Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 38 - "Did you fall down and go boom?"

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Silver_Ermine
04/02/12 9:22:00 PM
#451:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
From: Silver_Ermine | #449
Ermine > people who let ermine kill them a bunch
fixed ^_^


I killed you a bunch FD.

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TheConductorSix
04/02/12 9:50:00 PM
#452:


Yorick+Blue Buff=Funny

Fun stuff In House. Gotta do that again.

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Mega Mana
04/02/12 9:52:00 PM
#453:


How were the games. Couldn't get in to spectate.

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TheConductorSix
04/02/12 10:07:00 PM
#454:


First came Ermine's Ziggs got fed mid and just snowballed. Not much to say

2nd game Ermine did roam Twitch and we stole the enemies blue buff then udyr donated Yorick blue buff and then Ermine just roamed and pressured every lane.

The problem with In-Houses is that either Ermine or FD is going to kinda snowball.

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AfroSquirrel
04/02/12 10:42:00 PM
#455:


Playing champs with 90-120s ults really makes me appreciate 40s FF. New Lux build order!

Shoes and Hpots -> Sorc Boots/2x Dorans -> Rod of Ages -> Deathcap -> Depends on enemies: If building MR Guise + Void Staff. If overly cautious, Archangels (and if really cautious Rylai's). If any other situation, Soulstealer and Hourglass.

I'd like to put Soulstealer earlier, but until teamfights start happening it's not worth the slot, it seems.

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Gwindor
04/02/12 11:01:00 PM
#456:


personally, I go CDR boots -> Evil Tome -> deathcap

With masteries, that gets you to 39% CDR.

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HanOfTheNekos
04/02/12 11:16:00 PM
#457:


I like getting blue buff as Lux. Dat CDR.

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AfroSquirrel
04/02/12 11:23:00 PM
#458:


From: Gwindor | #456
personally, I go CDR boots -> Evil Tome -> deathcap

With masteries, that gets you to 39% CDR.


That's what I used to do. But I think that a much heavier 40s FF is better than a weaker 26s FF, especially given the average length of teamfights at my level. The same philosophy extends to the rest of her skills, especially Singularity with the buff to its utility role (+1s CD is completely eclipsed by the timer starting from 'landing' rather than detonation).

EDIT: And of course grab blue whenever you can. But CDR items also lead to a need for mana items, like an early tear.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/02/12 11:35:00 PM
#459:


Red/FD DuoQ:

http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

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Lopen
04/02/12 11:40:00 PM
#460:


Deathcap with Lux seems kinda counterproductive given it has no range whatsoever and Lux's whole point is to be roughly 43 screens away from the fight and still be blasting people

Oh wait you said deathcap not deathfire never mind <_<

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AfroSquirrel
04/03/12 12:49:00 AM
#461:


From: Lopen | #460
Deathcap with Lux seems kinda counterproductive given it has no range whatsoever and Lux's whole point is to be roughly 43 screens away from the fight and still be blasting people

Oh wait you said deathcap not deathfire never mind <_<


On the topic of range, though, I'm trying to decide whether or not I like Ignite. That true damage is always desirable, and the range syncs up with an autoattack to trigger Lux's passive, but in the teamfight stage it gets pretty dangerous. Ghost can be a handy escape, and Teleport can result in some wonderful laser hotdrops, but I'm still undecided.

Flash is a definite choice, though.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/03/12 1:02:00 AM
#462:


http://www.twitch.tv/red13n

Red/FD Still playing dat DuoQ. 2-0 tonight so far.

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TheConductorSix
04/03/12 1:20:00 AM
#463:


We ended the night pretty amazingly.

Double Jungle with Spike and Sytha on Nocturne and Shyvana. I went Solo Top with Katarina against Gangplank.

Little Lesson for anyone playing As/Against Gangplank: Don't spam your Q at level 1. You don't have the mana to sustain it and it doesn't do much damage. Use it to farm.

Basically we trade Qs and ran out of pots. But he was out of mana and I was fine. Hit 6, ulted, he couldn't W, GG.



Second game Sytha learned just how stupid AD Nidalee is and he had 350 CS while the rest of us had 200. It was a "protect Koggie Game" with Spike as AP Koggie.

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SpikeDragon
04/03/12 1:29:00 AM
#464:


Amen. Good way to end the night. I like how we didn't even originally plan to have double junglers, but we tried it out anyways and it worked suprisingly well.

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SythaWarrior
04/03/12 1:31:00 AM
#465:


Because we counterjungled early then camped bottom till the Cho Gath could stomp 3v1 if he had to.

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Spark Mandrill
04/03/12 6:50:00 AM
#466:


GP still has some dumb elements in his kit but the Q mana cost nerfs hurt like a bastard.

Not that I'm complaining, but I have learned to appreciate seemingly minor changes like that.

