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14_and_counting
01/10/12 10:51:00 PM
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swirIdude
01/10/12 10:52:00 PM
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JD over Kelso, otherwise this is shockingly accurate.

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14_and_counting
01/10/12 10:53:00 PM
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From: swirIdude | #002
JD over Kelso, otherwise this is shockingly accurate.




Hardest one for me to do.


JD has more great moments, but I think Kelso's best moments are somewhat above JD's.

I would be ok with going JD=Kelso, but that seems like a cop out.

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Weakupedia
01/10/12 10:54:00 PM
#4:


this is perfect

except not enough >'s between elliot and carla

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WickIebee
01/10/12 10:56:00 PM
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Fact, JD belongs below Kelso for leaving. Kelso stayed behind, but JD had a full plan of leaving...

I think Kelso was still there in the one finale, don't remember now. Haven't seen the show in a while now.

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14_and_counting
01/10/12 10:56:00 PM
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From: Weakupedia | #004
this is perfect

except not enough >'s between elliot and carla




My original post actually had Elliot>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Carla, but I decided to not be obnoxious about it, and just get the point across that I thought she was superior.

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14_and_counting
01/10/12 10:58:00 PM
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From: WickIebee | #005
Fact, JD belongs below Kelso for leaving. Kelso stayed behind, but JD had a full plan of leaving...

I think Kelso was still there in the one finale, don't remember now. Haven't seen the show in a while now.




Kelso and JD both left, hell, at the same time at that. Also, this is not saying caliber of characters (if so, JD is over everyone, and Janitor is probably at the bottom (some legit evil moments, though hilarious), this is how great they were on the show.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 10:59:00 PM
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I'm fine with that ranking. As long as Cox is on top and Carla at the bottom, with Elliot below everyone else, then it's perfect. Janitor, Turk, Kelso, and JD are all extremely high quality and difficult to rank.

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01/10/12 11:03:00 PM
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Jordan above or below Elliot?

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:05:00 PM
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From: MarvelousGerbil | #009
Jordan above or below Elliot?


That's a tough one, they both have some good moments and then they both have some terrible moments.

I think just because of season 8 Elliot... I might actually put her above Jordan.

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AlecTrevelyan006
01/10/12 11:06:00 PM
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From: MarvelousGerbil | #009
Jordan above or below Elliot?


I find Jordan more frustrating than most people it seems.

In early seasons she was a relevant character, but then in later seasons where they just said "yeah let's make her a useless bimbo"

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:07:00 PM
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Yeah, Jordan is one of those characters who got worse as the show went along. Her and Dr. Cox actually having a stable relationship was bad for her character...!

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Rad Link 5
01/10/12 11:10:00 PM
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I'd put Kelso up two spots, and probably more greater than signs between Elliot and Carla than can fit in topic titles, but otherwise I agree, shockingly.

No idea where Jordan goes in relation to Elliot. Gut reaction was above, but the more I think about it, the less I like that placement.

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StealThisSheen
01/10/12 11:12:00 PM
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Jordan's easily above Elliot. Elliot's sheer number of terrible moments are too glaring.



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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:12:00 PM
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Yeah but I feel like season 8 Elliot makes up for all of her terrible moments. She was just that good in season 8.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:13:00 PM
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To me, Elliot was only really bad when she became private practice and was in a relationship with Keith.

Granted, that was a long stretch of time and her worst moments are as bad as they get, but I like Elliot through the first 4-5 seasons.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:16:00 PM
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I think Elliot was at her worst in the first few seasons. She was just annoying. When she went into private practice and got more confident, she was less annoying, but she still had several terrible moments. And she somehow became an extreme hypocrite. And also out of nowhere adopted a "I'm better than everyone and no one helped me get where I am today" attitude. Like wtf was up with that.

However, aside from all that crap, she was sometimes a good character. Season 7 was probably when she got better. And then season 8 she was pretty awesome.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:17:00 PM
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From: ShadowHalo17 | #017
And she somehow became an extreme hypocrite. And also out of nowhere adopted a "I'm better than everyone and no one helped me get where I am today" attitude.


