(possibly offensive, though that's only if you actually watch the video, and it doesn't autoplay so you're fine)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2080702/Horror-U-S-soldiers-blow-dog-Iraq-film-it.html
I always laugh when people preach about supporting the troops, when they don't know about a good deal of what some of our troops are actually doing overseas. They are on record murdering entire families for fun, raping children for days with objects soaked in battery acid (true story), and there are literally hundreds of videos of our troops killing animals for fun. Remember the video where our military threw a puppy off a cliff and laughed about it, then so-called conservative groups tried saying the video was fake? Remember when Rush Limbaugh came out after the torture images from Abu-Ghraib and guys like Rush Limbaugh (a draft dodger) said they were just blowing off some steam? Yeah, because everyone rapes and tortures and murders 4 year-olds in front of their parents to blow of some steam.
Not that you'll ever see this stuff in United States news (notice the .uk in the link) of course, since the USA is basically 1984 these days, but I assure you this stuff is being reported on all over the rest of the world and we are correctly seen as butchers, occupiers and empire-builders because of it.
Oh and the number 1 job these psychopaths get when their military contract is finally over? Police officer. It's not all of our troops doing this, of course, but a good deal of them are absolute raving lunatics out of the pit of hell itself and deserve to get thrown into prison for their war crimes. Some of them seriously paint 666 on their armored cars and drive around cities shooting up the locals for fun. I don't even remember why we went to the Middle East in the first place, though I suspect it has to do with the Israeli Lobby dictating a majority of American foreign policy.
For the foreign users here: Does this stuff regularly show up in the news in your country? We hardly ever see it in the USA, because we're led to believe our troops can do no wrong.
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Board 8 > Did anyone ever make a topic about US troops blowing up a dog for fun in Iraq?
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Rad Link 5 01/05/12 9:04:00 PM #2: |
I remember when they threw a puppy off a cliff and recorded it, and it ended up on YouTube.
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saveus_Maria 01/05/12 9:04:00 PM #3: |
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PartOfYourWorld 01/05/12 9:05:00 PM #4: |
Knew about it. Wanted to make a topic but decided not to. Either way, not surprised. Most American troops enlist right out of high school, don't they? I wasn't terribly mature at that age, and I was smarter and more mature than the average 18-year-old, who is probably smarter and more mature than the average 18-year-old who enlists.
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Mortibody 01/05/12 9:09:00 PM #7: |
All the more reason to cut our bloated defense budget. People like this get paid to go overseas and terrorize the world while Americans back home are out of work or forced to scrape by on next to nothing.
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PartOfYourWorld 01/05/12 9:13:00 PM #9: |
From: UltimaterializerX | #006 I don't think anyone would care about this. Your average Iraqi family has at least one person who has been killed or injured by this war. Who would care about a dog if your sister was killed. -- Yoblazer: http://oi53.tinypic.com/2hd0dh1.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 01/05/12 9:15:00 PM #10: |
From: UItimaterializer | Posted: 1/6/2012 12:00:52 AM | #001 O_O -- http://gamercards.exophase.com/54552.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 01/05/12 9:15:00 PM #11: |
It's a shame how strong US Troop Hero Worship Propaganda is in this country. These guys won't even get slapped on the wrist.
Earlier this month, video that appeared to show US soldiers in Iraq beating a sheep to death with a baseball bat emerged. Man, people need to grow up. Who does stuff like this for fun? -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9458/daigohair.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeathChicken 01/05/12 9:18:00 PM #12: |
I guess when a war drags on for *ten years*, the guys in charge probably stop caring about troop discipline
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PartOfYourWorld 01/05/12 9:20:00 PM #13: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #011 Hyper aggressive males who have been indoctrinated and trained for violence. I'm sure it's even worse in countries with less disciplined militaries. -- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PartOfYourWorld 01/05/12 9:23:00 PM #14: |
From: NioraptH | #008 I believe it. For all the talk about our part of the world being repressive and not free, our news has some serious balls. If only the average American knew what their news organizations - the largest and best funded in the world - were concealing from them. Might give us a little more perspective as to why the rest of the world doesn't love us as much as we'd like. -- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... SuperNiceDog own me... in the Guru! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Celtic Guardian 7 01/05/12 9:24:00 PM #15: |
Man, that's disgusting. Gives a bad name to the troops who wouldn't do anything like that, either. My stepfather's son was over there and he'd be appalled to see anyone doing that.