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Gwindor
04/03/12 8:37:00 AM
#467:


If you're getting RoA, then don't start out with dorans. Build a catalyst for lane.

Also, your build has 35 more AP on it than mine, after RoA is fully stacked. It also costs 1635 more gold. I could buy a NLR for that and I guarantee I'll be doing more damage than you. You're basically buying a lot of health and mana, which may fit your play style more.

If you really just want more early damage you could try Haunting Guise instead of RoA. I'd say Abyssal scepter, but it's aura's range is only 1/3 of your ult. You can also straight up rush deathcap. Nothing wrong with that.

The problem I see with Lux's that don't build CDR is that they try and save her ult for picking off runners. Saving her ult really lowers her damage potential.

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AfroSquirrel
04/03/12 8:49:00 AM
#468:


One day, Haunting Guise will build into something... it might be unexpected enough to start a snowball, though.

And the extra health in particular is useful, since I'm not queuing with people I can coordinate well with yet.

And like I was saying earlier, even with 40s (30s with blue?), you can open with an FF and still have it ready as a finisher most of the time.

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Luis_Sera89
04/03/12 9:03:00 AM
#469:


You don't want to be bothering with health on Lux. You want to be going full AP.

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AfroSquirrel
04/03/12 10:04:00 AM
#470:


From: Luis_Sera89 | #469
You don't want to be bothering with health on Lux. You want to be going full AP.


When I have a coherent team, this is true. But that extra health from RoA has saved me more than a few times in the past few games.

Most recent game had two highlights: Me making about 14 of the teams 33 kills (and 12 assists), and the enemy Xerath going 0/5/3 but nonetheless buying a Soulstealer. Optimism!

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MUKMASTER2
04/03/12 10:51:00 AM
#471:


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62439299

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Lopen
04/03/12 12:19:00 PM
#472:


Oh I didn't even see RoA. Yeah don't get that. Even if your team sucks if you're needing RoA HP you're doing it wrong because your team sucking shouldn't have much bearing on you being in a position that you can't get hit.

Hell your team might be sucking because they've got a Lux way to the side who's not outputting nearly enough damage to justify taking a character slot on a character who's not going to take much of the teamfight damage yet still has 2500 hp.

If you have people charging you a lot just go Flash + Ghost and feel safer not having the RoA. If you're going for a damage summoner I think surge might be worth consideration over ignite for lux just because you don't need to get close to use it (and with all the aoe on her spells it might add more damage overall)

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KommunistKoala
04/03/12 1:49:00 PM
#473:


Lux should not take ignite. you don't want to be getting that close for any reason

Flash and either Ghost/Teleport/or even cv to perfectly shoot your lasers is what I'd use

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AfroSquirrel
04/03/12 2:22:00 PM
#474:


I asked about CV for Lux earlier, but was told not to take it because it's a big I AM SHOOTING YOU WITH MY LASER sign to your target.

Also, how does MPen work? Is it simply MR - Mpen = Effective MR?

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KommunistKoala
04/03/12 2:43:00 PM
#475:


AfroSquirrel posted...
I asked about CV for Lux earlier, but was told not to take it because it's a big I AM SHOOTING YOU WITH MY LASER sign to your target.

Also, how does MPen work? Is it simply MR - Mpen = Effective MR?


Against skilled players, maybe

I've seen plenty of players not move an inch though. People just forget they're facing a Lux and that she'll do that to you

But Teleport or Ghost is what I would take most of the time (with Flash)

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Gwindor
04/03/12 2:52:00 PM
#476:


http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_penetration

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AfroSquirrel
04/03/12 3:00:00 PM
#477:


From: Gwindor | #476
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_penetration


Huh, that's good to know. I thought Void Staff only increased your own MPen by 40%, not penetrated by 40%.

EDIT: Also, stackind MPen runes now seems like a really good idea if MR can go negative.

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Gwindor
04/03/12 3:05:00 PM
#478:


MR cannot go negative from MPen. Only MR reduction can lower MR below 0. This really only happens in certain situations, like being fiddlesticks with soraka and you have abyssal scepter.

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TheConductorSix
04/03/12 4:47:00 PM
#479:


Lux should always take teleport. Her ability to show up bottom and one shot anyone is huge. If not teleport then Ghost. Lux should never die more than twice.

If you go haunting guise for the early game burst with sorc pen boots then you better kill. You have to.

Doran Doran Deathcap is really all you need.

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AlphaRayAllen
04/03/12 5:00:00 PM
#480:


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-sneak-peek-hecarim-shadow-war

We have Pale Riders.

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ZaziGuado
04/03/12 5:02:00 PM
#481:


Centaur yesssssss

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VincentLauw
04/04/12 4:11:00 PM
#482:


just played a game with sona and had the highest amount of gold on my team, lost superhard


I think I'm done for today

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