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Seginustemple 02/23/12 11:56:00 AM #1: |
I'm all pro-choice myself but they both seem like equally invasive procedures...
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Justin_Crossing 02/23/12 11:56:00 AM #2: |
how are they at all comparable
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Menji76 02/23/12 11:57:00 AM #3: |
isn't an ultrasound just rubbing stuff on your belly and then using that thing on it to see inside your belly?
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SlymDayspring 02/23/12 11:58:00 AM #4: |
In what world do women object to forced, unwanted, invasive ultrasounds but not abortions
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Seginustemple 02/23/12 11:59:00 AM #5: |
isn't an ultrasound just rubbing stuff on your belly and then using that thing on it to see inside your belly?
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neonreaper 02/23/12 11:59:00 AM #6: |
Menji76 posted...
isn't an ultrasound just rubbing stuff on your belly and then using that thing on it to see inside your belly? no -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seginustemple 02/23/12 12:02:00 PM #7: |
"Forced" as in accepted as a necessary consequence of choosing to get an abortion, maybe. How is it more invasive than an abortion?
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KingButz 02/23/12 12:03:00 PM #8: |
They aren't forced to do anything. In VA if they want an abortion then they have to get an ultrasound.
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CrimsonOcean 02/23/12 12:03:00 PM #9: |
lol wat
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MoogleKupo141 02/23/12 12:04:00 PM #10: |
Seginustemple posted...
"Forced" as in accepted as a necessary consequence of choosing to get an abortion, maybe. How is it more invasive than an abortion? It's more invasive because it's undesired. The woman wants to have an abortion, she does not want to have a doctor shove a dongle in her arbitrarily. -- For your SuperNiceDog. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cloud and Squall 02/23/12 12:05:00 PM #11: |
I misread this topic at first as "In what world to women not object to ultrasounds but abortions" and was kinda confused.
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AlecTrevelyan006 02/23/12 12:05:00 PM #12: |
You can't do an extraabdominal ultrasound until later in a pregnancy.
Early on you would need to do an vaginal ultrasound. ie penetration with the ultrasound equipment. -- Gamefaqs' #1 Testicle Bettor: Proud owner of many testes http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6553/alec.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hrezs 02/23/12 12:06:00 PM #13: |
Its more 'why the **** do I need an ultrasound to get an abortion'
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JeffreyRaze 02/23/12 12:06:00 PM #14: |
Well, three things.
1: Ultrasounds are bloody expensive. 2: In this case they are utterly unnecessary. 3: If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, they used a much, much more invasive technique. I don't know the specifics, but a vaginal ultrasound is an absurd thing to demand women go through for no damn reason. -- http://img.imgcake.com/SantaRPG/MAIZEpngdu.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seginustemple 02/23/12 12:07:00 PM #15: |
Oh I'm sure they're medically arbitrary reasons, maybe she shouldn't have arbitrarily got pregnant
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MoogleKupo141 02/23/12 12:09:00 PM #16: |
Seginustemple posted...
Oh I'm sure they're medically arbitrary reasons, maybe she shouldn't have arbitrarily got pregnant abortions aren't like... fun. you don't need to be punishing the lady -- For your SuperNiceDog. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 02/23/12 12:09:00 PM #17: |
I've had an ultrasound..... why would anyone object to them? o_o
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SlymDayspring 02/23/12 12:09:00 PM #18: |
They aren't forced to do anything. In VA if they want an abortion then they have to get an ultrasound.
Is it a law I agree with? not really. But nobody is forcing anything um...people are objecting only to the ultrasounds in the context of them being forced if you want an abortion. so yeah...it isn't a mandatory "everyone must do this" but the argument isn't "i am against ultrasounds" it is "i am against being forced to get an invasive vaginal ultrasound if I want an abortion" -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingButz 02/23/12 12:14:00 PM #19: |
From: SlymDayspring | #018 And I'm against having to take an unnecessary and expensive gun safety course in order to purchase a handgun! -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.png Ok everyone this is Bartz so just remember. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JeffreyRaze 02/23/12 12:19:00 PM #20: |
"I don't want to have to do something connected to something else" =/= "I don't want to have a piece of gear shoved deep up inside me despite doing so having absolutely zero connection to what I want to do"
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Viktor Vaughn 02/23/12 12:20:00 PM #21: |
From: KingButz | #019 okay??? who cares -- bad advice http://www.last.fm/user/snowcampsoldier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 02/23/12 12:26:00 PM #22: |
And I'm against having to take an unnecessary and expensive gun safety course in order to purchase a handgun!
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KingButz 02/23/12 12:28:00 PM #23: |
From: Viktor Vaughn | #021 yeah, who cares -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.png Ok everyone this is Bartz so just remember. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kinglicious 02/23/12 12:30:00 PM #24: |
'hi there, you're here to have an abortion? Sure, what were the circumstances? Oh you were raped and got pregnant. That is unfortunate. Now can you please spread your legs so I can insert this phallic object bigger than the average dick into you? No it has no purpose regarding the abortion you are having, it's so we can maybe get look at the baby you don't want. You don't have to see him though, we can't force that image upon you. Now open those legs so I can force this object inside of you. '
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CrimsonOcean 02/23/12 12:34:00 PM #25: |
If the chicks didn't want something shoved up their vag they should have thought about that before having sex.
