Board 8 > Homestuck General Discussion: step away from your compuner

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RoxyLalonde
01/17/12 3:43:00 PM
#101:


duh
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tereziWright
01/17/12 3:57:00 PM
#102:


You.

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KimPine
01/17/12 4:05:00 PM
#103:


Thanks for reminding me to check if DirkStrider was taken yet. It wasn't. Now it is.
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GameBopAdv
01/17/12 4:27:00 PM
#104:


I wonder how exactly one gets a Fistkind specibus. Did she captchalogue somebody's hand?

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
01/17/12 4:29:00 PM
#105:


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HeroDelTiempo17
01/17/12 6:15:00 PM
#106:


From: GameBopAdv | #104
I wonder how exactly one gets a Fistkind specibus. Did she captchalogue somebody's hand?


You just have to allocate a blank specibus, obviously. Like how John switched his to Hammer!

Thinking about it, I'm kind of sad that Jane doesn't have a Pastrykind specibus in addition to the one she has.

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ChidoriNoJutsu
01/17/12 7:39:00 PM
#107:


MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE MODUS

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EDumey
01/17/12 7:40:00 PM
#108:


I would read the F*** out of that book.

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Paratroopa1
01/17/12 7:54:00 PM
#109:


There is something about looking at the plot of Complacency of the Learned that makes me feel like I'm looking at something CRUCIALLY F***ING IMPORTANT to Homestuck, but I don't really understand what it means!
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Fallacia
01/17/12 8:01:00 PM
#110:


EDumey posted...

Technically speaking, you already did when you read Hivebent. Hussie himself said ages ago on his formspring that complacency of the learned was Rose subconsciously writing the actual story of how her universe was created (Hivebent), just retold Rose-style with a wizard theme through her subconscious interpretation of the creation of the universe before she ever knew that's what it was. Note how the character on the poster even looks like a hornless and humanized troll.

Reading Roxy's further description based on the depiction in the poster though, I'm thinking the completed work also may include some mix of the creation of her universe as well, especially since a certain line seems to be referencing the sovereign slayer and events surrounding Noire.

"But his apprentice was able to beat him in the wizard's duel by first becoming checkmated, and through some unprecedented enchantment, continuing to play beyond the death of the king."

It could also just be referencing how the troll kids manage to keep on "playing" after their session was already expired.

Also, I think Hussie has decided to move on from getting people worked up about race and wants to start trolling up a battle of the sexes:

It features the androgynous young apprentice, Calmasis, who throughout the series plays the roles of antihero and chief antagonist. S/he convinces fellow disciples to...

Calmasis doesn't really look very androgynous to me, but I imagine that he's intentionally trying to get people to bite on that point to redirected the race argument. "If people are calling my bluff on racially ambiguous characters, then I'll give them androgynous characters that are fictional even in-universe and probably not even relevant to the plot so that they can argue about that."

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Fallacia
01/17/12 8:05:00 PM
#111:


Paratroopa1 posted...
There is something about looking at the plot of Complacency of the Learned that makes me feel like I'm looking at something CRUCIALLY F***ING IMPORTANT to Homestuck, but I don't really understand what it means!

It is crucially important, just like it was when you read all about it in Hivebent... just without all of the wizards and heavy-handed... okay, I guess Hussie did preserve that as well. Still, there may be a few additions as well that might go on to explain a bit more regarding the alpha and beta universes.

Edit: I suppose we should probably expect that though since the Rose that wrote this one technically grew up in a different universe that may have had some slight differences in its creation, like uranianUmbra.

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LordoftheMorons
01/17/12 8:05:00 PM
#112:


Pretty sure Calmasis is supposed to be UranianUmbra
Look at that "P" in Complacency

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Paratroopa1
01/17/12 8:08:00 PM
#113:


Yeah, UU is what I'm referring to when I feel like there's a really big clue here. It's the P being a caduceus, and the fact that Calmasis is referred to as androgynous. This is a big ol' clue to what's up with UU, I'm certain of it, but I still don't understand it at all.
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LordoftheMorons
01/17/12 8:12:00 PM
#114:


It also says twelve guys are killed (trolls?) Don't know who the Complacency would be then, though, since it would have to be someone on the same side as the trolls.

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/17/12 8:12:00 PM
#115:


The plot of the chess match is obviously a Sburb analogue (after Prospit loses the battle for Skaia, represented by a chess board), the heroes have to continue playing the game after their king is killed by Derse's forces. No idea what the connection to UU is but it's definitely there.

also I'm confused as to who the protagonists are in this book. the guys who are getting murdered and lose? also, since the antagonist, Calmasis represents Prospit (by extension, UU?), the protagonists represent Derse? rose, you so crazy.

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Fallacia
01/17/12 8:14:00 PM
#116:


Yeah, I'm pretty sure the character of Calmasis is supposed to draw a lot of paralels between UU and Karkat. The whole androgynous thing could also even be a way for people to associate both a masculine Karkat and a feminine (guessing) UU.

Then again, as far as we know, this could be hinting at the Homestuck plot pitting the kids from our other universes against the trolls from this set, possibly even including UU as an antagonist. Zazzerpan and Calmasis may have swapped roles depending on which universe the story was written, etc. If it didn't at least have some kind of relevance, it probably wouldn't have gotten this much coverage (especially with the caduceus in the story title) in more than just the usual fashion we get SBAHJ references.

