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Chronic1000
03/25/12 8:59:00 AM
#351:


I can understand the time constraint cautions. They don't want a Halloween Havoc '98 situation on their hands.

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JaKyL25
03/25/12 9:04:00 AM
#352:


From: Chronic1000 | #351
They don't want a Halloween Havoc '98 situation on their hands.


Just like "pulling an Ultimate Warrior," that can mean so many things.... <_<

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Chronic1000
03/25/12 9:08:00 AM
#353:


Right. Forgot that Halloween Havoc '98 is remembered for more than one thing >_>.

Basically, they don't want the PPV to go over the time limit, since PPV providers only provide a certain amount of time for the show. If it goes over, then the feed gets cut off, and we are stuck not knowing what happened.

Though now that I think about it, didn't WCW actually broadcast the Goldberg/DDP match on ESPN or CNN right after the PPV was cut off? I seem to recall actually watching that match on that channel.

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EmDubyaSee
03/25/12 9:09:00 AM
#354:


From: Jakyl25 | #350
Oh please, it's only the 4th best match of 1996 WWF!

It would have been SO much better to just let them go out there and work as long as they wanted to and just have it end in a pinfall whenever they organically got there. There's absolutely no need to protect Bret with the time limit thing. Yeah I know he probably demanded it but **** that.

EDIT: Although to say something more positive about it, it was the best WM main event ever until X-Seven.




So, it was the culmination of a 2 year journey, and that was the only way to put over Shawn like they did. Have him end in the Sharpshooter for over a minute without tapping, they can't do that in a normal match. But with the hour long time limit they could. It gave Shawn this aura, and then when he hits double SCM, BANG. No build up in Wrestling history has ever been capped like that was, none of them. It was the perfect match for what it was.

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JaKyL25
03/25/12 9:19:00 AM
#355:


From: Chronic1000 | #353
Though now that I think about it, didn't WCW actually broadcast the Goldberg/DDP match on ESPN or CNN right after the PPV was cut off? I seem to recall actually watching that match on that channel.


On Nitro the next night.

CNN? WHAT?

That's a slow news night with like a week to go until midterm elections!

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JaKyL25
03/25/12 9:21:00 AM
#356:


"We interrupt this important coverage of global natural disasters to bring you Goldberg vs. "Diamond" Dallas Page."

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Chronic1000
03/25/12 10:35:00 AM
#357:


I remember them informing the audience that they were going to switch to another network to play the final match of the PPV. It might not have been CNN, but ESPN at least.

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GTM
03/25/12 11:28:00 AM
#358:


As much as I'd like Bryan to win, Sheamus is going to win in a rushed match due to Royal Rumble stats.

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edwardsdv
03/25/12 1:14:00 PM
#359:


Yeah in not expecting Owen/skinner. But I am expecting something close

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Rad Link 5
03/25/12 1:15:00 PM
#360:


From: Jakyl25 | #356
"We interrupt this important coverage of global natural disasters to bring you Goldberg vs. "Diamond" Dallas Page."


Now-a-days it'd be more like

"We interrupt our partisan bickering over what color tie Mitt Romney was wearing to bring you Triple H vs The Undertaker, already in progress."

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03/25/12 1:22:00 PM
#361:


"We interrupt our partisan bickering over what color tie Mitt Romney was wearing to bring you Snooki in a wrestling match already in progress."

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PepsiPlunge
03/25/12 1:39:00 PM
#362:


the sort of stalling for time not seen since the Bret vs. Shawn Iron Man match (yeah I said it).

Well thank goodness someone else acknowledges this!

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03/25/12 2:04:00 PM
#363:


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Rad Link 5
03/25/12 2:09:00 PM
#364:


Physical hail.

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JaKyL25
03/25/12 5:34:00 PM
#365:


- WWE's latest business figures include a preliminary estimate buyrate for the Elimination Chamber PPV. The figures estimate the buys at 180,000, down from 199,000 in 2011 and 285,000 in 2010.

Either they actually follow through with WWE Network and change the PPV model, or else SOMETHING drastic is going to have to be done within the next couple years. This is getting alarming.

EDIT: Or they can just blame The Miz.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/25/12 5:39:00 PM
#366:


I was actually going to buy Elimination Chamber.

But then I saw Miz was on the show.

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TheRock1525
03/25/12 5:40:00 PM
#367:


I remember when everyone used to love The Miz.

