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Team Rocket Elite -Snakes' Hole of Force -Conjure Fortification -Cold Beam -Invocation of Slay Annihilators -Accuracy Control -Spell of Transform Air -Gods' Evocation
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Luis_Sera89 -Breathing Alteration -The Perfected Hex of Ooze -Curse of Time and Barbs -Rain of Lava and Disappearance -Electrical Bolts -Abjuration of Conjuration -Greater Casting of the Thunderous Chain
The fight will take place in the “Gauntlet of Annihilation”
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Amusingly Invocation of Slay Annihilators is a form of Annihilation spell as well and will work even better in the Gauntlet of Annihilation which favours OHKO spells. Conjure Fortification won't work against Abjuration of Conjuration but Transforming Air doesn't require conjuring anything. It only changes what already exists. Once again Accuracy Control is an amazing buff. No breathing is required if the air in your lungs is directly targeted. As always Accuracy Control lets me dodge attacks.
Team Rocket Elite
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Electrical Bolts and Greater Casting of the Thunderous Chain combo pretty well together, meaning I should be nigh peerless with electrical power. A chain of electricity should be broad enough and in such a constant stream that TRE's accuracy spell will be overwhelmed. Alter Breathing counters Transform Air, and I can abjure anything conjured. TRE's output is pretty limited really - I'm not an annihilator, and Cold Beam is pretty tame compared to my offensive spells.
Luis
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Electrical bolts or chains are directed attacks. You will have difficulty hitting me with either due to Accuracy Control. Transform Air is not limited to offensive use. I can transform air into rubber to make a wall or even a lightning rod to redirect your electrical attacks if they become problematic. Breathing Alteration doesn't help you if I transform the air into something that's dangerous even if you don't breathe it in. At the very bare minimum, I can create odorless, colourless poison that is absorbed through your skin.
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You couldn't be changing the air and controlling accuracy simultaneously. If you find the electricity is a large enough AoE to warrant blocking it, then you leave yourself open to being choked to death, or poisoned. Not to mention a rain of lava would destroy rubber barriers anyway.
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I can use Accuracy control and Transform Air at a combo just like how you can use Electrical Bolts and Greater Casting of the Thunderous Chain as a combo. It makes no sense to not be able to use Accuracy Control to buff the accuracy of your own attacks.
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Luis_Sera89 still has no means to defend against Accuracy Control + Transform Air turning the air around him into acid. He'll be dead before having a chance to cast a spell to defend against it especially if he is still in the middle of attempting to kill me with another spell.
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I also want to point out that Abjuration of Conjuration does not prevent me from using Gods' Evocation. He can unsummon them with Abjuration of Conjuration but that may be after they've already done their work like clear the weather or lightning rod in attacks.
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Maybe a giant Lightning Rod Rhyperior or a Groudon that will clear the skies or something like that. Having the summon power of the Gods doesn't really place much of a restriction on what I can summon. Offensively, maybe I can summon an orbital laser out of the range of Abjuration of Conjuration and use it for cover fire.
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What the internet tells me about Evocation is that it partains to beings with identities, like spirits, angels or demons. So it probably doesn't entail lasers, even if you could just find a substitute demon or something.
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Luis hexes TRE, and ooze starts to pour out of his body, while TRE summons a godly evocation. Both sorcerers suddenly find themselves too busy dealing with their opponent's machination to make any additional attempt to win the duel.
TRE desperately attempts to prevent his body from turning to sludge. Transforming the air won't exactly help, he can't conjure any fortifications that will protect him from a hex, and it would be too late for accuracy control if it were even possible to prevent this kind of attack. His only hope at this point is to freeze himself with Cold Beam to stop the oozification, and hope that Luis succumbs to the might of his godly avatar.
Luis summons a defensive conjuration of his own, which lasts for about point-two seconds against the wrath of the behemoth. Fortunately, point-two seconds is as long as he needs to cast a great, thunderous chain to the beast, leashing it to the ground for now. As great and thunderous as it may be, this is a temporary solution at best. He casts Electrical Bolts at it, followed by a Rain of Lava and Disappearance, but the creature appears to be impervious to both and he only succeeds in weakening his chain. As the creature begins to come free, Luis curses it to be stuck in a thick web of brambles coated in razor-sharp thorns and that emit a secretion that slows the actions of potential opposition or prey. It appears to be sufficiently subdued to get back to...