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Viktor Vaughn
01/17/12 8:16:00 PM
#117:


predicant scholar

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Paratroopa1
01/17/12 8:30:00 PM
#118:


It also just occurred to me that CotL could be a massive red herring and it's all just a metajoke about foreshadowing.

wait a minute

Calmasis

CALmasis

AHHHHHHHHHHH
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HeroDelTiempo17
01/17/12 8:31:00 PM
#119:


So obviously Calmasis is UU is Lord English.

sounds legit

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Viktor Vaughn
01/17/12 8:32:00 PM
#120:


uu is medium cal

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ChidoriNoJutsu
01/17/12 8:50:00 PM
#121:


BARKBARKBARKBARKBARK

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/17/12 8:52:00 PM
#122:


Poor, poor, Frigglish, who may or may not also be Jaspers, but most likely is.

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Paratroopa1
01/17/12 8:54:00 PM
#123:


ahahahahahaha just HOW DRUNK do you even have to BE just to WRITE something like that........
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Fallacia
01/17/12 9:15:00 PM
#124:


Oh my, I do enjoy seeing the jibberish that results from the minds of these kids. Bark, Krab, Abrakababra isn't quite as fun as t1k t0k br8k heads honk honk, but it's nice seeing the relevance now.

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RyokIes
01/17/12 9:59:00 PM
#125:


poor poor frigglish

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Nogoodnamesnow
01/17/12 11:07:00 PM
#126:


Oh snap, looks like Andrew is joining the SOPA blackout fray tomorrow.

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Fallacia
01/17/12 11:18:00 PM
#127:


I saw the command tag "Roxy: Black Out" and knew exactly what was coming. I was slightly disappointed when the page loaded and I just thought it was a GIF of her falling over right up until the page switched and I gave a mighty Booyah at the blackout screen. With this one action, I may be willing to forgive Hussie for removing Vriska from the spotlight.

Though it probably would have also been a good idea to put up something like, "oh yeah, boycott anyone associated with the RIAA and MPAA from now on as well sine they're the ones truly responsible for this idiocy." to give people a cause once SOPA fails spectacularly in the face of the Internet fighting back against idiotic laws that don't even do anything to stop pirates, but only inconveniences legitimate users.

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tereziWright
01/17/12 11:53:00 PM
#128:


I feel like someone posted the Homestuck 4E rulebook and I missed it in a topic purge.

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SovietOmega
01/18/12 2:04:00 PM
#129:


external image

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Altimadark
01/19/12 12:30:00 PM
#130:


Totally called a "BARK" code.... last topic... which has already purged...

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Ah well, moving on.

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BonetaiI
01/19/12 3:13:00 PM
#131:


I don't know how many of you know I'm entering the Music Contest, but here's my first submission!

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tereziWright
01/19/12 7:49:00 PM
#132:


I like it!

Keep us up to date.

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tereziWright
01/20/12 10:23:00 AM
#133:


I'm starting to think this is gonna be a flash and he used the Blackout as an excuse to buy an extra day.

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Some_Character
01/20/12 10:27:00 AM
#134:


I suspect the same thing. Seems like a good time.

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tereziWright
01/20/12 10:28:00 AM
#135:


I mean, she fell asleep? Maybe some kind of big introduction to Derse thing? We never got a real good look at it like we did Prospit in Descend.

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catastrophy15
01/20/12 11:26:00 AM
#136:


Maybe or it's going to be a weird drunk dream that she's having.

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/20/12 11:58:00 AM
#137:


It's most likely her stumbling through Derse. Maybe a Dirk cameo if he comes to help her.

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tereziWright
01/20/12 12:00:00 PM
#138:


Predictions.

What recent song would be good for Roxy stumbling through Derse?

I would like to think Derse Dreamers.

And the Atomik Ebonpyre section at the end would back up Dirk showing up.

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Nogoodnamesnow
01/20/12 4:28:00 PM
#139:


tereziWright posted...
Predictions.

What recent song would be good for Roxy stumbling through Derse?

I would like to think Derse Dreamers.

And the Atomik Ebonpyre section at the end would back up Dirk showing up.


More like Even in Death, right?

This flash was awesome.

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Some_Character
01/20/12 4:30:00 PM
#140:


Yes it was.

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Nogoodnamesnow
01/20/12 4:33:00 PM
#141:


Also, since I forsee it being mentioned, yes I saw that god tier Karkat too.

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Natwaf_akidna
01/20/12 4:42:00 PM
#142:


Equius? Dave time traveling then.

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JeffreyRaze
01/20/12 4:43:00 PM
#143:


I'm not entirely sure what to think now. That looked like a Skaia made up of all the relevant locations from the two dead sessions. Huh.

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Some_Character
01/20/12 4:44:00 PM
#144:


Also, both the original Hero of Void and Rogue got a close up. Could mean something.

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Lightning Strikes
01/20/12 4:48:00 PM
#145:


...Wow.

So much stuff, but most importantly

Dat God Tier Karkat.

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KimPine
01/20/12 4:51:00 PM
#146:


I'm never any good at these but I took it to mean that the "Void" Dirk was talking about is a place made up of dream bubbles and Roxy was floating through them. This is evidenced by Rose also waking up at the end.

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SSBM_Guy
01/20/12 4:51:00 PM
#147:


That was pretty interesting. Bloody Dirk, God Tier Karkat, Rose being asleep, crazy mashup of Skaia...

Only bad thing was having to see Nepeta again. Gross.

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tcaz2
01/20/12 4:55:00 PM
#148:


I think you mean "YESSSS NEPETA"

More like only bad thing is having to see Equius again but I can deal with that if it means more Nepeta.

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KimPine
01/20/12 4:57:00 PM
#149:


From: SSBM_Guy | #147
That was pretty interesting. Bloody Dirk, God Tier Karkat, Rose being asleep, crazy mashup of Skaia...

Only bad thing was having to see Equius again. Gross.


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Lightning Strikes
01/20/12 4:58:00 PM
#150:


Just for the record, Nepeta (and presumably Equius) had living eyes there. Nepeta was also her dreamself, which could definitely mean something.

May not be dream bubbles at all. Of course, it's hard to say.

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