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KingButz 02/23/12 12:35:00 PM #26: |
From: Kinglicious | #025 lol no rape exception. This is why I can't support abortion laws. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.png Ok everyone this is Bartz so just remember. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biolizard28 02/23/12 12:36:00 PM #27: |
From: Kinglicious | #025 Top tier pick up line. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin_Crossing 02/23/12 12:37:00 PM #28: |
From: GuessMyUserName | #017 GMUN keep in mind that we don't have to pay for ultrasounds -- ~Acting on Impulse~ Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XxSoulxX 02/23/12 12:38:00 PM #29: |
This point was brought up on Bill Maher last week. There's really no point to it other then embarrassing the woman. The ultrasound is a nicer way of saying "probing a woman's vagina". A lot of people say that that's fine, but if it comes to say... probing a guys ass if he gets an STD, a lot of opinions quickly change.
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ExThaNemesis 02/23/12 12:40:00 PM #30: |
itt: dudes who have no idea what an ultrasound is lmao
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Seginustemple 02/23/12 12:40:00 PM #31: |
Well if it's totally unnecessary that does make it hard to justify, unlike handgun safety training. I'm just sayin some of those abortion techniques seem pretty grotesque and invasive. I wouldn't be able to be an abortion doctor, that's for damn sure
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XxSoulxX 02/23/12 12:43:00 PM #32: |
Well if it's totally unnecessary that does make it hard to justify, unlike handgun safety training. I'm just sayin some of those abortion techniques seem pretty grotesque and invasive. I wouldn't be able to be an abortion doctor, that's for damn sure
Getting an abortion is a very tough thing to do. All those "invasive techniques" are still used to actually do the abortion, but before all that the woman has to get vaginally probed for no reason whatsoever. -- Thinking Luigi and WAAAA > Pokemon Trainers was dumb, and Pokemon rocks. In other news, Valve is a pretty f***ing terrible company, let's be honest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Viktor Vaughn 02/23/12 12:43:00 PM #33: |
From: KingButz | #023 probably somebody in a different conversation. so why don't you go have that conversation rather than bringing it up in a context in which it is not relevant to the issue that is being discussed -- bad advice http://www.last.fm/user/snowcampsoldier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 02/23/12 12:51:00 PM #34: |
KingButz kinda has a point. If the ultrasound was necessary to ensure a safe abortion then of course it should be mandatory.
You guys are talking like it's not though, which may be true. If not, then there is absolutely no reason for it. If is needed, then, well, the law has a purpose. -- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 02/23/12 12:53:00 PM #35: |
Why don't we just let the doctors decide?
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neonreaper 02/23/12 12:54:00 PM #36: |
CoolCly posted...
KingButz kinda has a point. If the ultrasound was necessary to ensure a safe abortion then of course it should be mandatory. You guys are talking like it's not though, which may be true. If not, then there is absolutely no reason for it. If is needed, then, well, the law has a purpose. it's not at all true. -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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neonreaper 02/23/12 12:58:00 PM #37: |
Seginustemple posted...
Well if it's totally unnecessary that does make it hard to justify, unlike handgun safety training. I'm just sayin some of those abortion techniques seem pretty grotesque and invasive. I wouldn't be able to be an abortion doctor, that's for damn sure the gun safety course is a stupid analogy, just ignore it -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CeraSeptem 02/23/12 1:00:00 PM #38: |
You guys are talking like it's not though, which may be true. If not, then there is absolutely no reason for it. If is needed, then, well, the law has a purpose.
There is no reason for this. Besides the fact that that is a medical fact, think of it this way. If it was an actually necessary procedure to get an abortion, then why the **** did it take 50 years for Virginia to pass the law to make sure that people get proper medical treatment, and further, how the hell would they manage to be AHEAD of every other state on the matter? I mean, really, Virginia? The answer is obvious: they are adding bull**** on top of the procedure in order to be dicks. -- I ****ing love to cuddle. I'm being oppressed! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kinglicious 02/23/12 1:02:00 PM #39: |
It has nothing to do with the abortion at all, no. It's to guilt trip the would be mom. The only reason it won't pass is because if it did the state would become Democrats.
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Master Epyon 02/23/12 1:06:00 PM #40: |
Ultrasounds should not be a required component prior to an abortion. A patient who doesn't want to undergo one should still be able to undergo an abortion, obviously.
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KingButz 02/23/12 1:26:00 PM #41: |
From: CeraSeptem | #038 Well I thought that everyone knew this. They can't make it illegal so they want to make it less desirable. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.png Ok everyone this is Bartz so just remember. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark Young Link 02/23/12 2:00:00 PM #42: |
CrimsonOcean posted...
If the chicks didn't want something shoved up their vag they should have thought about that before having sex. ^5 anyone? Anyone? ^5 Plus, and I'll admit I'm no expert on the matter, doesn't abortion involve having something uncomfortable shoved up there? -- You'll get what's coming to you Ulti, wait and see. - Takfloyd_mkII__ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leebo86 02/23/12 2:07:00 PM #43: |
The ultrasounds in the Virginia law are performed by vaginal probe, it's not the usual external belly kind.
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LOLContests 02/23/12 2:08:00 PM #44: |
And I'm against having to take an unnecessary and expensive gun safety course in order to purchase a handgun!
An ultrasound doesn't make the abortion safer, does it? For other people besides the woman? -- My bracket wasn't good enough to beat SuperNiceDog's in the GameFAQS Rivalry Rumble. Congrats! This is Yesmar. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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