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Rad Link 5 01/05/12 9:29:00 PM #16: |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #013 Well yeah, I know that. It was a rhetorical question to show my disdain for that kind of callous behavior. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i56.tinypic.com/2enwxo0.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fortybelowsummer 01/05/12 9:32:00 PM #17: |
I live in a huge military town (Colorado Springs) and it's like blasphemy to say anything negative about our troops. It's un-American and ungrateful to say that they're anything but heroes. I do respect a lot of military people, especially Air Force, because many are in it for the right reasons. But there's also a good percentage that are just terrible people, and will continue to be terrible people because they're put on a pedestal and have some sense of entitlement.
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LordoftheMorons 01/05/12 9:32:00 PM #18: |
I never really understood the whole hero worship of the troops in general. Some troops are heroes, sure, but enlisting alone isn't a sufficient criterion for earning my respect. There are a nontrivial amount of people that enlist because it's an excuse for violence; these are such troops.
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ExThaNemesis 01/05/12 9:33:00 PM #19: |
And of course the typical American rhetoric about this would be SUPPORT DA TROOPS OR GIT OUT
F***ing imbeciles. I hate the way this culture glorifies these people who, when you think about it, are getting paid to do a job. Why do we have to make heroes out of them? They aren't fighting for our freedoms, they're fighting for a paycheck. They have CHOSEN to perform a job that has a higher risk, yes, but the government will make it worth their while in the end. I support the troops with my tax dollars and that's about f***ing it. They get enough glorification from everywhere else that it makes me sick. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 01/05/12 9:34:00 PM #20: |
And it makes me so conflicted when great people like Swift enlist, because I want to be supportive of him and everything he does coz he's my best friend.
But he's in a group that are getting treated like heroes that need to be worshipped and it's like, I don't think they deserve to be worshipped. I respect the hell out of Swift for taking a job like that, but it doesn't make him a hero. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SanityLapse 01/05/12 9:41:00 PM #21: |
Maybe I missed something, but did it actually give proof that they blew up the dog for fun?
The video only seemed to indicate that they knew a bomb was there. It just seems like the dog wandered to a bomb that wasn't intended for it, whether they set it, or were going to disable it. Of course I know plenty of soldiers would do that for fun, this particular case doesn't seem quite as obvious as the article is trying to convince. -- http://kotti.wippiespace.com/survivor/datass2.gif http://k.minus.com/iPW9IQyaukmTA.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 01/05/12 9:42:00 PM #22: |
From: LordoftheMorons | #018 Propaganda. You think recruitment rates would be as high as they are if being a soldier didn't make you an instant hero? Or worse, if it meant you were seen as a bloodthirsty killer who blows up puppies? Then there's the fact that it makes it harder for people to criticize military operations since you have to be careful not to say anything about the heroes overseas. There's just a lot of reasons why the government has fostered this image of our military as heroes who you should never ever say anything bad about. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i54.tinypic.com/2ib126v.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 01/05/12 9:44:00 PM #23: |
American military
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Rad Link 5 01/05/12 9:44:00 PM #24: |
From: SanityLapse | #021 If you have your volume on while you're watch it, you'll hear the one guy start excitedly saying "It's a doggy! A doggy! A doggy!" and then later that same guy starts laughing hysterically when he gets blown up, and says "Yeahhh! We smoked that mother ****er!" -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i54.tinypic.com/eajnl2.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RayDyn 01/05/12 9:48:00 PM #25: |
The main issue is that 90% if not more of the people enlisted or commissioned in the military don't do s*** like this, but that other 10%... And it's unlikely they will get off Scott free, at least not in the Corps, not sure about the Army. Also, having served in the military, I can say that the hero worship for military personnel is out of hand in this country, it's just a job, appreciation is nice and all, but we're all human.
