Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: Laharl vs. Lelouch de Lamperouge [MPFC]

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KanzarisKelshen
10/22/11 4:56:00 PM
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The Rules:

-Matches will last exactly 24 hours. Votes after that much time has elapsed will not be counted, even if a new topic hasn't gone up yet.
-This is a contest to determine which character is the most *powerful*. Vote only for the character you think would win in a fight, not the one who's funnier, cooler, or sexier. If you don't do that I can't count your vote.
-BOLD YOUR VOTE. Unbolded votes will NOT be counted.
-Rallying is allowed. Alts are not.
-Fights will take place in a neutral terrain. This does not necessarily mean a *featureless* terrain: assume that both characters will have a chance to use all of their skills to the fullest here, barring setting-specific abilities and anything that requires the presence of multiple enemies (but see below).
-Characters start the fight alone. They don't bring allies with them, like Kerrigan and the Zerg Swarm for instance. Summons are allowed though, provided they're brought once combat has started.
-Fighters retain their usual personalities. They won't fight to kill unless that's their MO, and won't spam their best attacks to win unless, again, that's how they act in their original media.
-Similarly, fighters are unaware of their opponents capabilities at the start of the fight unless their powers facilitate them information (like knowing all there is to know in the universe - this would include who the opponent is and what he can do, as well as weaknesses)
-You don't have to justify your vote, but it helps. If you feel like you can add something to the debate, go right ahead!
-Seriously, BOLD THE VOTE. So important it bears repeating.
-Bracket Link, for viewing past results and future matches:
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?&tid=408528&tclass=

Past Results:
To absolutely nobody's surprise, Yuki crushed Goku. Discounting the known joke votes, this gives us our first shutout mercy in a while. Votals: 0-15

(1) Laharl
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From Disgaea, Laharl is the youngest Overlord in the cosmos. Selfish and arrogant, Laharl's level of 1500 (in Disgaea terms, levels and stats are actual, tangible concepts) places him on a high power tier, among the strongest beings in the universe after the Overlord Baal; He is known for his feat of destroying a fleet of 2 million spaceships in 10 minutes – without killing a soul. In a bad ending of Disgaea 2, he destroys the planet he is fighting on out of sheer annoyance.

Laharl's techniques include Blazing Knuckle (jumps into the air and landing on the foe in a burst of mana and fire), Overlord's Wrath (summons hundreds of energy balls that rain down on his target), and Meteor Impact (summons a large meteor Laharl then rides on). Laharl used to be weak to positive thinking, kindness, and large breasts; he has since overcome these weaknesses, though he can still be knocked off-guard by them.

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(5) Lelouch de Lamperouge
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From Code Geass, Lelouch de Lamperouge is a brilliant schemer, and the possessor of the titular Geass, whose power enables him to control anyone who looks at him and hears his commands. Additionally, he has access to the powerful Knightmare (or mech) known as Shinkirou.

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/22/11 4:58:00 PM
#2:


do they start face-to-face

if so lelouch, otherwise Laharl

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LlednarTwem
10/22/11 4:59:00 PM
#3:


Laharl likes to rant about being a mighty overlord, right? I could see this resulting in him getting Geassed.

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WickIebee
10/22/11 4:59:00 PM
#4:


All I really have to say is...

Laharl: I AM THE ALMIGHTY OVERLORD
Lelouch: That's nice, I'm King of the World *opens Geass eye* NOW DIE

The end... Lelouch

He'll be done for next fight

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KanzarisKelshen
10/22/11 4:59:00 PM
#5:


I vaguely recall something about nether speech. Does Disgaea use a different language from japanese/english? Also, would the Geass work on demons?

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/22/11 5:00:00 PM
#6:


From: LlednarTwem | #003
Laharl likes to rant about being a mighty overlord, right? I could see this resulting in him getting Geassed.


From: WickIebee | #004
All I really have to say is...

Laharl: I AM THE ALMIGHTY OVERLORD
Lelouch: That's nice, I'm King of the World *opens Geass eye* NOW DIE

The end... Lelouch

He'll be done for next fight


That's what I'm thinking yeah

Lelouch

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UberPyro64
10/22/11 5:02:00 PM
#7:


Lelouch

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UberPyro64
10/22/11 5:04:00 PM
#8:


No Mercy!
Lets have a forth match today!

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Sceptilesolarbeam
10/22/11 5:04:00 PM
#9:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #005
I vaguely recall something about nether speech. Does Disgaea use a different language from japanese/english? Also, would the Geass work on demons?


Laharl tolerates some human minions, so I imagine he can speak English.

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Natwaf_akidna
10/22/11 5:04:00 PM
#10:


Yeah, Laharl rambles on when he meets somebody. Though ordering Laharl to kill himself might backfire, dude can tank planet busting moves, and that's not good for Lulu. Still...

Lelouch

So long as he goes for incapacitation.

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DeathChicken
10/22/11 5:05:00 PM
#11:


Wasn't CAPTAIN GORDON, DEFENDER OF THE EARTH a human? Laharl understood him just fine

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Drakeryn
10/22/11 5:13:00 PM
#12:


Why is the previous match not still going? There were several votes for Goku, and about half of the actual arguments were for Goku as well.