And that's what makes her worst moments the worst, especially in her interactions with Dr. Cox.

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Rad Link 5
01/10/12 11:19:00 PM
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Weird; I love Elliot in the first few seasons. Well actually I guess I love the first few seasons in general more than most people, but still.

Elliot just never annoyed me that much. Nor did Jordan. They both annoyed me, sure, but not that much.

Carla, though...

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:20:00 PM
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From: LeonhartFour | #018
And that's what makes her worst moments the worst, especially in her interactions with Dr. Cox.



Indeed, I'm not disagreeing with that. She definitely has more worse moments than Jordan. But she also has better great moments. And at least Elliot remained more relevant throughout the series.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:22:00 PM
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From: Rad Link 5 | #019
Elliot just never annoyed me that much. Nor did Jordan. They both annoyed me, sure, but not that much.

Carla, though...


For real.

I find it weird that the "voice of reason" character is one of the most irrational ones. That scene with her and JD on the bus from season 1... the worst.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:22:00 PM
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From: ShadowHalo17 | #021
That scene with her and JD on the bus from season 1... the worst.


Can't stand that scene.

LOL I can be irrational because I'm a woman

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ExThaNemesis
01/10/12 11:24:00 PM
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I personally put JD above everyone but Cox, but I certainly won't argue with this ranking.

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Forceful_Dragon
01/10/12 11:24:00 PM
#24:


This is very close to accurate. I would have JD higher and Turk lower I think, but it's very close.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:25:00 PM
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Honestly, you put the top 5 in any order, and I have a hard time arguing against it, even if I personally disagree.

They're all pretty great.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:26:00 PM
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I think I would probably put JD > Turk > Kelso > Janitor...

I can't be certain though. I just want to go the cop out route and put some equal signs in there.

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ExThaNemesis
01/10/12 11:27:00 PM
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Scrubs > Everything is another inequality that I think most of us can agree with.

I have never ever felt good about rewatching any show aside from this. Usually with me once a show is finished, that's it. But with Scrubs I don't even care. Seeing every episode again is only marginally lesser than the first time I saw them.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:28:00 PM
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I rewatch episodes of shows all the time. But Scrubs is definitely the show I've watched through the most. Best TV show of the forever.

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Rad Link 5
01/10/12 11:28:00 PM
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I feel almost bad that we're all agreeing the top five can be in any order so long as it's just the guys, but damn they just cannot write women.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:30:00 PM
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Hey, there were some good women on the show from time to time.

They just...weren't regulars.

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Forceful_Dragon
01/10/12 11:30:00 PM
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From: ShadowHalo17 | #028
I rewatch episodes of shows all the time. But Scrubs is definitely the show I've watched through the most. Best TV show of the forever.




In terms of live action shows I might actually give the nod to Friends here. Anri will probably back me up if he reads this too, Friends is just so incredibly re-watchable. (Most seasons, anyways)

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Forceful_Dragon
01/10/12 11:31:00 PM
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From: LeonhartFour | #030
Hey, there were some good women on the show from time to time.

They just...weren't regulars.


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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:32:00 PM
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From: Forceful_Dragon | #032
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Yeah, Nurse Shirley wasn't around nearly enough. She was great.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:33:00 PM
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From: Forceful_Dragon | #031
In terms of live action shows I might actually give the nod to Friends here. Anri will probably back me up if he reads this too, Friends is just so incredibly re-watchable. (Most seasons, anyways)



I would have agreed with you on that when I was like 15, which is when all I watched was Friends. But I've developed this pure hate for laugh tracks, so no show that features one will ever be among my top favorite shows.

I mean I still love Friends, but it just doesn't come close to touching Scrubs. Or Parks and Recreation or Community for that matter.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:34:00 PM
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I can't think of any female characters in the show that would come close to being in the ranks of the guys.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:35:00 PM
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Also, Friends, Frasier, and Seinfeld are really good on rewatches to me. Scrubs is the best in terms of re-watchability, but I can watch any episode of any of those shows whenever they come on.

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Rad Link 5
01/10/12 11:36:00 PM
#37:


From: LeonhartFour | #030
Hey, there were some good women on the show from time to time.