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ExThaNemesis 01/05/12 9:50:00 PM #26: |
From: RayDyn | #025 Thank you for being realistic. Know that what I said in this topic seems kind of vitriolic, I try REALLY HARD not to be overtly negative toward the troops in general because that's unfair. It's just extremely difficult with the way the country worships them and the desire to try and combat that with negativity is very high. I am glad there are vets like you that are realistic. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SanityLapse 01/05/12 9:52:00 PM #27: |
Rad Link 5 posted...
If you have your volume on while you're watch it, you'll hear the one guy start excitedly saying "It's a doggy! A doggy! A doggy!" and then later that same guy starts laughing hysterically when he gets blown up, and says "Yeahhh! We smoked that mother ****er!" Well no doubt they were amused by it. I'm sure they get quite bored out there. Although saying "We smoked that" could still just mean it was only their bomb, but that the dog still wasn't the intended target. Unless of course it was a remote bomb, and they activated it for the dog. But I guess we'll never know. -- http://kotti.wippiespace.com/survivor/datass2.gif http://k.minus.com/iPW9IQyaukmTA.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 01/05/12 9:52:00 PM #28: |
Yeah, I hate the blind "support the troops" mentality that a lot of people have. They say "we'd be in big trouble without them" but in what way is that true? If anything I think we're in worse trouble with a lot of them.
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ExThaNemesis 01/05/12 9:54:00 PM #29: |
From: MarvelousGerbil | #028 Well in the way that if we suddenly had no military, China would come in and take us over. >.> -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CherryCokes 01/05/12 9:54:00 PM #30: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #002 I remember this :( -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSOC87NkmXc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 01/05/12 9:59:00 PM #31: |
A select portion of a group of people do something terrible.
They must all be awful. -- Xbox GT: PrivateBiscuit1 Down with Zhang. Let there be Biscuit! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarvelousGerbil 01/05/12 10:00:00 PM #32: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
From: MarvelousGerbil | #028 They say "we'd be in big trouble without them" but in what way is that true? Well in the way that if we suddenly had no military, China would come in and take us over. >.> Well sure, but I don't think we'd be in big trouble without half the people with have in the Middle East being there. -- http://i.imgur.com/6XjQR.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 01/05/12 10:00:00 PM #33: |
From: RayDyn | #025 Well yeah, I wouldn't want it to swing in the opposite direction either and have everyone believe that all members of the military are terrible people who kill for enjoyment rather than employment. I'd just like a nice, even, reasonable opinion of them. From: SanityLapse | #027 You're sort of stretching the envelope here. While that's entirely possible, "We smoked that mother ****er" makes it being intentional seem far more likely. And either way, I find their level of amusement towards the whole thing disgusting. "They get quite bored out there" sounds more like a joke than an excuse as far as I'm concerned. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i55.tinypic.com/2mcnjl.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 01/05/12 10:00:00 PM #34: |
From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #031 Exactly. This is exactly what we said. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GANON1025 01/05/12 10:02:00 PM #35: |
it makes you think ........ who are the REAL terrorists
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Naomi_Diamond 01/05/12 10:03:00 PM #36: |
Did PrivateBiscuit even read the topic?
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SanityLapse 01/05/12 10:23:00 PM #37: |
Rad Link 5 posted...
You're sort of stretching the envelope here. While that's entirely possible, "We smoked that mother ****er" makes it being intentional seem far more likely. Probably. Just was pointing out that no one even brought up the idea that it might not have been intentional. And either way, I find their level of amusement towards the whole thing disgusting. "They get quite bored out there" sounds more like a joke than an excuse as far as I'm concerned. Well I accidentally giggled too during the video. But I wouldn't have done that intentionally to the dog. -- http://kotti.wippiespace.com/survivor/datass2.gif http://k.minus.com/iPW9IQyaukmTA.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 01/05/12 10:25:00 PM #39: |
The only thing that would've made this okay is if they had blown up the dog 12 times.