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X_Dante_X
10/22/11 5:14:00 PM
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I was actually considering changing my vote to goku; I hadn't considered the feats of goku vs buu.

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LlednarTwem
10/22/11 5:20:00 PM
#14:


Sounds like my memory was accurate.
Lelouch

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GANON1025
10/22/11 5:21:00 PM
#15:


Let us all hope for a Lelouch vs. Lelouch match

Lelouch

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Pirateking2000
10/22/11 5:21:00 PM
#16:


My opinion it goes like this

Laharl starts off talking about how he is the strongest overlord ever

Lelouch seeing this (to him) little kid does one of the following

"kill yourself" (Lelouch wins)

"Shut up" (wastes his geass and Laharl promptly kills him)

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dragon22391
10/22/11 5:21:00 PM
#17:


If you think MWC was voting for Goku as a joke you are out of your
Mind. I can also confirm that KJh and myself are serious as well.

I don't like the host making discretionary calls based upon no evidence - many votes are posted in each match with accompanying posts, and it is horribly unfair that that match be closed against the wishes of board 8.

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/22/11 5:23:00 PM
#18:


There is no way in hell Laharl ignores Geass.

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Achromatic
10/22/11 5:24:00 PM
#19:


Thinking Yuki would lose to Goku is akin to a joke so its pretty fair.

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Pirateking2000
10/22/11 5:25:00 PM
#20:


Let us all hope for a Lelouch vs. Lelouch match


Nope if Lelouch wins here he is getting destroyed by megas.

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/22/11 5:26:00 PM
#21:


From: Achromatic | #019
Thinking Yuki would lose to Goku is akin to a joke so its pretty fair.


[19:26:54] <@HGR> someone should tell chris his face is akin to a joke

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Pirateking2000
10/22/11 5:28:00 PM
#22:


Seriously it all comes down to what Lelouch says which decides whether he loses or wins

I doubt he would tell a kid (what looks like a kid to him) to go kill himself

if he says "shut up" or something that humiliates laharl but doesn't KO him Laharl gets REALLY pissed and goes Overlord's Wrath at which point Lelouch would go "OH **** WAIT" (boom)

His geass hax only works once per person I believe unless they were hit with geass cancel.

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Achromatic
10/22/11 5:28:00 PM
#23:


From: Pirateking2000 | #022
Seriously it all comes down to what Lelouch says which decides whether he loses or wins

I doubt he would tell a kid (what looks like a kid to him) to go kill himself

if he says "shut up" or something that humiliates laharl but doesn't KO him Laharl gets REALLY pissed and goes Overlord's Wrath at which point Lelouch would go "OH **** WAIT" (boom)

His geass hax only works once per person I believe unless they were hit with geass cancel.


He knows its a fight.

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/22/11 5:29:00 PM
#24:


From: Pirateking2000 | #022
I doubt he would tell a kid (what looks like a kid to him) to go kill himself


he would

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Natwaf_akidna
10/22/11 5:29:00 PM
#25:


Oh, wait, now I remember, Laharl can just stab himself to commit suicide, no need to use Overlord's Wrath and endanger Lelouch in the process.

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Pirateking2000
10/22/11 5:30:00 PM
#26:


Again this can go back to Twilight and Bryan for the appearance argument

Can be like saying "Oh I am fighting a kid lol"

he wouldn't know Laharl is capable of planet busting.

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Pirateking2000
10/22/11 5:32:00 PM
#27:


he would


Oh really never saw this. I remember him using his geass to make a bunch of random thugs do random **** but not kill themselves

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XIII_rocks
10/22/11 5:32:00 PM
#28:


Lelouch

From: dragon22391 | #017
If you think MWC was voting for Goku as a joke you are out of your
Mind. I can also confirm that KJh and myself are serious as well.


I think MWC insulting the entire board and the contest's voterbase multiple times in this match and the Buu match is enough of a joke in itself, he just doesn't get it.

It's one or the other: he was joking, or he's an ass hat not to be taken seriously >_>

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dragon22391
10/22/11 5:32:00 PM
#29:


Oh hey LOOK more "your vote is dumb" arguments. I'm surprised Kan just didn't discount all of NoN Lelouch's votes on this absurd precedent you're setting.

Another MPFC that's a sham, what a surprise. At least it wasn't corrupt hosts that ruined past renditions.

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/22/11 5:32:00 PM
#30:


From: Pirateking2000 | #029
he would


Oh really never saw this. I remember him using his geass to make a bunch of random thugs do random **** but not kill themselves


From: Achromatic | #023
He knows its a fight.



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Pirateking2000
10/22/11 5:35:00 PM
#31:


again I just said you would know you were fighting someone who looks 10. You would expect them randomly beat at your shins and you go "lol really" and wouldn't take it seriously.

Again Twilight vs Bryan fight discussion about appearance / reaction

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Achromatic
10/22/11 5:38:00 PM
#32:


Who gives a **** about some random round one match. Stop bringing it up.

