Board 8 > FFXIII-2 demo is amazing.

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Question.
If I download the demo from PSN is it just saved to my PS3 for me to play whenever I want? Or will it go away? I wanna finish FFXIII before I play the demo. And I just got my PS3 and have never downloaded anything from PSN before so I have no clue how it works >__>

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I haven't played many demos, but I still have one on my PS3 that I downloaded like a year ago, so I'm guessing you're fine.

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Yeah, I don't get those who call it boring either. You don't distinctly control everything in battle, but it is not like every system that you guys like needs to be particularly complex. Like, um, Fire Emblem! Outside of battle is a lot more fun in XIII and XIII-2, but it is neat seeing how your actions outside of battle make you stronger in battle.

Biggest improvement for me was the fact that you don't have to see the characters posing after shifting Paradigms.

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I'm not looking for complexity. I just hate watching the FF13 meters go up. I can't defend that given that I like FF7 or other similar games in battle, but there's something about this one -- I think it's the fact that you only control one character -- that just bogs it all down.

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I don't even bother controlling my one character when I play FF13. Micromanaging is useless, you are more like a general, dictating the overall strategy of your forces, rather than controlling a lot of useless actions. It's a lot faster paced as a whole too than any FF battle system because of that lack of pauses.

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... what, is it QTE week? Liked all the systems, though.

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Some demos do expire (The first Sonic Generations demo expired, for example), but they'll explicitly mention that if they do.

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So I beat the demo, and I'm really satisfied.

I liked FFXIII quite a bit, and it looks like XIII-2 actually fixed most of the problems I had with the original, so it should be even better.

- The new Crystarium seems much more interesting, actually allowing real customisation
- It's possible to switch the party leader during battle (which I assume means losing your main character no longer results in a Game Over)
- No more annoying wait on the first paradigm shift.

Story will probably be a trainwreck, but as long as the gameplay is great (and it seems to be), I can easily forgive that.
Looking forward to February 3rd.

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Any good Chocalina fan art yet

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So did anyone try going straight after the giant instead of searching for that crystal to power it down? Thinking of replaying it just to do that, although if it just leads to an unwinnable fight then I won't bother.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
So did anyone try going straight after the giant instead of searching for that crystal to power it down? Thinking of replaying it just to do that, although if it just leads to an unwinnable fight then I won't bother.

I did that, and before your QTE bar fills he 1 hits the whole party.

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Wouldn't be the first time a Final Fantasy game was bested by its direct sequel.

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Only played the boss fight and I'm hooked. I don't really want to complete the whole thing because I'll just have to do it again when I I get the game. Unless the point of creating that save file was so you wouldn't have to... but I thought we started at Chapter 2 so I don't get it. Plays great. Can't wait for GotY.

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Icehawk posted...
I dont get how someone can call it "boring". if you like JRPGs at all, this is clearly one of the best battle systems ever. much better than say, Lost Odyssey.

I don't think so. I've been a longtime fan of JRPGs, and I don't have much in the way of praise for XIII or XIII-2's battle system. They aren't my thing at all. The battle system may be fast, and it might be flashy, but it isn't engaging. I've always said that XIII would have been better as a full on action RPG instead of the weird hybrid it ended up as, and I think that holds true for XIII-2 more than ever. I just don't feel involved in what happens in battles. I could describe it as "soulless" and "lifeless," but I'll just say that it isn't personally for me. It extends beyond the battle system, too. It's the whole package.

I'm a big fan of turn-based battles -- Dragon Quest, Lost Odyssey, Persona, Shadow Hearts -- and that's just not what this is. It doesn't need to be in order to be good, because I've liked previous FF games just fine, and they aren't strict turn-based affairs, but XIII/XIII-2 don't do it for me. I'll gladly sacrifice the speed and flash for a set of simple but interesting mechanics.

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13 and 13-2 might be pretty solid as action RPGs, I agree. seems like it has a lot of that infrastructure set up anyway.

From: ZFS | #066
I don't think so. I've been a longtime fan of JRPGs, and I don't have much in the way of praise for XIII or XIII-2's battle system. They aren't my thing at all. The battle system may be fast, and it might be flashy, but it isn't engaging. I've always said that XIII would have been better as a full on action RPG instead of the weird hybrid it ended up as, and I think that holds true for XIII-2 more than ever. I just don't feel involved in what happens in battles. I could describe it as "soulless" and "lifeless," but I'll just say that it isn't personally for me. It extends beyond the battle system, too. It's the whole package.

I'm a big fan of turn-based battles -- Dragon Quest, Lost Odyssey, Persona, Shadow Hearts -- and that's just not what this is. It doesn't need to be in order to be good, because I've liked previous FF games just fine, and they aren't strict turn-based affairs, but XIII/XIII-2 don't do it for me. I'll gladly sacrifice the speed and flash for a set of simple but interesting mechanics.

Frankly, all 13-2 is is is the culmination of their design philosophy. Theyve been on a bent towards this path for a very long time,, they just finally got there.

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From: edwardsdv | #068
all 13-2 is is is

Man if only you could actually have 3 is's in a row like that and have the sentence still make sense

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Look at all these old farts not being able to keep up with the fast jRPGs.

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