Board 8 > Board 8 NHL Topic VII: Does anyone actually want the 3 and 8 seeds in the East?

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GTM
03/20/12 10:35:00 PM
#401:


frankly, most of the "plan the parade" people were people sarcastically saying it to us >_>;

but yeah our team sucks

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GrapefruitKing
03/21/12 9:59:00 AM
#402:


ah, I see the Sharks have finally found a way not to choke in the playoffs..... they're trying to miss the playoffs entirely
good job

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03/21/12 10:00:00 AM
#403:


From: GrapefruitKing | #402
ah, I see the Sharks have finally found a way not to choke in the playoffs..... they're trying to miss the playoffs entirely
good job


Hey, this was my comment about the Capitals a week or so ago!

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TheKnightOfNee
03/21/12 7:08:00 PM
#404:


Red Wings lose again!

I honestly can't remember the last game they won anymore.

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03/22/12 2:42:00 PM
#405:


Huge night tonight for the Western Conference. It's a good day to be a Colorado, Phoenix, or Calgary fan as they have the "easiest" games tonight. Colorado Vs. Phoenix and Calgary Vs. Minnesota. The other teams in the "Superb Six"© have some rough games coming up. Dallas Vs. Vancouver, Los Angeles Vs. St Louis, and San Jose Vs. Boston.

Fans of every team is hoping for a 2 point game in the Avs/Coyotes game, and they're obviously cheering for all other teams in the "Superb Six"© to lose outright.

Good news for Avs today. Doan is suspended, and won't be in tonight's game. Also some good news for Dallas is that Daniel Sedin is injured and most likely won't play tonight.

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ExThaNemesis
03/22/12 5:45:00 PM
#406:


Despite what's going on tonight, the Preds are probably the second least team I'd want the Pens to get in the SCF.

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 5:50:00 PM
#407:


It's really REALLY tough for me to take the Preds seriously.

Who exactly are their major offensive threats again? Martin Erat? Patric Hornqvist? Some Russian mafia dudes whose last name you can't write on GameFAQs?

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ExThaNemesis
03/22/12 5:53:00 PM
#408:


They have a goalie that's capable of stealing an entire series... that's pretty much all you need in the playoffs sometimes. I shouldn't have to point that out to you after Halak.

And I think they're just talented offensively enough to win off the strength of their goaltender.

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 5:57:00 PM
#409:


They have a goalie that's capable of stealing an entire series... that's pretty much all you need in the playoffs sometimes. I shouldn't have to point that out to you after Halak.

Oh yeah, totally, a great goalie can steal a series. Sometimes even two. RARELY three. But to actually win the cup you better have someone who can actually score.

And seriously, Rinne isn't THAT good. He's very good. Top tier. But he's not significantly better than the other guys up there to include Lundqvist, Fleury, Quick, and pre-crisis Thomas, hell even lolungo is just about as good.

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ExThaNemesis
03/22/12 5:59:00 PM
#410:


I wouldn't put Fleury on the same level as Henrik or PC Thomas. Fleury's solid and I love him, but he's not a game stealer I don't think. He plays behind a world class defense and offense.

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ExThaNemesis
03/22/12 6:01:00 PM
#411:


Is there a better offense in the NHL than Pittsburgh's? It feels like 5 goals is their average lately.

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 6:05:00 PM
#412:


From: ExThaNemesis | #411
Is there a better offense in the NHL than Pittsburgh's? It feels like 5 goals is their average lately.


Statistically, they're #1 with Boston and Philly close behind.

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03/22/12 6:08:00 PM
#413:


From: ExThaNemesis | #410
I wouldn't put Fleury on the same level as Henrik or PC Thomas. Fleury's solid and I love him, but he's not a game stealer I don't think. He plays behind a world class defense and offense.


Rinne plays behind two of the ten best defensemen in the league! And you were the one telling me that offense didn't matter!

I feel like Rinne gets way overrated because of the fact that he plays for an offensively inept team.

Edit: For other examples, look to Vokoun and Bryzgalov. Both of those guys were supposed to be GREAT if only they landed on a decent team. Then they did, and they weren't.

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ExThaNemesis
03/22/12 6:11:00 PM
#414:


From: SmartMuffin | #413
I feel like Rinne gets way overrated because of the fact that he plays for an offensively inept team.

Edit: For other examples, look to Vokoun and Bryzgalov. Both of those guys were supposed to be GREAT if only they landed on a decent team. Then they did, and they weren't.