I mean really now. Lelouch, when he knows its life or death, does not screw around. Mostly because he has seen people who look ten be very deadly.

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Wanglicious
10/22/11 5:39:00 PM
#33:


lelouch.
exactly the kind of guy who'd fall for geass.

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GANON1025
10/22/11 5:42:00 PM
#34:


Yeah he wouldn't hesitate to use it on Rolo or that one pilot of the Knights Guard or whatever, Laharl being a child will make no difference.

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dragon22391
10/22/11 5:43:00 PM
#35:


Just because MWC is obnoxious about his opinions doesn't make his opinions invalid. And it doesn't count for the at least two more legitimate votes. I can't believe you're all lettIng such an absurd premise pass just because you disagree with the ruling. Goddamn.

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GANON1025
10/22/11 5:45:00 PM
#36:


I don't understand, didn't Yuki have a 15-vote lead? Doesn't the match automatically end then?

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saveus_Maria
10/22/11 5:46:00 PM
#37:


From: dragon22391 | #024
At least it wasn't corrupt hosts that ruined past renditions.


to be fair, Anagram's corruption was at least a part of what ruined his MPFC's

the other part was that he was just terrible at it

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Anagram
10/22/11 5:48:00 PM
#38:


saveus_Maria posted...
From: dragon22391 | #024
At least it wasn't corrupt hosts that ruined past renditions.
to be fair, Anagram's corruption was at least a part of what ruined his MPFC's

the other part was that he was just terrible at it


How was I corrupt?

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XIII_rocks
10/22/11 5:48:00 PM
#39:


From: dragon22391 | #035
Just because MWC is obnoxious about his opinions doesn't make his opinions invalid. And it doesn't count for the at least two more legitimate votes. I can't believe you're all lettIng such an absurd premise pass just because you disagree with the ruling. Goddamn.


I think MWC is regarded as a joke voter, his arguments are a joke, his demeanour is a joke, everything about him is a joke. Even taking out his past reputation it is impossible to take a post that uses about 50 >s in a row seriously.

Yeah I agree it doesn't account for the other two votes, I was just talking about MWC

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Kenri
10/22/11 5:49:00 PM
#40:


MWC may be a joke user, but that was not a joke vote (to say nothing of the other, thoroughly legitimate votes).

This sets a really bad precedent.

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/22/11 5:50:00 PM
#41:


Lelouch

If he knows it's a fight to the death against a powerful foe, he'll go for the immediate Geass, and Laharl would probably fall for it.

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Drakeryn
10/22/11 5:50:00 PM
#42:


MWC may be a joke user, but that was not a joke vote (to say nothing of the other, thoroughly legitimate votes).

This sets a really bad precedent.


This.


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saveus_Maria
10/22/11 5:50:00 PM
#43:


on multiple occasions you posted tallies that were wrong in favor of characters that you liked winning, and every single time people called you out on it and your response was that you had 'removed suspicious voters from the tallies'

oh yeah let me just remove a few voters from each side so that the character I like more wins by one vote, that's not suspicious at all!

then on literally every single occasion when the people forced you to post the list of voters you had removed, there was always a number of legitimate voters on both sides, always more for the character that actually won

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Wanglicious
10/22/11 5:51:00 PM
#44:


Just because MWC is obnoxious about his opinions doesn't make his opinions invalid

world is a better place if it is.
match was a gimme, mwc was posting, don't care it was mercy'd. don't have any problems with the sequence there and don't particularly care.

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saveus_Maria
10/22/11 5:51:00 PM
#45:


granted I do disagree with the ruling in this case because it sets a precedent that someone can rally and have 15 people spam the topic as soon as it opens and a character can win with no arguments by mercy,

I just think Anagram is still a much worse host than Kan

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XIII_rocks
10/22/11 5:53:00 PM
#46:


Fair point, I don't really see why HGR's vote was banned. Or the other one. MWC should just not be taken seriously in this contest at all though. It's fanboy logic zone all the time and not even good fanboy logic

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AfroSquirrel
10/22/11 5:54:00 PM
#47:


If it makes anyone feel better, I change my vote in the previous topic from Gordon Freeman to Yuki Nagato.

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Anagram
10/22/11 5:55:00 PM
#48:


saveus_Maria posted...
on multiple occasions you posted tallies that were wrong in favor of characters that you liked winning, and every single time people called you out on it and your response was that you had 'removed suspicious voters from the tallies'

then on literally every single occasion when the people forced you to post the list of voters you had removed, there was always a number of legitimate voters on both sides, always more for the character that actually won


I never removed suspicious votes because I wanted a character to win, I removed suspicious votes because they were from accounts with less fifty karma. In fact, I specifically never voted in any match at all, even the ones I did care about, because I wanted to be neutral.

Call me an awful host if you'd like, and perhaps it's true, but I didn't fudge the vote totals on purpose.

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saveus_Maria
10/22/11 5:56:00 PM
#49:


oh okay it was just a coincidence every single time you were caught attempting to cheat using the same method in close matches multiple times

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XIII_rocks
10/22/11 5:56:00 PM
#50:


Yes you did. DON'T LIE.

(I don't know either way, I'm just saying)

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