Having used all this spells but one, Luis is concerned, until he turns around and sees a block of frozen TRE. He laughs and walks up to the icy statue. A sharp kick to the chest, which he hopes would shatter TRE only manages to hurt his foot. He frowns, but walks away unfettered. The gauntlet of annihilation is a dangerous place in its own regard. He'll use his Alter Breathing to ensure he escapes for any attackers, and leave TRE to be victimized by the inevitable beasties that will defend with nightfall. By the time he thaws, he will have no chance...assuming that the Perfected Hex of Ooze even wears off...I mean, c'mon, it's *perfected*.
Conjurations aren't the same thing as evocations. And even if summoning was included within your evocation, Luis's Abjuration of Conjuration nullifies them anyway.
Luis.
Breathing Alteration completely counters that Transform Air tactic. At that point it's basically the Gods' Evocation spells, backed by Accuracy Control, versus the rest of Luis's lineup, but Luis's debuffs give him the edge.
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How does Breathing Alteration counter Transform Air? He doesn't need to breathe to die if I turn the air in his lungs to acid or all the air around him to acid.
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From: Team Rocket Elite | #028 How does Breathing Alteration counter Transform Air? He doesn't need to breathe to die if I turn the air in his lungs to acid or all the air around him to acid.
Required Secondary Powers! He can use Breathing Alteration to make himself capable of breathing in acid, which as a side-effect requires him also being immune to its effects.
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Makes his lungs immune I can see. I don't buy absolute full immunity. Things that can breathe air can still be hurt by air. Things that can breathe in water can still be hurt by water.
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From: Team Rocket Elite | #030 Makes his lungs immune I can see. I don't buy absolute full immunity. Things that can breathe air can still be hurt by air. Things that can breathe in water can still be hurt by water.
I'm not sure I get your argument there. I mean, I can't think of any situation where a fish could be hurt by water, mostly because water doesn't exactly have any intrinsically harmful properties. So it doesn't seem comparable.
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I can still use my Invocation of Slay Annihilators spell. It is an instant kill against annihilators, or people who are trying to annihilate me. A person with a spell like Rain of Lava and Disappearance which obliterates the target and causes them to completely disappear should count.
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Breathing Alteration is pretty broad. It alters the way someone breathes, whether that's how and what they breathe, or whether they can at all. Although those two options may end up being one and the same ultimately anyway.
Generally I imagined the two electrical spells stacking with each other. Electrical Bolts was the base, the Greater spell makes them more powerful and allows it to chain. In something like Castlevania, chain lightning is a bunch of arcing shots that cover a wide area. Which is why I don't seem them missing as terribly likely, even with accuracy hax.
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Hmm, I don't interpret disappearance as identical to 'it obliterates the victim'. I thought that it would just make the lava invisible.
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Rain of Lava and Disappearance sounds like it rains lava that wipes things for existence or makes them disappear to me. If Breathing Alteration can be interpreted to give you acid immunity, I don't think it's a stretch to see Rain of Lava and Disappearance like this. Invisible lava wouldn't be a disappearance since it was already invisible and it already affects a large area so being invisible isn't that useful.
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From: Team Rocket Elite | #035 Rain of Lava and Disappearance sounds like it rains lava that wipes things for existence or makes them disappear to me. If Breathing Alteration can be interpreted to give you acid immunity, I don't think it's a stretch to see Rain of Lava and Disappearance like this. Invisible lava wouldn't be a disappearance since it was already invisible and it already affects a large area so being invisible isn't that useful.
I don't think it's a stretch either, but it's not my particular interpretation. Also, was a 20 minute bump really needed?
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I don't think it's a stretch either, but it's not my particular interpretation.
Alright.
Also, was a 20 minute bump really needed?
These topics always get bumped more when one of the competitors gets desperate. >_> I'm probably done here though since I don't think I'll be able to make a comeback.
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Honestly, there's only two reasons I don't bump this every few minutes. First is that would choke the topic in my bumps, rather defeating the purpose, and of course I've been working on a couple of my projects that aren't likely to go anywhere, but what the hey.
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