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edwardsdv
03/25/12 5:44:00 PM
#368:


I STILL love the MIz, and I feel its sad he has been booked in a 3-4 months losing streak in which e only wrestles like 5-8 minute matches kind of depressing.

The boy needs a face turn in the worst way or SOMETHING

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JaKyL25
03/25/12 5:44:00 PM
#369:


The funny thing is that even with all these drops, their literal goal with Wrestlemania is to "break the all-time wrestling buyrate record (currently held by Wrestlemania 23)."

They are actually using 1,250,000 buys as the barometer as to whether the show was a success or not.

I hope all these people that didn't buy the other PPVs have been saving up!

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TheRock1525
03/25/12 5:46:00 PM
#370:


Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if they were saving up for WM. I knew that's how I used to be when it came to buying PPVs. The last non-WM I bought was Summerslam 2002.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/25/12 5:46:00 PM
#371:


I think Miz's problem is that he was exposed after a while for the one trick promo pony he was, and then his ring work got stale and sloppy shortly after. So basically, no love is given to Miz until he quits sucking.

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Haguile
03/25/12 5:47:00 PM
#372:


*Finally got around to watching dvds he ordered some time ago*

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TheRock1525
03/25/12 5:48:00 PM
#373:


I'd still rather listen to a Miz promo than a Randy Orton promo.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/25/12 5:50:00 PM
#374:


BUT I WILL WIN MY MATCH.

AND MY NAME IS RANDY ORTON.

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JaKyL25
03/25/12 5:50:00 PM
#375:


From: Haguile | #372
*Finally got around to watching dvds he ordered some time ago*

Goddamit how have I been living for this long without Chikara in my life?


Which ones did you order?

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TheRock1525
03/25/12 5:54:00 PM
#376:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
BUT I WILL WIN MY MATCH.

AND MY NAME IS RANDY ORTON.


Literally one of the top faces in the company right now.

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Haguile
03/25/12 5:54:00 PM
#377:


From: Jakyl25 | Posted: 3/25/2012 8:50:52 PM | #375
Which ones did you order?


Way more than I should have >_> don't remember the exact names but I can check it later.

The one I just finished watching was a king of trios one(not sure on the year). Every single goddamn little thing about this is making me smile. The wrestling, the comedy, the...characters, the commentary, just about everything!
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JaKyL25
03/25/12 5:56:00 PM
#378:


From: TheRock1525 | #376
BUT I WILL WIN MY MATCH.

AND MY NAME IS RANDY ORTON.

Literally one of the top faces in the company right now.


Still 1,000,000x better than that empty-arena Cena promo

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edwardsdv
03/25/12 6:00:00 PM
#379:


From: TheRock1525 | #370
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if they were saving up for WM. I knew that's how I used to be when it came to buying PPVs. The last non-WM I bought was Summerslam 2002.


On the other hand, i tend to buy the smaller pPVs where guys I like are built up for the card.

For instance I think I bought Hell in a cell in 2010 for Barrett/Cena and Sheamus/Orton

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TheRock1525
03/25/12 6:01:00 PM
#380:


Understand that I'm the "average" fan and you're the "hardcore" fan.

The average fans always show up for WM, it's why it easily outdoes every PPV on the year.

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edwardsdv
03/25/12 6:08:00 PM
#381:


right thats kinda what I mean. I know I cant afford to go all Jakyl and buy everything and I know guys like you will always buy mania and Rumble and maybe even summerslam.

So to make my buys matter I do it that way is all.

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Rad Link 5
03/25/12 6:11:00 PM
#382:


I can't imagine buying a pay-per-view where the participants for the two biggest matches are Triple H, Undertaker, John Cena, and The Rock.

There is not a single way to book those four into two main event matches that I would be satisfied with. The only one in that group I'd want to see wrestle Undertaker would be John Cena, and then that would leave Triple H facing The Rock.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/25/12 6:12:00 PM
#383:


From: Jakyl25 | #378
Still 1,000,000x better than that empty-arena Cena promo


lmfao That promo was abysmal. Thanks for reminding me of it.

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TheRock1525
03/25/12 6:12:00 PM
#384:


Rad Link 5 posted...
I can't imagine buying a pay-per-view where the participants for the two biggest matches are Triple H, Undertaker, John Cena, and The Rock.