This is a fair point, I guess. Bryz is starting to come good this season though.

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 6:16:00 PM
#415:


And yet, Mike Smith is having an even better year this year than Bryz did last year and it's not even close really.

You saw the same thing when Vokoun left Nashville. Rinne, previously unknown, came in and did even better. And then when Vokoun left Florida, well, I don't have the numbers handy, but they're certainly a better team this year with Theodore and the Caps are worse with him (although it's not REALLY his fault).

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ExThaNemesis
03/22/12 6:25:00 PM
#416:


gonna be three point game in Philly tonight, too.

As someone that wants the Flyers to lose but the Sabres to make the playoffs, I am angered by this.

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ESY16
03/22/12 9:32:00 PM
#417:


As the board's resident Nashville/Rinne fan I feel the need to chime in. I'll simply say that if I'm given an NHL team and the opportunity to have any goalie in the world play for it then I pick either Rinne or Lundqvist. Rinne plays behind the best top D pairing in the league but he's still a beast. Assuming Finland isn't moronic again and decides that having Rinne on their team would be a good idea then it will be interesting to see how he performs in 2014 assuming NHL players are involved.

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 9:48:00 PM
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Well, given the age and raw talent, I'd say that's fairly reasonable. I'd throw out Quick, Halak, and yes, even Luongo as reasonable alternatives though.

The thing with Rinne is that I think he actually underachieves his talent. Given the defensive team he plays behind, there's really no excuse for him not having the best ratios in the league, and he never has. In recent years hes been shown up by the likes of Thomas and Luongo, and this year he's gonna get smoked by the Blues goalies and Quick and Lundqvist.

In order to be considered a candidate for "best goalie in the league" shouldn't he actually be the best goalie in the league at least one year?

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GrapefruitKing
03/22/12 10:15:00 PM
#419:


hell yeah Kings

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 10:16:00 PM
#420:




One of the most entertaining scoreless ties I've ever seen! You shootout apologists are nuts, the shootout was the least exciting part of that game.

Always nice to have a winning record against the best team in the conference. Absolutely not afraid of a 1-8 matchup against St. Louis. In fact, I'd rather have that then a 2-7 against Vancouver or even a 3-6 against Nashville/Chicago/Detroit.

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ShadowHalo17
03/22/12 10:50:00 PM
#421:


Screw the Kings.

If Andy McDonald wasn't out right now we would have won.

I have been impressed with Schwartz though. Glad we got him. He's gonna be damn good once he has more experience.

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SmartMuffin
03/23/12 6:42:00 AM
#422:


So, let's talk about Quick for a second.

This guy is almost certainly the most underrated player in the league. You can EASILY make the argument that he's been the best goalie in the entire league over the last three years, but he NEVER gets the credit he deserves and it's absolutely outrageous. Every year in the pre-season, the team previews for the Kings read the exact same: "Well sure, Quick did pretty good last year, but THIS YEAR the Kings will obviously look to give Bernier more games because he's the future!" And they usually TRY to do just that, until it is made glaringly obvious to everyone who actually watches.... that Quick is just plain BETTER than Bernier. Period. It's not that Bernier isn't ready and needs more time to develop. He's just plain not as good. I don't know WHY the hockey media refuses to accept this. Maybe it's a Canadian/American thing? Maybe it's because Bernier was a hyped prospect and Quick sorta came outta nowhere? Maybe it's because most of them are on the east coast and never stay up for Pacific division games?

Whatever it is, it's idiotic. They should absolutely trade Bernier while everyone still stupidly thinks this guy is the second coming of Martin Brodeur. They will almost certainly get more for him than he's worth no matter WHO they deal him to. Quick has had three absolutely outstanding years and seems to still be getting better. And yet, he remains the Rodney Dangerfield of the NHL...

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ExThaNemesis
03/23/12 7:57:00 AM
#423:


As someone that had Quick on his fantasy team last year and won his league, I agree whole-heartedly. He's one of the best GKs in the league and if the Kings are seriously acting like he's just Bernier's stand-in then there's something very wrong with them.

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GrapefruitKing
03/23/12 9:08:00 AM
#424:


I think Quick is actually the first player I picked up in fantasy this year

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voltch
03/23/12 9:42:00 AM
#425:


Wow, can't believe that as things stand I'm heading towards the Fantasy finals.

