Board 8 > Skyward Sword has gotten boring and tedious.

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"nice comma splice"

I don't know about Skyward Sword, but my cartridge of A Link to the Past showed up in the mail today, ordered from ebay a week ago for a total of 17 bones. Who's really the winner here?? Looks like I'm gonna have a fantastic evening.

Does SS really have bad music? They made such a big deal about it being done by a real orchestra.

Nook I'm proud of you.

Despite having all these weird and frivolous complaints you still stuck with it


good job man

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ah yeah aLttP top 5 zelda

and nah, Skyward's music is great.

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Zontian posted...
Does SS really have bad music? They made such a big deal about it being done by a real orchestra.

easily my favorite zelda soundtrack so I don't know about these guys

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the music in SS is mostly good, the only place I'd say it really disappointed was the credits, hard to live up to the precedent that LTTP, OoT, WW, and TP set there

SHINE GET 64 posted...
Nook I'm proud of you.

Despite having all these weird and frivolous complaints you still stuck with it


good job man

gee thanks

I would've quit if it was a bad game. It's not though. It's also not a 9-10 like most critics have been hyping it up to be.

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From: Zontian | #103
Does SS really have bad music? They made such a big deal about it being done by a real orchestra.

It's not bad, just has no memorable tunes.

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Sorozone posted...
no memorable tunes.

not sure if serious

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From: Rad Link 5 | #087
Don't ignore my comma splice, you jerk.

Mine was the Comma Splice of the Year

Get on my level

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It has one, which is the main theme, every other Zelda title has at least 2.

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I guess Nook cares more about internet grammar than game design because he's avoiding talking about something as interesting as an actual game he has worked on, but jumps all over a bad comma splice

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not sure if serious

it is one of the least melodic zelda soundtracks, certainly for console, and having good strong monophonic melodies is one of the biggest things that tends to translate to "memorable". one of the advantages that older guys like koji kondo have over the newer composers who did SS' soundtrack is that the old hardware forced you to write that kind of music

that being said I still think the SS soundtrack is pretty great, slightly better than TP on the whole

The music for Skyloft and Faron Woods definitely fit what you just described.

@foolm0ron: Um, I wasn't sure if you were serious or not. You just randomly came in and started flaming me and even got one of your messages deleted. I just assumed you were mad about this topic, so I ignored you. You also singled me out as a "Nintendo fan" in which case, I'll fully admit I am one. I'm also a fan of Sega, Clover/Platinum, suda51, and ios gaming.

If you wanna have a serious discussion about game design, then I'm all ears, kiddo.

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also, the music for when youre flying around

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Now you're just confusing me because first I thought you had developed games, but no I guess you just made that up.
Then I thought you were into grammar because of your obsession over comma splices, but no that can't be right, because you misinterpreted "these are Nintendo fans", referring to a plural, as "singling out".

The only reason I stuck around this topic after having dismissed your opinions on game design is because you mentioned that you worked on games, so I was ready to swallow my words and learn from a game designer, but I was just wasting my time.

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From: Sorozone | #094
Metroid Prime has a better atmosphere, better music, and a better world.

and nostalgia goggles.

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So do you have anything to contribute to this conversation at all, champ?

I've worked on games, but nothing anybody's ever heard of. I do know my way around XNA and know a little bit of coding, but nothing extreme.

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tazzyboyishere posted...
Metroid Prime is one of my favorite games of all time. That artifact hunt is on of the most painful things devised in any of Nintendo's games.

It's not that bad. I mean, they tell you exactly where to find them.

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it is one of the least melodic zelda soundtracks, certainly for console, and having good strong monophonic melodies is one of the biggest things that tends to translate to "memorable". one of the advantages that older guys like koji kondo have over the newer composers who did SS' soundtrack is that the old hardware forced you to write that kind of music

no one would want to listen to monophonic music! how silly.

From: TomNook7 | #119
I've worked on games, but nothing anybody's ever heard of. I do know my way around XNA and know a little bit of coding, but nothing extreme.

Not relevant to the discussion.

You're a hypocrite who applies double standards. Older games get free passes due to nostalgia, and you harshly criticise newer games for the exact same flaws.

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From: neonreap | #004
it gets worse than the first 2 hours? how is that possible

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no one would want to listen to monophonic music!

never said the entire song was monophonic, just the melody, this tends to be the most memorable type because it translates well to humming/singing which would likely be the origin of music long before we had other instruments, just a weird thing hard wired in our brains

I guess some of you people had your volume off whenever this song played:



It's easily the best song in the game, and one of the best in the entire series.

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it's really good but I wouldn't call it very memorable, when we're discussing that aspect it doesn't necessarily mean it's bad



not memorable at all but I love iiiiit :)

I'd rank it below WW and above TP.


OoT>MM>WW>SS>TP as far as 3D zelda games go.

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Top Tier
Majora's Mask
Ocarina of Time
Link's Awakening

Amazing Tier
A Link to the Past
Wind Waker
Spirit Tracks

Great Tier
The Minish Cap
Twilight Princess
Oracle of Ages/Seasons
Four Swords Adventures
Four Swords

lol NES games
Zelda
Zelda 2

"It's Zelda, man."
Skyward Sword
Phantom Hourglass

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iGenesis posted...
You're a hypocrite who applies double standards. Older games get free passes due to nostalgia, and you harshly criticise newer games for the exact same flaws.

Not true. I've only played and beaten the Banjo games in the last three years and I loved them. Those two games were some of the most fun tedium I've ever played. It was good fun 100% completing them. And finding all the masks in MM. And finding the Gold Skulltullas in OoT. And the Oysters in San Andreas. And the endings and side quests in Chrono Trigger.

Know why? Cause none of those were forced on me. All those scavenger hunts I did of my own accord because the games were good and fun enough for me to want to complete them.

Skyward wasn't fun enough for me to warrant a 100% completion because those hunts were FORCED on me. Wtf, I don't wanna find every last tear and musical fish; don't MAKE me do it.. That was boring as hell. Reminded me of cleaning up **** with the FLUDD. Skyward Sword just overstayed it's welcome in that regard.


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btw thats 60 tears and 74 notes that this game MAKES you collect

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Liquid Wind posted...
no one would want to listen to monophonic music!

never said the entire song was monophonic, just the melody, this tends to be the most memorable type because it translates well to humming/singing which would likely be the origin of music long before we had other instruments, just a weird thing hard wired in our brains

Calling a melody monophonic is redundant.

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Calling a melody monophonic is redundant.

no it isn't.

fetch quests and the first hour of boringness are my only gripes

well

the 6th and 7th dungeons don't touch 1-5 which were amazing

either way this game is a solid A-, and has a great soundtrack. It makes WW and TP look dumb, and has a chance at being in the same realm/conversation as OOT/MM.

That's enough to warrant acclaim. It was a good game.

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Liquid Wind posted...
Calling a melody monophonic is redundant.

no it isn't.

Redundant isnt the right word. But your usage is still incorrect. Monophonic describes texture, not melody.

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Hey I just finished the game

The biggest flaw is Big-lips Link

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Monophonic describes texture, not melody.

this does not make aforementioned post redundant.

From: tazzyboyishere | #098
Metroid Prime is one of my favorite games of all time. That artifact hunt is on of the most painful things devised in any of Nintendo's games.

Sky Temple Keys in MP2 were worse, since you actually HAD to collect those AFTER getting everything. With the artifacts I've basically memorized each of their locations and have a set path to get them on the sequence I made to get them as fast as possible. If I'm passing by an area I would just get the artifact, for example. Really not bad at all on subsequent playthroughs, at least.

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