Take out John Cena and you've got most of my late 90's early 2000's purchases >_>

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Rad Link 5
03/25/12 6:14:00 PM
#385:


That's the problem!

These are people I'd pay to see a decade+ ago!

Two-thirds of that group needs to catch their breath just coming out to the ring now!

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JaKyL25
03/25/12 6:14:00 PM
#386:


Speaking of The Miz, I had no idea this was happening, but after jobbing to Zack Ryder last weekend on house shows, on this weekend's house shows he's been getting squashed by Brodus Clay.

I think we need to rename the Punkhouse into the Mizhouse.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/25/12 6:15:00 PM
#387:


I hope that John Cena loses at Wrestlemania, because then, according to him, I WILL NEVER REMEMBER HIM.

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TheRock1525
03/25/12 6:16:00 PM
#388:


I'd pay to see The Rock a decade ago.

I'll pay to see The Rock next Sunday.

I'll pay to see The Rock a decade from now.

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edwardsdv
03/25/12 6:19:00 PM
#389:


Honestly Triple H and The Rock could have a story REMARKABLY similar to both of the builds the two main events we DO have are getting. Rock comes back and is pissed that wrestling isnt as good now, only instead of blaming the face ofthe company(Cena), he goes after the new boss (Triple H).

He goads Trips into trying to make everything better through the year and constantly berates him with how hes not good enough, nothing he does can even COMPARE to when he and Trips were the topdogs (Austin doesnt exist in kayfabe during this) and he challenges Trips to a match at Mania to remind him of what GOOD wrestling programs look like. Trips tries to refuse by playing heel to the crowd ( for being a coward) yet face to the smarks saying this shouldn't be about Trips and Rock, for the good of the future of the company which HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, Punk and Jericho need to be the stars not he and Rock.

Rock calls him a coward and...actually with no HBK im not sure what the catalyst for Trips finally accepting would be. Point is this actually sounds like a better year long build than Cena/Rock and a better old-timers match than Taker/Trips by using the best of both builds.

EDIT: sadly the build here practically requires Rock to return as an authority figure which just isnt possible.

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JaKyL25
03/25/12 6:19:00 PM
#390:


From: edwardsdv | #389
Rock calls him a coward and...actually with no HBK im not sure what the catalyst for Trips finally accepting would be


Rock calls Triple H a Kung Pao B****.

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Rad Link 5
03/25/12 6:22:00 PM
#391:


From: edwardsdv | #389
through the year


It falls apart here, because The Rock is very busy making movies.

And honestly I just don't want The Rock wrestling Triple H in his current state. That's a complete waste of The Rock having another match. John Cena's not exactly my dream opponent for Rock either, but...

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Rad Link 5
03/25/12 6:23:00 PM
#392:


From: Jakyl25 | #390
From: edwardsdv | #389
Rock calls him a coward and...actually with no HBK im not sure what the catalyst for Trips finally accepting would be

Rock calls Triple H a Kung Pao B****.


I can't stop laughing

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edwardsdv
03/25/12 6:24:00 PM
#393:


From: Rad Link 5 | #391
It falls apart here, because The Rock is very busy making movies.

And honestly I just don't want The Rock wrestling Triple H in his current state. That's a complete waste of The Rock having another match. John Cena's not exactly my dream opponent for Rock either, but...


He did a few promos VIA SATELLITE, and really thats all it would take to crap on Triple H's parade periodically.

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TheRock1525
03/25/12 6:26:00 PM
#394:


Rock was the anonymous GM.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/25/12 6:27:00 PM
#395:


The Rock hates Bret Hart!?

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Haguile
03/25/12 6:29:00 PM
#396:


https://twitter.com/#!/realMickFoley/status/184079839823806464

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JaKyL25
03/25/12 6:30:00 PM
#397:


Bret Hart @BretHart
I have a lot of respect for The Rock, but I'd be more than happy 2 teach him how to put the sharpshooter on correctly

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TheRock1525
03/25/12 6:30:00 PM
#398:


Wants to know how when he was commissioner he never made that many tag matches.

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Rad Link 5
03/25/12 6:30:00 PM
#399:


Good god Team Teddy looks atrocious from a kayfabe standpoint.

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SmartMuffin
03/25/12 6:31:00 PM
#400:


im officially predicting that someone on team teddy will turn heel

possibly zack ryder

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