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LordoftheMorons 01/05/12 10:27:00 PM #40: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
A select portion of a group of people do something terrible. They must all be awful. I don't think anyone here is saying that soldiers are uniformly awful; what we are saying is that the hero-worship of the military is unwarranted. -- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Bombadil 01/05/12 10:31:00 PM #41: |
From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 1/5/2012 11:33:04 PM | #019 not really no -- You just got TOMBOLOWNED except for krahenprophet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 01/05/12 10:31:00 PM #42: |
From: Tom Bombadil | #041 we must value benefits for you and your whole family and a free education differently, then. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SanityLapse 01/05/12 10:34:00 PM #43: |
See what I mean about how the American media brainwashes people?
Well sure, but there are enough contradicting articles that it balances out in some ways at least. So we get plenty that call soldiers heroes no matter what, and then we have something like this that just assumes the soldiers planned to do it, making them the villains. As long as we keep trying to find all angles to a story, especially playing devil's advocate with ourselves even when we disagree with our own opinion, it will allow us to be a bit more open minded. -- http://kotti.wippiespace.com/survivor/datass2.gif http://k.minus.com/iPW9IQyaukmTA.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 01/05/12 10:38:00 PM #44: |
It doesn't say as far as I can tell, but I'm going to guess that the soldiers were army and not marines or any other branch of armed forces. From everything I've heard, the army is so much less disciplined than everyone else in pretty much every way imaginable.
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SHINE GET 64 01/05/12 10:39:00 PM #45: |
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masterplum 01/05/12 10:44:00 PM #46: |
I have two good friends in the military. The people in this topic who are completely bashing soldiers as a whole appals me.
This story reminds me of the Catholic priest child abuse cases. There are probably plenty of civilians who do things like this but its not reported because its not news worthy. When soldiers do things like this its a big deal. Some people in some group did something horrible. That happens all the time in all groups with no exceptions. -- yE frE me Kweku Ananse Papa me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 01/05/12 10:48:00 PM #47: |
From: masterplum | #046 Yeah I agree, everyone in this topic who did that should be ashamed. You know, all zero of you. Also the writing in your post as a whole appalls me. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 01/05/12 11:31:00 PM #48: |
From: SanityLapse | #043 You are making it out as if a rational person would not watch that video and assume the soldiers did it on purpose. From: masterplum | #046 My uncle is a proud veteran and I have friends in various divisions of the military too, but keep riding your moral high horse. I just can't believe people are completely bashing soldiers as a whole. Although that might be because I actually read the topic and saw that no one did. (Other than maybe Raka, but that's person, not people.) Why are people so quick to point out how many soldiers they know? There are probably plenty of civilians who do things like this but its not reported because its not news worthy. When soldiers do things like this its a big deal. Ahahaha, man you must never watch the news or read the news or listen to the news. This is so backwards. No, an animal can't get mutilated or killed in some other horrible fashion without it making the news. But then something like this happens, or with the thing with the sheep, and I've yet to see mention of either anywhere on TV or in my paper. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i56.tinypic.com/25ja6gz.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin_Crossing 01/05/12 11:33:00 PM #49: |
I don't watch the news much but everyone in Canada finds out one way or another.
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frankftw 01/06/12 12:28:00 AM #50: |
I think the hero worship is a hold out from when the number of soldiers actually on the front lines and the mortality rate were much higher. And of course this comes down to generalizations and how you would go about defining 'hero', whether it's doing something heroic (which could certainly be as simple as serving in the military) or possessing a particular skill set or mindset.
What Heinlein says about patriotism in this commencement is pretty interesting (keep in mind it's 1973 and he's talking to a graduating class at the Naval Academy): http://imperfectsense.tumblr.com/post/1544719796/in-honor-of-veterans-day-the-pragmatics-of-patriotism -- [witty phrase including the guru champ SuperNiceDog] If there is one thing I know, it is that I know nothing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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