skyler... Elliot is a master meth chef and Gretchen is the money launderer, using the Grey Matter company as a cover, so they become relevant again in S5 when they start looking into the german company, etc.

The parallels are all there...
Also Elliot/Gretchen offered to pay for Walt's medical expenses, Walt/Skyler offer to pay for Hank's medical expenses

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And that's why Walt wasn't included in the company... because they didn't want to involve an innocent like him in this huge illegal setup

~*irony*~

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foolm0ron posted...
Maybe they reveal that Elliot/Gretchen are the same as Walt/Skyler... Elliot is a master meth chef and Gretchen is the money launderer, using the Grey Matter company as a cover, so they become relevant again in S5 when they start looking into the german company, etc.

The parallels are all there...
Also Elliot/Gretchen offered to pay for Walt's medical expenses, Walt/Skyler offer to pay for Hank's medical expenses

this is too awesomely funny to be true. even for this show.

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foolm0ron posted...
Maybe they reveal that Elliot/Gretchen are the same as Walt/Skyler... Elliot is a master meth chef and Gretchen is the money launderer, using the Grey Matter company as a cover, so they become relevant again in S5 when they start looking into the german company, etc.

The parallels are all there...
Also Elliot/Gretchen offered to pay for Walt's medical expenses, Walt/Skyler offer to pay for Hank's medical expenses

That actually would make a lot of sense. Can't wait to see how the Gus thing wraps up.

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foolm0ron posted...
Maybe they reveal that Elliot/Gretchen are the same as Walt/Skyler... Elliot is a master meth chef and Gretchen is the money launderer, using the Grey Matter company as a cover, so they become relevant again in S5 when they start looking into the german company, etc.

The parallels are all there...
Also Elliot/Gretchen offered to pay for Walt's medical expenses, Walt/Skyler offer to pay for Hank's medical expenses

I think it'd be a little ridiculous if they were involved in the meth trade and connected to all of this. I do like the idea that they're into some shady business though and the parallels there are quite interesting.

From: foolm0ron | #042
start looking into the german company, etc.

and schwarz is a name of germanic origin...!

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From: CherryCokes | #047
and schwarz is a name of germanic origin...!

..!!

so do you guys know about any livestreams for this thing or do you guys actually watch this on (lol) TV?

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you don't have AMC?

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also no, no livestreams to my knowledge

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