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Erugios
04/14/12 9:43:00 PM
#151:


Unicorn is so good that it's sales can carry AGE.

So happy, we'll actually get to see all of Kio's arc I think!

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GranzonEx
04/15/12 8:40:00 AM
#152:


Macross ep 17

Interesting... recap?

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GranzonEx
04/15/12 9:23:00 AM
#153:


Macross ep 18

Welp all the signs were there :(

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frankftw
04/15/12 9:24:00 AM
#154:


That was the one I was talking about earlier. It's a pretty creative way to reuse animation. The absurdity of some of the scenes were hilarious too.

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GranzonEx
04/15/12 9:27:00 AM
#155:


That's for sure. Loved the way they reused the marriage scene. And dat Zero-G Love.

But damn. No more broing up :(

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frankftw
04/15/12 9:47:00 AM
#156:


From: GranzonEx | #155
But damn. No more broing up :(


I know; it was so sad. Pineapple curse worst curse.

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GranzonEx
04/15/12 1:21:00 PM
#157:


Gundam AGE 27

Will Ansem be able to stop The Heart from crashing his ship onto the Earth? Will Wing Zero make it in time to destroy the reactor?

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Erugios
04/15/12 8:55:00 PM
#158:


Haven't been able to watch the newest AGE on account of re-arranging my room all day so I can put in a new desk. Will get to it soon though (I hope :()

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GranzonEx
04/15/12 9:28:00 PM
#159:


Macross ep 26

Welp they're ****ed.

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frankftw
04/15/12 9:54:00 PM
#160:


Heh how'd you like Exsedol singing? And you're really burning through these eps.

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Erugios
04/16/12 4:23:00 AM
#161:


AGE 27 spoilers




Pretty awesome episode. So much plot activity, and a lot of deaths on all sides.

First off: Me and Granzon were talking about this the other day. We totally thought Obright was going to buy it this episode. However, the moment Remi volunteered to go fix the cannon, I knew that we had misread the death flag. It was her we should have been worried about. Poor Obright :(

Secondly: Are there any Magicians 8 left? I lost track, but I THINK they all died

Thirdly: Is Zehart dead? I couldn't tell if he was going to burn up in the atmosphere, or if Dole had somehow rescued him last minute. I guess we'll find out soon. Or maybe they'll leave it ambiguous until halfway through the Kio arc?

End Spoilers

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GranzonEx
04/16/12 8:07:00 AM
#162:


Macross 27-29

That would have been a fine ending at 27. I'm not sure what they are trying to go for with Kamjin right now, it surely can't stop 27's conclusion.

And man Kaifun is a dick. I hope he gets what's coming to him... but I doubt it. Very few dicks in anime get punished accordingly :(

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Erugios
04/16/12 7:33:00 PM
#163:


I noticed a mobile suit I haven't seen before in yesterday's AGE. It looked similar to an Adele, but it had shoulder cannons, like a Guncannon would. Any idea what its called

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Erugios
04/16/12 8:55:00 PM
#164:


So they finally decided to have Le Klueze do something, and it ended up being kind of lame. Him and Mwa are clones, huh? Pretty weird. I wonder what the connection is to Fllay's dad is. Was he a clone too?

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GranzonEx
04/17/12 10:19:00 AM
#165:


Macross beated

That was a sweet ending. I'm glad Misa didn't get shafted, though hopefully Hikaru fixes that! I guess Minmay got what was coming to her, shame Kaifun didn't get vaporized :(

8/10 is the raw score
7/10 is the score adjusted for today's standards

I felt the ending would have been perfect at 27, they could have just switched that with episode 36 and this could easily be a 10/10 show.

And yes, Exedol singing was glorious!

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Erugios
04/17/12 4:30:00 PM
#166:


Going to watch any more Macross shows?

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frankftw
04/17/12 4:36:00 PM
#167:


From: GranzonEx | #165
I'm glad Misa didn't get shafted, though hopefully Hikaru fixes that!


instantrimshot.com

Now on to DYRL, right? external image

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GranzonEx
04/17/12 4:51:00 PM
#168:


Yes I want to remember love!