They just...weren't regulars.


Maybe we should be taking this as some subliminal message about how the writers see women.

Likable enough from the outside, but once they're a regular part of your life, you start to wish you'd never let things get that far.

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Tehmoosey1
01/10/12 11:36:00 PM
#38:


Molly might've been able to break the top five if she'd stayed on as a regular as planned.

Anyway, that list is scary accurate. Feels uncomfortable completely agreeing with MWC, but that's just how good of a show Scrubs is; it unites everyone.

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ScareChan
01/10/12 11:36:00 PM
#39:


Final Fantasy rankings?

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:37:00 PM
#40:


Bah, Molly got on my nerves a lot.

If she weren't played by Heather Graham, I'd probably outright hate her.

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Forceful_Dragon
01/10/12 11:38:00 PM
#41:


Halo, i could give you Community because I ****ing love community and I guess I'm not familiar enough with Parks and Rec to judge that one, but I guess I just don't agree with Scrubs, on the whole. It is a top tier sitcom, I just don't see it as Friends tier in terms of rewatchability.

I also think it is kind of unfair to hold "laughtrack" against Friends. Friends was shot and produced in an entire different time and things have changed a lot since then. But the inclusion of a laughtrack doesn't exactly change what made Friends good. The same episodes sans laughtrack would still amuse me and make me laugh.


Is it vaguely annoying after we've been spoiled by shows like Community and HIMYM? I suppose. But it's also something that it's much too late to change. You wouldn't hate on an amazing classic movie for being in black and white.

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Rad Link 5
01/10/12 11:41:00 PM
#42:


I've got no problem with "laugh track" shows. Seinfeld is among my favorite shows of all time, and Frasier is right up there. I can and will watch reruns of either whenever I see them on the TV listings.

I loathe Friends, though. Guess that's just me around here.

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Tehmoosey1
01/10/12 11:41:00 PM
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Molly was like a combination of Carla and Elliot's better qualities. Basically Carla's voice of reason with Elliot's general craziness, but with actual consistent writing.

She did seem to win against Cox more often than anyone really had any right to, but they were just introducing a new character.

Oh, and a perfect example of the Scrubs cast not knowing how to write women: that one surgeon chick that became Turk's boss. Might have been the worst character on the show.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:42:00 PM
#44:


Dr. Miller was pretty terrible, yeah.

And she vanished without a trace, to boot.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:44:00 PM
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No I don't hate Friends because of the laugh track, I still love Friends. The laugh track just admittedly brings it down. I notice it more than I did in the past, unfortunately. I honestly don't like the characters in Friends as much as the ones in Scrubs too. Like, Chandler is god tier, Joey is close, Ross is pretty great. Then the three girls... are whatever. Monica and Phoebe are usually good, while sometimes boring, and sometimes terrible. Rachel is always terrible with a few good moments. They just don't come close to the quality of the top five in Scrubs, or Parks and Rec, or Community.

Oh also, Molly was pretty great, I'll give you that one. I loved her.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:46:00 PM
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From: LeonhartFour | #044
Dr. Miller was pretty terrible, yeah.

And she vanished without a trace, to boot.


I always wondered about that... One minute she was there, the next she was gone.

I will agree with her being terrible. Carla shares some blame for making Miller a bad character though.

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ShadowHalo17
01/10/12 11:47:00 PM
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From: Some_Character | #046
The worst Scrubs character was Nina.


But she gave Jordan one of her best moments, so I can't really agree with you there.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/12 11:47:00 PM
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Nah, she was pretty terrible when she accused Turk of being a sexist (when he wasn't being sexist) in a completely sexist manner.

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Some_Character
01/10/12 11:47:00 PM
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The worst Scrubs character was Neena.

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Some_Character
01/10/12 11:49:00 PM
#50:


ShadowHalo17 posted...
From: Some_Character | #046
The worst Scrubs character was Nina.
But she gave Jordan one of her best moments, so I can't really agree with you there.


That one was all Jordan though, not exactly a reason for Neena to not be completely terrible.

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