Board 8 > Skyward Sword has been the first Zelda I've been seriously disappointed with.

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Liquid Wind
12/28/11 4:17:00 PM
#51:


LIES

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PartOfYourWorld
12/28/11 4:20:00 PM
#52:


I was sold on Ghirahim when I noticed the very "flamboyant" way he walked toward Link during the first boss fight.

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Liquid Wind
12/28/11 4:21:00 PM
#53:


I was actually more skeptical because of that, androgynous japanese villains are a dime a dozen, but ghirahim turned out alright
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PartOfYourWorld
12/28/11 4:23:00 PM
#54:


I've never seen them used in Zelda, though I don't know much about Vaati so he might fit the mold.

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__Smurf__
12/28/11 4:25:00 PM
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From: XIII_rocks | #044
Smurf back to troll again it seems


Grow up.

From: foolmor0n | #047
This is the most pessimistic viewpoint I have ever seen about anything


Thats just the focus the game has been showing me so far. It's not like Nintendo doesn't have form in the department of centering a games design around a new technology (in this case motion plus). Do you not get that vibe?

Although again I'm pretty early into the game so I'm sure everything is more tutorially right now than it will be. I'm hoping the game immersion will kick in at some point.

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__Smurf__
12/28/11 4:26:00 PM
#56:


Incidentally whats with the giant lip design on half of these characters?

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XIII_rocks
12/28/11 4:26:00 PM
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From: __Smurf__ | #055
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Grow up.


But you made me nostalgia!

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whatisurnameplz
12/28/11 4:48:00 PM
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From: __Smurf__ | #001
Why create a mechanic to purposely discourage you from using your shield?


Because in early games you could just defend then attack. Way too easy. Granted, you can also do that in Skyward Sword, but it requires a certain degree of skill this time, meaning that you are rewarded for your skill.

Heck, you don't even need your shield for most of the game. Going back to the town each time you lose your shield is a waste of time.

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SHINE GET 64
12/28/11 4:57:00 PM
#59:


it's funny because my friend just finished the 2nd dungeon this morning and he's already calling it his favorite Zelda of all time


and he's not even to good parts yet!

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GuessMyUserName
12/28/11 5:12:00 PM
#60:


did Smurf just call Ghirahim a dark and mysterious guy


haha whaaat, Ghirahim is all about being incredibly flamboyant.

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Lightning Strikes
12/28/11 5:15:00 PM
#61:


Liquid Wind posted...
LIES

groose gets all the best lines.


I originally said except for Groose but thought that was rambling.

Well, the two of them get the best lines, but Ghirahim gets more.

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__Smurf__
12/29/11 3:18:00 AM
#62:


He's wearing a cape, he's clearly "dark and mysterious" with a troubled background.

Nothing stopping him from being flamboyantly mysterious!

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htaeD
12/29/11 3:29:00 AM
#63:


not liking the first boss whatisthis

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neonreap
12/29/11 10:36:00 AM
#64:


the first boss was OK, but I'm not sure why people are going nuts over him. I also don't agree that he seemed like a mini-boss.

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baron von toast
12/29/11 11:18:00 AM
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From: __Smurf__ | #062
He's wearing a cape, he's clearly "dark and mysterious" with a troubled background.


I think I see your problem. You're making a bunch of negative snap judgments about the game, and they're all wrong, either because you're bad at the game or you think you're more genre savvy than you really are.

Does the Zelda series even do tortured villains? Ganondorf tried to play the sympathy card in Wind Waker, but we all know he's just a dick. And Zant was just kind of crazy.

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__Smurf__
12/29/11 11:29:00 AM
#66:


When you've only played the game for about 5 hours its difficult to make judgments concrete enough to be described as anything but "snap".

Also the part you quoted was a pretty blatant joke, shockingly I don't think that about everyone in a cape. *rolls eyes*

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QuinticWarrior
12/29/11 11:33:00 AM
#67:


Lol smorf ur rong such a troll lol

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__Smurf__
12/29/11 12:43:00 PM
#68:


i no rite

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pjbasis
12/29/11 12:53:00 PM
#69:


They could have made the stamina meter not apply to running on level ground.

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Lightning Strikes
12/29/11 3:11:00 PM
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pjbasis posted...
They could have made the stamina meter not apply to running on level ground.

Would make the silent realm parts a bit easy.

Also Smurf, you clearly based your perception of Ghirahim on one look at the cape, since you managed to peg him as exactly the opposite character to what he actually is.

I mean, how does somebody who introduces himself like this:
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Come across as anything like Vincent Valentine?

And that's just his intro scene. He has some amazing moments late game that really show his over the top flamboyancy and craziness.

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__Smurf__
12/29/11 3:17:00 PM
#71:


Vincent Valentine in the sense of being a vague undefined character with their design favouring fan service over any sort of relevant appearance to the plot. I never called him sullen or brooding, just a transparent attempt to be an "edgy" character. I took an instant dislike to him because of this, he strikes me as someone who belongs in Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World. Zelda never really went in for the cookie cutter characters like that.

A lot of people seem very into this guy judging by the reactions in this thread so I guess it worked. Or maybe he turns into something worthwhile later on, guess I'll find out.

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PartOfYourWorld
12/29/11 3:19:00 PM
#72:


I'd really like a definition of "fan service" if Ghirahim is an apparent example.

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foolm0ron
12/29/11 3:27:00 PM
#73:


Ghirahim is a chick btw

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Lightning Strikes
12/29/11 3:54:00 PM
#74:


Hint: you're still very off as to what Ghirahim is, and why people like him.

Seriously, cookie cutter? He's pretty bleeding unique.

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GuessMyUserName
12/29/11 3:57:00 PM
#75:


From: __Smurf__ | Posted: 12/29/2011 6:17:26 PM | #071
attempt to be an "edgy" character


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Ghirahim


Ghirahim is edgy


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Ghirahim

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foolm0ron
12/29/11 4:01:00 PM
#76:


well all his attacks are diamond shaped

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