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WhiteLens
04/17/12 5:35:00 PM
#169:


From: GranzonEx | #165
8/10 is the raw score
7/10 is the score adjusted for today's standards


Why does that matter?
How much you like a show or think highly of it shouldn't matter at all based on how old it is.
Age should never play a factor on any kind of rating, if it still stands well on its own then that just goes to show what a good classic it is.

And speaking of age, I just saw AGE 27, man talk about a rather pointless unnecessary death followed by a hilarious strategic death.

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GranzonEx
04/17/12 6:48:00 PM
#170:


I agree, when a show is good, the age doesn't matter. But I've come to realize that shows from that time period tend to have recap episode, and monster of the week episodes to pad out their numbers. Many shows now are 12/24/50 length shows with no episodes wasted.

Like AGE for example, no recaps and arguably no filler/monster of the week episodes. I usually don't count animation quality against old shows, because they are probably cutting edge graphics for their time. I don't know, I strongly feel that filler episodes can ruin an otherwise masterpiece.

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Erugios
04/17/12 10:09:00 PM
#171:


GranzonEx posted...
I agree, when a show is good, the age doesn't matter. But I've come to realize that shows from that time period tend to have recap episode, and monster of the week episodes to pad out their numbers Many shows now are 12/24/50 length shows with no episodes wasted.

Like AGE for example, no recaps and arguably no filler/monster of the week episodes. I usually don't count animation quality against old shows, because they are probably cutting edge graphics for their time. I don't know, I strongly feel that filler episodes can ruin an otherwise masterpiece.


Didn't you point out that TGLL had filler episodes AND recap episodes? That is pretty recent. 00 and Seed also have recap episodes, and those are recent as well.

I can only speak for Gundam, but the older shows, such as the original, Z and ZZ did not have recap episodes. it was only until the mid 90s, with Gundam Wing that they started doing that.

Adaptations of shonen manga are notorious for doing this though,


As for Seed. Only 3 more episodes left, so I'll probably finish that show tomorrow. I should have known it would be Fllay that would screw things up again. Everyone who dies in this final battle, the blood will be on her hands.

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GranzonEx
04/18/12 5:44:00 AM
#173:


Yea there are some recent stuff that has recaps. TTGL is 27 episodes with one recap. But then you take a look at Gundam 00 or Code Geass. Solid 50 episodes with nothing wasted. I don't think I remember Zeta having recaps either! Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Very few shows I'm watching right now have recaps or fillers. Maybe that's why companies started to adapt the 12/24 model now instead of the 25/50 model. They take out the recap and make it a special episode that doesn't count towards the total. Still I feel if you need recaps and filler episodes to pad out a show then you might as well not make that episode to begin with.

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GranzonEx
04/18/12 7:54:00 AM
#174:


Do You Remember Love? beated

Excellent movie. Roy is a bro through and through. Kakizaki uh man that was even more brutal than in the the original!

I liked both versions of the story, but I liked the original's "triangle" better. I kept hoping the song would come from Minmay's heart, a song of longing for Hikaru's love. Misa is the champ in both so it's all good!

Something that irked me about the movie was how Milia just suddenly shrunk and Max got a suit just like hers in the final battle! But details like that doesn't really matter since it's a movie and they don't have the time a TV series has.

8/10

On to Flashback and Macross II soon!

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frankftw
04/18/12 8:02:00 AM
#175:


Yeah, there's a reason Kakizaki's VF colors are just the inverse of the default's. And when I saw that part for the first time I literally busted out laughing since my friend and I joke around about his ineptitude so much. But the scene itself is just built hilariously.

And recap eps were useful when the series was first airing in a time before you could look up episode synopses on the internet. I'm pretty sure I completely screwed up the tenses there, but you guys get the idea. Especially if it's been months since the first few episodes.