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TheOceIot
03/23/12 9:54:00 AM
#426:


Ever since I took Quick two years ago on my fantasy team I've loved the guy and thought he was underrated. This season though, I think people are starting to finally realize just how good he is.

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sonten1
03/23/12 10:19:00 AM
#427:


Some Russian mafia dudes whose last name you can't write on GameFAQs

What do you got against the Kostitsyn bros

also Nashville got Radulov back so crown their asses

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TheOceIot
03/23/12 11:05:00 AM
#428:


Crown their asses? They got wrecked by the Pens last night!

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Not Dave
03/23/12 12:19:00 PM
#429:


Quick is the best. I've also had him on my fantasy team the last two years, and snagged him in both leagues this year.

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SmartMuffin
03/23/12 2:48:00 PM
#430:


From: ExThaNemesis | #423
As someone that had Quick on his fantasy team last year and won his league, I agree whole-heartedly. He's one of the best GKs in the league and if the Kings are seriously acting like he's just Bernier's stand-in then there's something very wrong with them.


The Kings aren't doing that, but the hockey media acts like they should be. Seriously, write it down right now. Remember I said this. Before next season starts, go to all the hockey websites and read their "team previews" and I guarantee you EVERY site for their Kings preview will mention something about Bernier getting more playing time because they need to groom him to be ready to become the full-time starter. Every. Last. One.

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Not Dave
03/23/12 3:14:00 PM
#431:


Keith got five games.

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TheOceIot
03/23/12 3:41:00 PM
#432:


Seems about right. Wonder how long Sedin will be out for.

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SmartMuffin
03/23/12 3:44:00 PM
#433:


http://deadspin.com/5895776/hornets-fans-gave-jason-smith-a-standing-ovation-after-his-ejection-for-this-kill-shot-on-blake-griffin

This guy totally should have been a hockey player.

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voltch
03/23/12 4:16:00 PM
#434:


I wanted Quick and Howard so bad this year in fantasy, oh well at least I got one of them.

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SmartMuffin
03/23/12 4:17:00 PM
#435:


This year I had Thomas, Rask, Quick, and Smith. Amazing goalie draft. And yet, I'm third in wins and second in GAA.

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RappinHobo9292
03/23/12 4:46:00 PM
#436:


It's decided. Ottawa isn't making the playoffs.

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GrapefruitKing
03/23/12 4:58:00 PM
#437:


LOL Sens
they'll still make the playoffs but they can forget the top of the Northeast Div

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voltch
03/23/12 5:07:00 PM
#438:


Cmon P.K Subban! I traded Shea Weber for you!

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SmartMuffin
03/23/12 5:16:00 PM
#439:


OV has remembered how to score.

Come on Pittsburgh. Go right ahead and take that #1 seed. I dare you.

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TheOceIot
03/23/12 6:43:00 PM
#440:


xfd caps

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GrapefruitKing
03/23/12 6:43:00 PM
#441:


F*** YEAH JETS

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SmartMuffin
03/23/12 7:05:00 PM
#442:


you know

as pissed as I am at the caps right now

I am even more mad at the rangers

tanking on purpose to avoid us, I say

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voltch
03/23/12 7:47:00 PM
#443:


Oh wow, all dem penalty minutes in the Sens/Canadians game.

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Not Dave
03/24/12 8:41:00 AM
#444:


augh Sens

need to go at least 4-3 or so to make the playoffs. my confidence is pretty low right now.

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GrapefruitKing
03/24/12 8:49:00 AM
#445:


SPOILERS

Final East Rankings will go like this

1 Penguins
2 Bruins
3 Panthers
4 Rangers
5 Flyers
6 Devils
7 Senators
8 Sabres
9 Capitals
10 Jets
11 Hurricanes
12 Lightning
13 Leafs
14 Islanders
15 Canadiens

BOOK IT

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baron von toast
03/24/12 4:04:00 PM
#446:


So the Dodge Ram is a sponsor for the Wings, and yesterday I hear this commercial on the radio about how the Ram is a road warrior and can go anywhere and be awesome, just the like the Red Wings!!1

About that...

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RappinHobo9292
03/24/12 4:19:00 PM
#447:


Why can't we stick with Lydon Slewidge for anthems?

Watching almost all of the players laugh during that was ****ing hilarious.

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03/24/12 4:46:00 PM
#448:




Here's the video

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03/24/12 6:38:00 PM
#449:


this has been a fantastic game so far.

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RappinHobo9292
03/24/12 6:45:00 PM
#450:


That last goal was absolute sex.

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