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GranzonEx
04/18/12 8:07:00 AM
#176:


Yep that's why I said "for its time". Now you can literally go online at any time and read up or watch the previous episode again. Back then there were no DVDs/etc for that.

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GranzonEx
04/18/12 10:57:00 AM
#177:


Aquarion EVOL 14

I love that remix of the original's OP that played during the end. SO DAMN GOOD.

Also YUNOHA WHY YOU SO CUTE?

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edwardsdv
04/18/12 11:02:00 AM
#178:


From: GranzonEx | #173
Yea there are some recent stuff that has recaps. TTGL is 27 episodes with one recap. But then you take a look at Gundam 00 or Code Geass. Solid 50 episodes with nothing wasted. I don't think I remember Zeta having recaps either! Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Very few shows I'm watching right now have recaps or fillers. Maybe that's why companies started to adapt the 12/24 model now instead of the 25/50 model. They take out the recap and make it a special episode that doesn't count towards the total. Still I feel if you need recaps and filler episodes to pad out a show then you might as well not make that episode to begin with.


The only acceptable way to do recaps is the Utena way.

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GranzonEx
04/18/12 11:23:00 AM
#179:


Aquarion EVOL 15

Kuso onna x 1000

Mikono NTRing Amata while Zessica sits on the sideline pining for Amata!

But DAT ED. Yunoha song the best.

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GranzonEx
04/18/12 11:50:00 AM
#180:


From: NioraptH | #172
Evol 16 beated SORTA SPOILERS

.... I will remember him too Yunoha.. T_T. He will always be in my memories

Anyway, lol the whole evol is backwards love thing is pretty obvious in this ep. I liked how they uh .. went back in time... Sorta... whatever.. and saw true love love in action.. or something... Sousei no Aquarion being used here was a nice touch too.

Not liking that Zessica has been reduced to I LOVE YOU AMATA mode kind of thing.. She used to be awesome... now she's just someone who's after Amata... T_T.. Though I did like her speech about overcoming fate or whatever

Also, more Amata angst.. urgh


I just beated the episode. I love the use of the original OP!

I'm glad Zessica actually came out and said it, now she will have no regrets.

These past few episodes have explained so much, I was ready to drop this show! But now that we've established Kagura as a weird guy that talks backwards... he's not so bad all of a sudden o_o

And gogogogogo Amata fight da powah!

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GranzonEx
04/18/12 12:00:00 PM
#182:


From: NioraptH | #181
I was ready to drop it because of a CERTAIN EVENT, but I stuck around because if there's one thing Evol doesn't disappoint in, it's their romance plot....


But but you didn't want to stay for Shrade? Or Mikage? Fudo? Andy >_>?

Mikage is the Kuja guy!

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SuperAngelo128
04/18/12 12:02:00 PM
#183:


I am gundam

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Erugios
04/18/12 12:57:00 PM
#185:


SuperAngelo128 posted...
I am gundam

I didn't like Setsuna at first, but he's kind of hilarious.

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GranzonEx
04/18/12 1:00:00 PM
#186:


From: NioraptH | #184
MY HAATO ONLY BELONGS TO JIN.


HIS HAATO ONLY BELONGS TO YUNOHA!! Or Mr. Froggy if he's into that >_>

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Erugios
04/18/12 10:19:00 PM
#188:


Gundam Seed is complete.

I have some mixed feelings on this one. The first part of the show, up until around Andrew was introduced, was pretty boring. And even after that it was still dreadful. So much J-drama bullcrap. Any scene with her really brought down the episode.

And why does she get the Newtype death of the series anyway? She's just a god damn normal person. Nothing Newtypeish about her in anyway. It's like they were going down a checklist of tropes and realized "oh crap, we forgot to have a Lalah death, let's just have Fllay do it"

The cast is probably the most boring in the franchise. Kira is an alright protagonist, but I'd rank him miles below pretty much everyone. Athrun is a bit more interesting, but his characterization shifts all the time. Pretty much the only characters I liked to any significant degree were Ramius, Mwu and Cagalli and Andrew. Badriguel also had some okay moments.

The villains:
I thought it was kind of pathetic that Athrun's dad was killed by some random dude. They probably did it just so that Athrun wouldn't have to commit patricide.

le Klueze. Probably the worst Char Clone in the franchise. He's barely even a Char clone, other than the fact he has a mask. I will say that his final duel with Kira was pretty sweet, but really, was there even a rivalry between them, up until like the final episode? He didn't do anything until the very end, and what he did do was pretty lame.

The mech designs were pretty good, but I wasn't a big fan of the federation's MSes. Too many Gundams as well (definitely the most in the franchise by a long shot).

So yeah, i wouldn't say Seed was "bad", but it is definitely on the shortlist of Gundam serieses I wouldn't consider good either.

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GranzonEx
04/19/12 10:57:00 AM
#189:


Flashback 2012 beated

Do You Remember Love is still my favorite song! Great music video episode thing though!

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GranzonEx
04/19/12 10:58:00 AM
#190:


Congrats on beating Seed

Hope you still have enough left in you to burn through Destiny :D

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frankftw
04/19/12 2:50:00 PM
#191:


From: Erugios | #188
definitely the most in the franchise by a long shot


More than G Gundam?!

From: GranzonEx | #189
Flashback 2012 beated


Aw yeah Macross II time, then glorious Fiyah Bombah.

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Erugios
04/20/12 10:34:00 AM
#192:


Starting Seed Destiny today!

The final stretch!

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Erugios
04/20/12 3:55:00 PM
#193:


Well, I will say this:

Seed Destiny is off to a better start than Seed was. But why does it have to start off with the villains doing another Gundamjacking? And why is there a le Klueze clone? Maybe it will be done better this time.

Shinn seems okay. His outburst at Cagalli was annoying, but well, considering his circumstances I understand where it came from. It's pretty weird that his sister was upset about losing her phone while they were evacuating. I've talked to refugees, people who have had to evacuate when crap was blowing up around them. The last thing on their mind is keeping personal property.

And I also like the fact that they don't even try to hide that they're piloting Zakus, though to be frank, they look more like Zaku IIIs than Zaku IIs.

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GranzonEx
04/20/12 3:58:00 PM
#194:


From: Erugios | #193
Seed Destiny is off to a better start than Seed was. But why does it have to start off with the villains doing another Gundamjacking? And why is there a le Klueze clone? Maybe it will be done better this time.


I direct you to Zeta.

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GranzonEx
04/21/12 8:56:00 AM
#195:


Macross II: Lovers Again 01

First things first. SCOUTERS.

Now back to finishing the episode >_>

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GranzonEx
04/21/12 10:10:00 AM
#196:


So far none of the songs in this are that good. I guess the 90s bring guitar into the whole song thing. Not my cup of tea tbh.

Wendy Ryder is no Lynn Minmay, but the Metal Siren is a sexy beast.

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GranzonEx
04/21/12 11:41:00 AM
#197:


Lovers Again beated.

That was weak. Weak characters. Weak story. Weak music. Weak love above all.

I sincerely hope the rest of the franchise isn't as disappointing as this.

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frankftw
04/21/12 12:03:00 PM
#198:


From: GranzonEx | #197
I sincerely hope the rest of the franchise isn't as disappointing as this.


Lovers Again: Electric Boogaloo is the only non-Nue production. On to Macross Prus? If so, watch the dub. The main character is voiced by Bryan Cranston.

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GranzonEx
04/21/12 12:18:00 PM
#199:


From: frankftw | #198
Lovers Again: Electric Boogaloo is the only non-Nue production. On to Macross Prus? If so, watch the dub. The main character is voiced by Bryan Cranston.


Thank God! You gave me peace of mind. And yes I will go to Plus today!

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edwardsdv
04/21/12 12:29:00 PM
#200:


Yeah theres a reason most everyone pretends Macross II didnt happen.

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